LeGOATski Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: It will be intetesting next season to see how McDermott calls games without Daboll. Continuity would be good and it seems like Josh has a significant input, sometimes even calling his own shots. That might require landing the right external hire or just promoting one of the current assistants. I think there will be a few good options, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 McD went from being pretty conservative, to just going for it, all the time. That fake punt shocked me, and the 4th down attempt early on was pretty aggressive. I think he feels more comfortable doing that w/ the offense we have. If the fake punt didn't work, he has more faith that we can come back and still make it a game. But it's great to see him adapt. He has had very few missteps this season. He has put together great gameplans, handled clock management well and made necessary adjustments all along the way. He's easily a top 10 coach in the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 This thread is not aging well for you OP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: That might be the most critical move next offseason. It's hard to tell who is the most influential in terms of the aggressive playcalling, Daboll, Allen or McDermott. I tend to put McDermott last on that list. If Allen is first then ok, but I kind think Daboll is the mastermind. Well, he still hasn't won a playoff game yet, so lets wait and see... That is Nick Wright thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Success said: McD went from being pretty conservative, to just going for it, all the time. That fake punt shocked me, and the 4th down attempt early on was pretty aggressive. I think he feels more comfortable doing that w/ the offense we have. If the fake punt didn't work, he has more faith that we can come back and still make it a game. But it's great to see him adapt. He has had very few missteps this season. He has put together great gameplans, handled clock management well and made necessary adjustments all along the way. He's easily a top 10 coach in the league. Indeed, Success, and Marv Levy was pretty conservative, too. How great was it to see a conservative "run and stop the run" coach, in his late 60s, along with his OC also in his late 60s at the time think outside of the box and their comfort zone to come up with the No Huddle that revolutionized* offense in the NFL and changed the fortune of their team for years to come? * yes, Cincy did it first, but the Bills made it work. Edited December 29, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 This thread didn't hold up well. Full disclosure: given what I feel will be a lengthy run this year, I was going to start a thread about what we Bills' fans got wrong in 2020. McD and the coaching staff will be at the top of my list -- regardless of the outcome of 2020 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Ok, it's agreed. I can extinguish the fire under the tar pot and put the bag of feathers back in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 11/30/2020 at 12:19 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Belichick Tomlin Vrabel Reid Payton Shanahan These are the best coaches in the NFL... They either have next-level smarts or an elite ability to motivate players to perform. McDermott is a solid playoff coach, but not a championship coach, I fear... So Bills fans are like, "We're 8-3! Enjoy it!" But I see a frustrating period of good-but-not-good-enough on the horizon for the foreseeable future. And that's depressing. I am absolutely not of the "Hey, it's Buffalo; at least we're winning" type of mentality. It's championships or nothing. That is the life goal. And with McDermott signing a long-term contract, I almost feel as hopeless as I would if we sucked. If we sucked, at least there would be hope of striking coaching gold on an imminent hire. In this case, though, I feel like we'll just be a solid playoff team for the next many years, but not elite enough to win it all. Can we get an update on this list 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 😂 Folks are going to keep bumping this thread for eternity, aren't they? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 As they should. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Ha. I enjoy this more than I should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I'm the only person on this board who's ever been wrong! ☺ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Where do y’all come up with this stuff? Vrabel and harbaugh were horrible today...terrible! Sorry didn’t realize someone bumped it I’m sure OP doesn’t feel this way anymore lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I'm the only person on this board who's ever been wrong! ☺ I mainly just hate vrabel so had to dig up that he was on this list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: 😂 Folks are going to keep bumping this thread for eternity, aren't they? You deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 11/30/2020 at 12:37 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Vrabel is a meathead. He inherited a playoff team. He then has two 9-7 seasons, and 1 playoff appearance. Yeah, the Titans won some playoff games last year, but I think the jury is still out on him being a great coach (or even a good one). If you recall, they couldn't fill their stadium for half the year, until they went on a late-season run. while we are bumping— Mr. Miyagi looking very wise. Very wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I mainly just hate vrabel so had to dig up that he was on this list Ugh, he is way overrated. I'm right there with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Not a fan of Vrabel. Shouldn’t have punted on 4th and 2 from the 40. Why are you paying Derrick Henry if not for that exact situation. As for McDermott. I’m pleasantly surprised we have a passing attack considering his rhetoric in first 3 seasons. I have an unprovable suspicion he’s the reason we are very conservative while backed up on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 McD can change. Remember when we loved fullbacks? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Not a fan of Vrabel. Shouldn’t have punted on 4th and 2 from the 40. Why are you paying Derrick Henry if not for that exact situation. As for McDermott. I’m pleasantly surprised we have a passing attack considering his rhetoric in first 3 seasons. I have an unprovable suspicion he’s the reason we are very conservative while backed up on offense. not going for it on 4th and 2 was ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I'm the only person on this board who's ever been wrong! ☺ If we lost yesterday he would of been seen as not good enough by many. 0-3 in playoffs. Fine margins Edited January 10, 2021 by london_bills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, MJS said: Ugh, he is way overrated. I'm right there with you. A buddy of mine had his kid in youth sports with his kid. He was exactly as you would imagine as a youth sports parent. Cursing out the refs, belittling the coaches. They said he was a complete Neanderthal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: McD can change. Remember when we loved fullbacks? that’s his best attribute. He has zero sacred cows. Winning, reflection and continuous improvement are everything for him. Edited January 10, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, london_bills said: If we lost yesterday he would of been seen as not good enough by many. 0-3 in playoffs. Fine margins And if my Aunt..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I'm the only person on this board who's ever been wrong! ☺ I feel for ya. I made a similar and more negative thread after the opening day loss to the Ravens in 2018. it’s amazing the same coach/GM that had peterman as opening day starter and shelter for Josh Allen got us to this point. 4 minutes ago, Beast said: And if my Aunt..... My aunt is bisexual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, london_bills said: If we lost yesterday he would of been seen as not good enough by many. 0-3 in playoffs. Fine margins And by not losing McD has now exonerated that no playoff win concern (thank god- it would have taken a whole year for another shot). Now, there is undeniable year over year improvement. Improved record, improved/dangerous offense, and playoff victory. The future is bright. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 McD is stubbornly loyal and resistant to making quick changes to his approach. He values continuity over the chaos of reactive leadership. This sometimes is frustrating and reminds me of that comic picture of a captain saluting as his ship sinks and the waters cover him, but that is part of his concept of process; an organization that has a vision and will stay on course pursuing that vision and is not going to become reactionary. That being said, he clearly believes there is a right time for internal discussions and self-scouting, as well as being open to philosophical/strategic coaching changes. For example, they went out and found a new o-line coach, they went out and found a new special teams coach. Both of these moves have paid dividends over the longer term. After a win you can get roasted here if you critique some of the ways our team could have played better. I do think this is misguided because I think it falls into that reactionary mindset of "this team sucks fire them all" after a loss and "this team is unstoppable" after a win. These are just fans being carried along by the emotion of the game - I get it and try not to take it personally when folks go nuts if I criticize a play. But McD when told that Allen had said post-game (paraphrasing here) that he was happy that although the team started out slow they were able to find their groove and move the ball/score, and then McD was asked if he was happy about that ability the offense had to course-correct. His response, was to smile and comment that he would rather we did not fall behind to start out a game. That is a fair response from a coach, and one that also shows that he is aware that our defense this year plays much better with a padded lead where they can focus on stopping the pass. He has done a good job with this team and is trying to build something sustainable. It has been fugly at times, but it is hard to argue with his track record to date. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/video/2020-nfl-on-fox-awards-sean-mcdermott-named-coach-of-the-year/vi-BB1cznsH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Where do we stand now? Outcoached another guy on your list. great job McD! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 EPIC.....this thread is good luck just like Pegula's socks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 This has aged like fine curdled buttermilk. Carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I love these threads from the ‘glass is ALWAYS empty’ people. This team is real. This coaching group is real. This front office team is real. GRASP REALITY!!! 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: This has aged like fine curdled buttermilk. Carry on! It has but not nearly as much as "miami is going to win the division" "Bills will lose 12 straight" "Dont look now but the Pats are making a comeback and dont be surprised if they keep the Bills from the wildcard" "Can't win with this point differential" and the list goes on and on. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) On 1/10/2021 at 4:43 PM, YoloinOhio said: A buddy of mine had his kid in youth sports with his kid. He was exactly as you would imagine as a youth sports parent. Cursing out the refs, belittling the coaches. They said he was a complete Neanderthal. Who you talking about Vrabel?? Edited January 17, 2021 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Here we effing go again. 😂😂 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Here we effing go again. 😂😂 Good on ya for owning it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Here we effing go again. 😂😂 Hang in there bro. It's actually a cult classic that you created. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 This one aged like fine wine baby 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 BOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Solid recovery... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Way to own it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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