Jump to content

Cody Ford out for the Season


Recommended Posts

Yikes... guess we won’t know what we have in him until Year 3.  
 

This is why you build depth..  I’m still high on an OL of Dawkins-Boettger-Morse-Feliciano-Williams.  
 

Hopefully their Winters obsession chills out. 

  • Like (+1) 11
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jeesh.  Besides Beane picking Ford, there is not a ton of evidence for me to think Ford is a long term solution at any position on the line. My hope is next year, the Bills put Ford in one spot and leave him there. The Bill need to only look at Williams as an example for putting a player in a position to excel. 

  • Like (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, TroutDog said:


This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. 

Doesn’t it depend if it’s a trim or a repair? This is a full repair so seems right 

Edited by YoloinOhio
  • Like (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, TroutDog said:


This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. 

Athletes realistically should be in better condition than us and also more used to the rehab process since already work out etc. Toss in have the finest doctors available and more free time to do physical therapy etc. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Athletes realistically should be in better condition than us and also more used to the rehab process since already work out etc. Toss in have the finest doctors available and more free time to do physical therapy etc. 

 

Exactly: that’s my point. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Drafting Cody and passing on DK, plus trading Wyatt .... not Beane’s finest hour

This is a lazy take-I think the Metcalf vs Ford debate has some merit, but Teller had shown nothing and people were excited that the Bills got anything done him 

  • Like (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Jeesh.  Besides Beane picking Ford, there is not a ton of evidence for me to think Ford is a long term solution at any position on the line. My hope is next year, the Bills put Ford in one spot and leave him there. The Bill need to only look at Williams as an example for putting a player in a position to excel. 


When we drafted him, he was viewed as a potential pro-bowl caliber guard who could translate to tackle.   
 

We tried him at tackle.  That didn’t work.  He was also a rookie, and rookie tackles typically struggle. The only rookie tackle who’s looked legit from this past draft is Becton, and he gets hurt every game.  
 

At guard, I think he has the talent to be very good there, but we wasted one year at tackle and he’s been banged up most of this year at guard. 

  • Like (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Doesn’t it depend if it’s a trim or a repair? This is a full repair so seems right 


It may. I’ve had the surgery done seven times and they don’t typically repair them anymore according to my ortho. Partials they just let heal unless there is debris (just a minor scope then). Perhaps my doc is wrong...but I trust him. I’ve torn literally everything in my right knee save my LCL. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, TroutDog said:


This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. 

 

Theres two options here: 

 

Trim: Quick recovery

Repair: IR and long recovery. 

 

Clearly hes going for a repair and not a trim. Reasonable as he is early on in his career. 

  • Like (+1) 2
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, TroutDog said:


This seems odd: most pro players who have a scope to fix a meniscus are typically our for four weeks or so. Three to four months is more typical of one of us dealing with this. 


 

I believe 3-4 weeks is if they scope and remove part of the meniscus. 
 

It sounds more likely they are doing a full meniscus repair/recover attempt rather than a removal and therefore the recovery is typically 3-4 months.  
 

The repair/recovery is the better long term option, but many players in season opt for a partial removal to allow them to get back out there.  
 

Not sure what all went into the decision.

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:


When we drafted him, he was viewed as a potential pro-bowl caliber guard who could translate to tackle.   
 

We tried him at tackle.  That didn’t work.  He was also a rookie, and rookie tackles typically struggle. The only rookie tackle who’s looked legit from this past draft is Becton, and he gets hurt every game.  
 

At guard, I think he has the talent to be very good there, but we wasted one year at tackle and he’s been banged up most of this year at guard. 

I hear ya. Going into next year just make him the LG and forget about all this moving around. Some players are jack of all trades, like Feliciano, others are not. I’m hoping Ford can be the king of left guards and pair with Dawkins for the next 5-10 years. 

  • Like (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, TroutDog said:


It may. I’ve had the surgery done seven times and they don’t typically repair them anymore according to my ortho. Partials they just let heal unless there is debris (just a minor scope then). Perhaps my doc is wrong...but I trust him. I’ve torn literally everything in my right knee save my LCL. 


 

I think for an average person - your doctor is correct - they tend to trim because we are not abusing the knee to the level an athlete does.

 

For NFL players they typically review options and make a decision based on how long they expect the player to play and how bad the tear is.  If they can repair - most doctors think that is the better option because there is a good chance later in the career this is going to happen again and you want to maintain as much of the meniscus as possible for as long as possible.

 

 

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 minutes ago, TroutDog said:


It may. I’ve had the surgery done seven times and they don’t typically repair them anymore according to my ortho. Partials they just let heal unless there is debris (just a minor scope then). Perhaps my doc is wrong...but I trust him. I’ve torn literally everything in my right knee save my LCL. 

. I’m physically active but I certainly do not put the kind of pressure on it that an NFL lineman would. Sounds like Cody’s condition was more involved.Clearly you have been through this a lot more than me. But about three years ago I had a small meniscus tear in my left knee. My ortho surgeon gave me the option of conservative treatment to let it heal on its own or orthoscopic surgery which would take care of it quicker. I opted for the surgery and was pretty much back to normal within 2 to 3 weeks. I’m physically active but I certainly do not put the kind of pressure on it that an NFL lineman would. Sounds like Cody’s condition was more involved.

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Treatment options depend on the location and severity of the tear.

 

From https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/musculoskeletal-and-rheumatology/2018/september/meniscus-tears-why-you-should-not-let-them-go-untreated :

 

"In the case of meniscus tears, some people think the injury will heal over time on its own. But the truth is that there are different types of meniscus tears — and some tears won’t heal without treatment.  If your tear is on the outer one-third of the meniscus, it may heal on its own or be repaired surgically. This is because this area has rich blood supply and blood cells can regenerate meniscus tissue — or help it heal after surgical repair.  But if the tear is in the inner two-thirds, which lack blood flow, the tear cannot be repaired and may need to be trimmed or removed surgically."

 

The full link gives considerably more details.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't see this as a big blow at all... the drop off from Ford to Boetteger is minimal if that's the route they go....

Ford was inconsistent. He was settling in a little at LG but there isn't any drop IMO to the other OGs on the roster. Our best 4 OL are Dawkins, Williams, Feliciano, and Morse. After that I view them pretty equally. Ford has the most talent though and upside, just too inconsistent. 

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't see this as a big blow at all... the drop off from Ford to Boetteger is minimal if that's the route they go....

Agreed.  Beane has built his roster at the Lines in a similar fashion, solid depth and no superstars, but 2-3 solid guys.  They overspent on Morse, but Dawkins is a real good player.  Good coaching has helped a lot as well

Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't see this as a big blow at all... the drop off from Ford to Boetteger is minimal if that's the route they go....

Yup.  While I wouldn’t have wanted any Bill to suffer a season ending injury, if forced to pick which starting OL to have it happen to.......

Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...