gobills404 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I'm wondering if maybe their plan was for him to cut some bad weight and add some of it back as added muscle, but the limited offseason prevented the latter from happening. Either way, I'm sure the weight loss is a big reason why he's had limited snaps so far. Losing 15-20 lb definitely changes the way you have to play as a lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The fact that he's #57 sure says something, too. He was #94 in college... did he choose #57? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I'd be wary of any major weight loss this year due to covid. Maybe it was planned, maybe it wasn't. Maybe he was just looking out for his own health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Dude you need some chicken wings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Azucho98 said: Hope he doesn't end up like Aaron Maybin - that dude was way too light and couldn't keep weight on. Completely different body type. Maybin struggled to stay at 240. AJ was 280 and looks to be told to lose weight. AJ always looked soft to me, as in muscle/fat. He doesn’t look powerful, more like a basketball player than a DE. 5 hours ago, gobills404 said: I'm wondering if maybe their plan was for him to cut some bad weight and add some of it back as added muscle, but the limited offseason prevented the latter from happening. Either way, I'm sure the weight loss is a big reason why he's had limited snaps so far. Losing 15-20 lb definitely changes the way you have to play as a lineman. I’m hoping an nfl weight program will transform his body. Same with Ed Oliver. If they can lose some fat and replace it with muscle I think it would help them both a lot. Ed is country strong atm. Imagine getting him to train like Donald and be a shredded monster. Edited October 15, 2020 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Rigotz said: I know we've mentioned this before, but guys ... very, very rarely do you see a rookie DE come in and dominate. This kid is 22 years old and he's playing against grown men. He has a big frame and we know he can put on the weight. I pulled up the stats of a few former Bills for comparison: Bruce Smith's rookie year (22 years old): 6.5 sacks Aaron Schobel's rookie year (24 years old): 6.5 sacks Jerry Hughes's first 3 years TOTAL: 5 sacks Kyle Williams first 3 years TOTAL: 4 sacks Mario Williams rookie year: 4.5 sacks Is this a Buffalo BIlls phenomenon? Nope. JJ Watt had 5.5 sacks his rookie year and 20.5 his second year. TJ Watt had 7 sacks his rookie year and 13 his second year. It takes time. We won't know what we have in Epenesa until year 2. Don't worry too much about the weight... it's his first year doing 24/7 weight training, professionally. agree. I'm not worried about him. He'll be a monster next year. they get all buffed up to be fast at the combine, then the reality of the NFL has them gain 20 lbs. by year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 does anyone know why he simply does not participate in special teams? like, can he not be coached up to contribute? old man lorax was on ST at least some of the time, certainly AJ doesn't get winded or not have the running range that lorax did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Maybe the plan is for him to eventually play CB2?! Joking, but he does look smaller than he did even from that video where he plowed over Winters. I hope, we don’t have a Maybin 2.0 here. I doubt it, can’t see Beane making that big of a swing and miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 As I said in another thread, Epanesa reminds me of Super Mario Bros when the magic mushroom wears off and Mario shrinks in size. He looks shockingly different than he did in college and he’s being totally washed out of most plays by the opposing lineman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I can't believe no one has asked what his secret is? I think most of us could stand to lose a little weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Was this talked about at all after the draft or in training camp? I looked up his draft profile and he was at 275 lbs. Other sites had him listed as 280 lbs at Iowa. https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/2020-nfl-draft-profile-why-iowas-aj-epenesas-fits-49ers-no-31 The Bills site has him at 260 lbs. I thought he looked a little smaller but thought maybe he was around bigger dudes and was wearing a tighter jersey with smaller pads. I was wrong. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/players-roster/a-j-epenesa/ I'm guessing when Beane stated they might want to kick him inside in some situations...those plans changed. I can't imagine him losing 15-20 lbs without direction from McDermott. Maybe they want to keep him out in the edge? Lorax was about 250 lbs I believe and would rush inside on certain packages. But.....I think Lorax was more powerful. @Giuseppe Tognarelli I agree he looked smaller but he had a burst off the line that was impressive. He needs to get more playing time because Murphy is just garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I agree he looked smaller but he had a burst off the line that was impressive. He needs to get more playing time because Murphy is just garbage. Murphy is better than Espenesa right now. He gives the OL man a tougher time when he also gets pushed out of the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: Murphy is better than Espenesa right now. He gives the OL man a tougher time when he also gets pushed out of the play. This is why I miss S. Lawson the most of all our FA losses. I would like to see AJ get some more reps, maybe on passing downs. I really think AJ will be the starter as some point within the next few weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: His speed has picked up though. On the Goff play action to the flat pass....AJ got to Goff very quickly. Almost had the sack but Goff got it off. The bigger AJ wouldn't have gotten there. Great point. He is def faster and had another nice play vs Titans that was speed related. I still think he would be an upgrade over AJ Klein to fill Lorax shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 His snap count was 4 Tuesday. Overall only played 17% of snaps. Would think keeping his weight down would be more of a struggle while riding the pines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I didn’t really understand the pick when it happened. Now it’s just as if it was completely pointless. You can see how disappointed Mcd is with him. Watch how he called him off the field after that Offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I didn’t really understand the pick when it happened. Now it’s just as if it was completely pointless. You can see how disappointed Mcd is with him. Watch how he called him off the field after that Offside. He was pissed at the moment. 3rd and 7 now became 3rd and 2. That basically sealed the game for TN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I feel like his game is supposed to be power, and I've heard analysis saying they think his problem right now is he needs to get stronger. So I really don't understand the weight loss. He looks slight out there. Agreed. He was more of a bull rush, strong hand punch style player in college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's kind of the implication of the "slim down, train for speed, then build up muscle" recipe. Lorax converted successfully from DL to LB But He had a real head for the pro game as well Epenesa TBD He’s clearly ona short leash... that one Offside and Sean yanked him right back out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 12 hours ago, Lurker said: It's concerning, in an Aaron Maybin way, that he doesn't seem to be able to tranlate that "one good year" of college ball to the next level... "Aaron Maybin is the future of the Bills. I'm in charge and you better believe me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 hours ago, WideNine said: Maybe another before and after pic...are the Bills trying to save on groceries. Feed that man a steak. Frazier is cheap! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Who cares as long as he is faster and stronger I will take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 It's extremely common for NFL rookies to have trouble keeping weight on, though I'd say that with the lack of a traditional offseason, it's more likely this is intentional to try to be a faster player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 is this thin shaming? whatever it is, i don't like it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I’m surprised we haven’t seen more of D Johnson in the line, looks like he found the weight AJ lost and is ready to contribute, but good ole Mr. Red is in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, teef said: is this thin shaming? whatever it is, i don't like it. It’s incompetence shaming. It’s like when you ask the office girl to pick up some glazed donuts for the morning meeting, and she brings back bagels instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Frazier is cheap! Honestly, it is like they put the dude on a tofu and kale diet. We need strong guys on our d line that can shed blocks or bull rush and take good angles to make a play not track stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 It's pretty obvious the boys are trying to turn AJ into Zo. He even has his number. He'll have to improve his coverage if he's ever going to be an outside edge guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I wonder how many people move to Buffalo and lose weight 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I wonder how many people move to Buffalo and lose weight From Iowa tho... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: From Iowa tho... “Man, these Buffalo people are so skinny dad!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, teef said: is this thin shaming? whatever it is, i don't like it. Do you even lift bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you even lift bro? Just got back from the gym bro! I’m going to spend some time looking in the mirror, then maybe hang with the family. Not sure about the family part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s incompetence shaming. It’s like when you ask the office girl to pick up some glazed donuts for the morning meeting, and she brings back bagels instead. This is bagel shaming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, teef said: Just got back from the gym bro! I’m going to spend some time looking in the mirror, then maybe hang with the family. Not sure about the family part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: This is bagel shaming Only if the office girl is putting bagels in a HR unapproved location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Madbillsfan said: Hope we weren’t Mamula’d. Mamula went 7th overall. Epenesa went 54th. ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I said in a GDT that he needs to put a few pounds on. Perhaps I’m outdated? I like the Bruce build as I believe it helps set the edge. Maybe I’m wrong? But then I think that Jerry has been absolutely overwhelmed by taking too much of an inside move. To be honest, I’m not sure if it’s body size or coaching. Either way, the Bills need help on the edge and it needs to happen very soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Mamula went 7th overall. Epenesa went 54th. ok. Oh. So there’s no way he could have faked who he really is because of draft status? I’m so dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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