CorkScrewHill Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 This is not a slam on the front office .. I am personally very surprised he is playing so well. He seemed like a good enough kid .. so good luck to him. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/09/why-wyatt-teller-is-the-browns-offensive-mvp-gotta-watch-the-tape-an-orange-and-brown-talk-special-edition.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) Good luck Wyatt. glad we traded him for Diggs Edited September 26, 2020 by NewEra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Good for him. He has the tools, just wasn’t putting them together quickly enough here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) I think he blossomed as expected. He's a beast in the run game, but still work in progress in PP. If Allen was more seasoned, they could keep developing him, but they couldn't throw Teller out on the field 2 yrs ago. Edited September 26, 2020 by GG 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I was upset when we traded him. I texted my buddy who is a browns fan and told him they got a freakin steal 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, Brennan Huff said: I was upset when we traded him. I texted my buddy who is a browns fan and told him they got a freakin steal I was feeling the same way. Focused on him a lot a TC. Dude is a savage. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I think most of us knew he was going to be an NFL starter but he got caught in a numbers games. Feliciano made him expendable last summer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 It’s the least we can give them for actually giving us a good draft pick to take tyrod off our hands. I liked teller and he had a ton of potential, he just didn’t time well with the window we were working with. Right by the time he takes that leap to legit starter level he’ll be due for a big contract too 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 This hurts but consider that Guards are abundant elite WRs, CBS, TEs, QBs not so much. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 53 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: This is not a slam on the front office .. I am personally very surprised he is playing so well. He seemed like a good enough kid .. so good luck to him. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/09/why-wyatt-teller-is-the-browns-offensive-mvp-gotta-watch-the-tape-an-orange-and-brown-talk-special-edition.html Great, but if we had kept him for the last year and a half - where does he slot on the Bills guard depth chart? His strength is and was run blocking and we are a pass first team. He is an average to below average pass blocker. My feeling is if he had progressed exactly the same (so if you put him on the Bills right now) - he is 4th or 5th on the depth chart at best. Spain, Feliciano, and Ford are all better and I think Winter beats him out also. I think he is competing with Boettger for a roster spot. I am not really surprised - he showed some talent in his limited time starting, but he showed his greatest strength in run blocking and a nastiness that was replaced by Feliciano who is also a better pass blocker. I look at it as the Bills FO got something for a guy that would not really fit their long term vision of the team and I am fine with that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He is a worse pass blocker and equivalent run blocking cheaper version of Feliciano. Win win scenario for everyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: I was upset when we traded him. I texted my buddy who is a browns fan and told him they got a freakin steal The good thing for us? We draft exceptionally well for the most part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He is a much better scheme it for what Cleveland runs than what we run. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Wasn’t there a thread about a week ago about how he was getting his azz beat ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Happy he is doing well. He just didn't have the positional flexibility along the line to justify keeping him over someone else who was at least as good (while he was here) and could move across the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 The truth is this: Right, wrong, or otherwise, he would have been cut by Buffalo if he wasn't traded away instead. At least we got a 5th back instead of nothing at all. Also, good for Teller. Seems like a good dude and is fun to watch. I'm rooting for him in every game where the Browns' opponent is not the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Teller probably wouldn't have gotten the snaps needed here last year to help him develop. Spain was proven and playing well and Mongo was having a good year. The Bills basically got back the pick they spent on him and the Browns developed him in 2019 due to their oline issues and now he is playing well. A case of good timing for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: The good thing for us? We draft exceptionally well for the most part. This. It shows Beane can find starting caliber guards in the draft in mid to late rounds. That’s one way to look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Logic said: The truth is this: Right, wrong, or otherwise, he would have been cut by Buffalo if he wasn't traded away instead. At least we got a 5th back instead of nothing at all. Also, good for Teller. Seems like a good dude and is fun to watch. I'm rooting for him in every game where the Browns' opponent is not the Bills. Another thing is that the Browns have a very good oline coach and they gave Teller a lot of snaps in 2019 where he was inconsistent. There is no guarantee that with this teams coaching and with less playing time he breaks out in the same way. When you have a good team players that are on the margins of your roster will go on to have success elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Another thing is that the Browns have a very good oline coach and they gave Teller a lot of snaps in 2019 where he was inconsistent. There is no guarantee that with this teams coaching and with less playing time he breaks out in the same way. When you have a good team players that are on the margins of your roster will go on to have success elsewhere. Good point. Once upon a time not so long ago, players cut by the Bills usually washed out of the league completely. Nowadays, they start for other teams or catch touchdown passes on Monday Night Football. Overall, a great indicator of the depth and competition level of the Bills roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I thought he could develop into a good guard given time, especially when the Bills went out and hired Bobby Johnson. Not sure if developing interior linemen is Beane's philosophy. He seems more inclined to find passable free agents with a few miles of experience that are affordable to fill the depth chart. Was honestly very surprised by the Ford pick... first that he was so high on their board, and second by going after that pick early they were committing to his development. I am not knocking Ford, he was a man amongst boys in college, I only thought he would struggle with his lateral movement and pulls needed at an NFL level to be effective in pass pro and pulling. I always think that young players can improve their craft, just that the Bills are going to have to show more patience with him than they did Teller. I am glad for Teller and am pulling for Ford to make me eat my words:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, WideNine said: Not sure if developing interior linemen is Beane's philosophy. He seems more inclined to find passable free agents with a few miles of experience that are affordable to fill the depth chart. I think he'd rather draft and develop tackles/versatile linemen and kick them inside if he has to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: This is not a slam on the front office .. I am personally very surprised he is playing so well. He seemed like a good enough kid .. so good luck to him. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/09/why-wyatt-teller-is-the-browns-offensive-mvp-gotta-watch-the-tape-an-orange-and-brown-talk-special-edition.html I'm not surprised. Didn't like that we traded him but figured this Offense we run may not have been the right fit for the guy and he got traded for that reason. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: Good point. Once upon a time not so long ago, players cut by the Bills usually washed out of the league completely. Nowadays, they start for other teams or catch touchdown passes on Monday Night Football. Overall, a great indicator of the depth and competition level of the Bills roster. Any team is going to have players that thrive elsewhere but the Bills for once aren't just losing players that develop elsewhere they are losing players at positions that the team isn't lacking in. 10 years ago the Bills would have had a terrible oline and traded Teller who would develop for another team and the Bills fans would be hounding the front office because they could have used help on the oline. Now because the drafting and development has been better the margins of the roster are stronger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Good for him. He has the tools, just wasn’t putting them together quickly enough here. "quickly enough"? He was a 2nd year fifth round pick... nonetheless the picks we acquired were part of Diggs trade, so I think most of us would have pulled the trigger on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I just knew Wyatt was gonna be good.......good luck to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Oooh, top ranked guard by PFF. Color me envious! Edited September 27, 2020 by Rocky Landing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Good problem to have when we are “losing” talented players because we don’t have room for them. Kudos to Beane, McD & his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I liked Teller. I don't know why so many people were so hard on him. I wish he'd come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: This is not a slam on the front office .. I am personally very surprised he is playing so well. He seemed like a good enough kid .. so good luck to him. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/09/why-wyatt-teller-is-the-browns-offensive-mvp-gotta-watch-the-tape-an-orange-and-brown-talk-special-edition.html mark of a good team, good roster. ex players doing well on other teams. 5 years ago , ex bills become ex NFLers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 11 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: I'm not surprised. Didn't like that we traded him but figured this Offense we run may not have been the right fit for the guy and he got traded for that reason. Who knows. He was drafted when Juan Castillo was trying to run his very zone heavy blocking scheme. When the Bills moved on from Castillo they changed up their blocking style and while we do still do some zone blocking we do some man block concepts too. Cleveland run a zone block heavy run game and that is where Teller fits best. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) You can't keep everyone. Its not like Beane didn't know he was trading away talent...he did draft him. BTW all the best Wyatt except when you play the Bills Edited September 27, 2020 by JMF2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Either way our line is still pretty well setup. If anything it shows again that Beane and our FO have a serious good knack at identifying talent. I really, really hope Beane gets a long term contract extension through 2025 like McD. Does anyone happen to know Beane's current contract with the Bills? Edited October 5, 2020 by Real McNasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 11:37 AM, CorkScrewHill said: This is not a slam on the front office .. I am personally very surprised he is playing so well. He seemed like a good enough kid .. so good luck to him. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/09/why-wyatt-teller-is-the-browns-offensive-mvp-gotta-watch-the-tape-an-orange-and-brown-talk-special-edition.html They thought he was another incognito, so they made two mistakes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cson76 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Per PFF highest grade for a guard after four weeks (since '06): 2020 Wyatt Teller - 94.1 2013 Evan Mathis - 93.9 2016 Zack Martin - 93.6 2016 Justin Pugh - 93.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Good for Teller. Glad he is finding some success. Always happy to see a VA kid make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 4:40 PM, Brennan Huff said: I was upset when we traded him. I texted my buddy who is a browns fan and told him they got a freakin steal And so far they haven't got one. He has been a serviceable player on a bad line or a backup on a good one. So a day 3 pick is fair value. He'd be behind Ford, Feliciano and Spain if he was still here, possibly Winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Is he any relation to William? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He looked pretty bad in the pass plays I watched of him vs Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Mountain Man said: And so far they haven't got one. He has been a serviceable player on a bad line or a backup on a good one. So a day 3 pick is fair value. He'd be behind Ford, Feliciano and Spain if he was still here, possibly Winters. What? Did you even read the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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