PirateHookerMD Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Welp, he won’t regress.. Get well soon, Cody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Ouch wtf that hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Yikes... guess we won’t know what we have in him until Year 3. This is why you build depth.. I’m still high on an OL of Dawkins-Boettger-Morse-Feliciano-Williams. Hopefully their Winters obsession chills out. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour 16 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Jeesh. Besides Beane picking Ford, there is not a ton of evidence for me to think Ford is a long term solution at any position on the line. My hope is next year, the Bills put Ford in one spot and leave him there. The Bill need to only look at Williams as an example for putting a player in a position to excel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 That’s too bad. Hopefully Boetger continues to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour It happens, it could have been worse we could have drafted the "right Josh". 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TroutDog said: This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. Doesn’t it depend if it’s a trim or a repair? This is a full repair so seems right Edited November 27, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 minute ago, TroutDog said: This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. Athletes realistically should be in better condition than us and also more used to the rehab process since already work out etc. Toss in have the finest doctors available and more free time to do physical therapy etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Just now, The Jokeman said: Athletes realistically should be in better condition than us and also more used to the rehab process since already work out etc. Toss in have the finest doctors available and more free time to do physical therapy etc. Exactly: that’s my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour This is a lazy take-I think the Metcalf vs Ford debate has some merit, but Teller had shown nothing and people were excited that the Bills got anything done him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: Jeesh. Besides Beane picking Ford, there is not a ton of evidence for me to think Ford is a long term solution at any position on the line. My hope is next year, the Bills put Ford in one spot and leave him there. The Bill need to only look at Williams as an example for putting a player in a position to excel. When we drafted him, he was viewed as a potential pro-bowl caliber guard who could translate to tackle. We tried him at tackle. That didn’t work. He was also a rookie, and rookie tackles typically struggle. The only rookie tackle who’s looked legit from this past draft is Becton, and he gets hurt every game. At guard, I think he has the talent to be very good there, but we wasted one year at tackle and he’s been banged up most of this year at guard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Doesn’t it depend if it’s a trim or a repair? This is a full repair so seems right It may. I’ve had the surgery done seven times and they don’t typically repair them anymore according to my ortho. Partials they just let heal unless there is debris (just a minor scope then). Perhaps my doc is wrong...but I trust him. I’ve torn literally everything in my right knee save my LCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, TroutDog said: This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. Theres two options here: Trim: Quick recovery Repair: IR and long recovery. Clearly hes going for a repair and not a trim. Reasonable as he is early on in his career. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, TroutDog said: This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. I believe 3-4 weeks is if they scope and remove part of the meniscus. It sounds more likely they are doing a full meniscus repair/recover attempt rather than a removal and therefore the recovery is typically 3-4 months. The repair/recovery is the better long term option, but many players in season opt for a partial removal to allow them to get back out there. Not sure what all went into the decision. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: When we drafted him, he was viewed as a potential pro-bowl caliber guard who could translate to tackle. We tried him at tackle. That didn’t work. He was also a rookie, and rookie tackles typically struggle. The only rookie tackle who’s looked legit from this past draft is Becton, and he gets hurt every game. At guard, I think he has the talent to be very good there, but we wasted one year at tackle and he’s been banged up most of this year at guard. I hear ya. Going into next year just make him the LG and forget about all this moving around. Some players are jack of all trades, like Feliciano, others are not. I’m hoping Ford can be the king of left guards and pair with Dawkins for the next 5-10 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour How good is Wyatt ? I heard him getting praised briefly during last weeks browns game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: It happens, it could have been worse we could have drafted the "right Josh". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: How good is Wyatt ? I heard him getting praised briefly during last weeks browns game. He's playing well for the Brownies, but they (at least at the time of the trade) used a different blocking scheme he was of a fit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Whatever you do, Sean, just keep Winters on the bench. Hopefully Boettger and Feliciano can stay healthy through the remainder of the season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yay. More Brian Winters! You think? I’m hoping that it’s Boettger/Morse/Feliciano I’m with you on Winters. He’s a curse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: How good is Wyatt ? I heard him getting praised briefly during last weeks browns game. in the all pro convo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour Made up for it with the Diggs trade. I’d rather have diggs than DK 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, TroutDog said: It may. I’ve had the surgery done seven times and they don’t typically repair them anymore according to my ortho. Partials they just let heal unless there is debris (just a minor scope then). Perhaps my doc is wrong...but I trust him. I’ve torn literally everything in my right knee save my LCL. I think for an average person - your doctor is correct - they tend to trim because we are not abusing the knee to the level an athlete does. For NFL players they typically review options and make a decision based on how long they expect the player to play and how bad the tear is. If they can repair - most doctors think that is the better option because there is a good chance later in the career this is going to happen again and you want to maintain as much of the meniscus as possible for as long as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 In the short term it matters none.. In the long term it matters some.. Ford is just a guy but he has a high ceiling and his contract is cheap.. McD and co are hoping the light’ll turn on for him.. Guess we’ll have to wait till next year.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, TroutDog said: This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. Do we know the severity of the injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, TroutDog said: It may. I’ve had the surgery done seven times and they don’t typically repair them anymore according to my ortho. Partials they just let heal unless there is debris (just a minor scope then). Perhaps my doc is wrong...but I trust him. I’ve torn literally everything in my right knee save my LCL. . I’m physically active but I certainly do not put the kind of pressure on it that an NFL lineman would. Sounds like Cody’s condition was more involved.Clearly you have been through this a lot more than me. But about three years ago I had a small meniscus tear in my left knee. My ortho surgeon gave me the option of conservative treatment to let it heal on its own or orthoscopic surgery which would take care of it quicker. I opted for the surgery and was pretty much back to normal within 2 to 3 weeks. I’m physically active but I certainly do not put the kind of pressure on it that an NFL lineman would. Sounds like Cody’s condition was more involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 whatever it is its much better than an ACL injury and the depth at guard is likely our deepest on the OL, but still hurts, should be 100% for OTA and camp in 2021...2020 will just not stop with the bad news !!! sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Treatment options depend on the location and severity of the tear. From https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/musculoskeletal-and-rheumatology/2018/september/meniscus-tears-why-you-should-not-let-them-go-untreated : "In the case of meniscus tears, some people think the injury will heal over time on its own. But the truth is that there are different types of meniscus tears — and some tears won’t heal without treatment. If your tear is on the outer one-third of the meniscus, it may heal on its own or be repaired surgically. This is because this area has rich blood supply and blood cells can regenerate meniscus tissue — or help it heal after surgical repair. But if the tear is in the inner two-thirds, which lack blood flow, the tear cannot be repaired and may need to be trimmed or removed surgically." The full link gives considerably more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I don't see this as a big blow at all... the drop off from Ford to Boetteger is minimal if that's the route they go.... Ford was inconsistent. He was settling in a little at LG but there isn't any drop IMO to the other OGs on the roster. Our best 4 OL are Dawkins, Williams, Feliciano, and Morse. After that I view them pretty equally. Ford has the most talent though and upside, just too inconsistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour Give him a break. We now know Pegula runs the draft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I personally thought Ford showed a lot of improvement this year. I'd hardly call him a bust at this point. And players get hurt. This is bad news for this season, but it hardly plays into how the pick should be evaluated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I don't see this as a big blow at all... the drop off from Ford to Boetteger is minimal if that's the route they go.... Agreed. Beane has built his roster at the Lines in a similar fashion, solid depth and no superstars, but 2-3 solid guys. They overspent on Morse, but Dawkins is a real good player. Good coaching has helped a lot as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour Yeah, all he needed was a crystal ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour coulda, shoulda, didn't deal with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Never would have happened if his name was Cody Chevy 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I don't see this as a big blow at all... the drop off from Ford to Boetteger is minimal if that's the route they go.... Yup. While I wouldn’t have wanted any Bill to suffer a season ending injury, if forced to pick which starting OL to have it happen to....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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