McDermott contract extension

[PromoTheRobot]

18 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

Not a fan of this.

 

He hasn't proven anything yet.

 

 

Nope not a thing. This team is indistinguishable from any of the drought teams.

[teef]

6 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Pics or it didn't happen.

do you know what blind people do to see?  maybe we can try that.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Nope not a thing. This team is indistinguishable from any of the drought teams.

 

Makes you wonder what some of these people have been watching.

 

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, teef said:

do you know what blind people do to see?  maybe we can try that.

I like your style.

[Gambit]

I'm surprised to see the typical negative crowd is, well being negative about this. I swear you guys would find a way to complain even if Buffalo wins it all. This is such fantastic news for the Bills. He is a damn good coach who has been improving year after year.

[teef]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Dude he's .500 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Set the bar higher.

didn't you hear i'm shirtless?

[boater]

2025 .. it's a long contract.

 

Dare I say dynasty.

[Klaista2k]

12 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Anything?  A team that missed the playoffs for 17 straight years has now been there 2 out of 3 years, no?

I'm just not sold on him yet. 

 

2017

We started hot at 5-2 but then fell apart at the end of the season finishing 9-7. We finished the second half of the season 4-5 and backed into the playoffs. We get into the playoffs and can't even score a single touchdown. 

 

2018

6-10. Miss playoffs. 

 

2019

Finish 10-6. Good record on paper but let's be real this was an extremely easy schedule. In the playoff game against Houston we only manage 1 touchdown (first series) the entire game.

 

 

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

In the 17 years before McD how many playoff appearances has the team made? Since McD got here the team has made 2 both with winning records. He has proven to be an elite defensive coach and built a culture and roster that has set up this team for success in the next 3 seasons. I fail to see what there isn't to like about it. There is no salary cap for coaches if the Bills go 6-10 the next two years and McD gets fire the Pegulas just eat the money.

Yes but what about offense? His teams have seemed to really struggle on offense. 

[eball]

11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Dude he's .500 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Set the bar higher.

 

Prove my statement wrong.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

I'm just not sold on him yet. 

 

2017

We started hot at 5-2 but then fell apart at the end of the season finishing 9-7. We finished the second half of the season 4-5 and backed into the playoffs. We get into the playoffs and can't even score a single touchdown. 

 

2018

6-10. Miss playoffs. 

 

2019

Finish 10-6. Good record on paper but let's be real this was an extremely easy schedule. In the playoff game against Houston we only manage 1 touchdown (first series) the entire game.

 

 

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

 

Hey buddy, there are a couple of other guys in this thread you should start hanging out with...the three of you together would be a hoot.

 

 

Edited August 12, 2020 by eball

[teef]

10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Pants are on though?

depends on you scott.  depends on you.

[BillsVet]

45 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

Here's the thing: why do you care?

 

It's not like his salary counts against the cap, or this deal is putting the team in a horrible corner if he bombs the next two years. If it doesn't work out, they fire him and eat the salary. But if you follow the current trajectory and the team moves on to do great things,  then you don't HAVE to worry about him leaving.

 

Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?  First, because it's a relevant topic as McD is the Bills and vice-versa.  Second, from the get-go McD has been leading their team-building strategy.  

 

So far, McD has largely been a defense first HC that packs it in at crucial moments. 

 

Re-signing McD may be good or may be bad.  People are going to (hopefully) debate this decision, but only time will tell. 

 

37 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

What is a tell tale sign that your team is doing well?  The HC gets a contract extension

 

When was the LAST time that happened in Buffalo

 

As others have noted, Jauron received an extension.  Didn't mean anything in the long run, but seeing as how everyone needs instant analysis or to draw conclusions of things that haven't happened, it's become a net positive the day it was signed. 

 

Edited August 12, 2020 by BillsVet

[Doc]

13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Dude he's .500 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Set the bar higher.

Yup.  Thanks to crooked refs.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Dude he's .500 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Set the bar higher.

I’d love to know who could’ve squeezed more than 6 wins out of that 2018 squad (recall: Beane made purposeful decision to take the hot garbage salary cap lumps of dead money all in one gulp instead of over time) which featured nothing at o-line, nothing at QB (remember DA?) outside of rookie Allen, and nothing at WR? Just sayin’ you need to give the 6-10 year a bit more context. The Bills had no business winning even 6 games with that roster, everyone here knows that’s a true statement. 

Edited August 12, 2020 by NoHuddleKelly12

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

It seems to me the people who feel this was premature are primarily stats people.

 

THIS is his record for his first three year.

 

He's .500 career and 0-2 in the playoffs.

 

When you mostly rely on stats, you lose full sight of everything else that has been going on...things that don't show up on paper, but long-time Bills fans know in their hearts. This team can suddenly win games they're supposed to win. And they're winning games you'd expect them to lose. The Dallas Thanksgiving Day was the clincher for me. A prime-time road game with everyone in the country watching? That's a game the Bills have puked up for years. But McDermott had them ready to play.

 

Hell, one of the best Bills moments in years shows you the kind of team this guy is putting together. How do you watch these videos without understanding that McDermott leads them to be this kind of team. How do you watch them, think about the past season, and think, "Well, I'm not fully sold on McDermott yet!"

 

Stare at numbers all you want. But there's more to this than numbers, and the 99% of Bills fans cheering this extension can see it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KD in CA]

His (and Beane's) most significant accomplishment can be found in the recent comments by Josh Norman.  It's not about his coaching record, it's about the rapid evolution of the Bills from a team that was considered the bottom of the barrel in the NFL to one that has a positive culture where guys want to play.

 

No one can guarantee winning, but what you can do is put your franchise in position where it has the opportunity.  The Bills went two decades without that opportunity and now they have it.  I'd say that's accomplishing a lot.

[John from Riverside]

28 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?  First, because it's a relevant topic as McD is the Bills and vice-versa.  Second, from the get-go McD has been leading their team-building strategy.  

 

So far, McD has largely been a defense first HC that packs it in at crucial moments. 

 

Re-signing McD may be good or may be bad.  People are going to (hopefully) debate this decision, but only time will tell. 

 

 

As others have noted, Jauron received an extension.  Didn't mean anything in the long run, but seeing as how everyone needs instant analysis or to draw conclusions of things that haven't happened, it's become a net positive the day it was signed. 

 

Packs it in at crucial moments?

[BuffaninSarasota]

4 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Why are we rushing into an extension when he still had 2 years left on his first contract? 

 

His the best coach we've had since at least Wade, but all he's shown so far is that he can take average teams to a first round playoff exit. 

 

I would've waited at least 1 more year before extending. 

 

Because it sends a broader message that BUF is a well-oiled machine and has reinforced us as a desired destination

[GunnerBill]

39 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?  First, because it's a relevant topic as McD is the Bills and vice-versa.  Second, from the get-go McD has been leading their team-building strategy.  

 

So far, McD has largely been a defense first HC that packs it in at crucial moments. 

 

Re-signing McD may be good or may be bad.  People are going to (hopefully) debate this decision, but only time will tell. 

 

 

As others have noted, Jauron received an extension.  Didn't mean anything in the long run, but seeing as how everyone needs instant analysis or to draw conclusions of things that haven't happened, it's become a net positive the day it was signed. 

 

 

Jauron's extension and this extension could not be more different.

[billsfan89]

44 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

I'm just not sold on him yet. 

 

2017

We started hot at 5-2 but then fell apart at the end of the season finishing 9-7. We finished the second half of the season 4-5 and backed into the playoffs. We get into the playoffs and can't even score a single touchdown. 

 

2018

6-10. Miss playoffs. 

 

2019

Finish 10-6. Good record on paper but let's be real this was an extremely easy schedule. In the playoff game against Houston we only manage 1 touchdown (first series) the entire game.

 

 

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

 

 

Yes but what about offense? His teams have seemed to really struggle on offense. 

 

Did McD inherit a lot of offensive talent? Look at the context of the situation to see why the offenses haven't been very good. The O-line in 2017 was an aging InCog, Wood and a busted up Cordy Glenn. The three best skill position players were Shady (a RB with one more decent season left), Sammy (A malcontent who was traded for good value) and Clay a banged up TE.  The QB was Tyrod a decent placeholder but more of a game manager. 

 

2018 they traded a lot of their assets to get Josh and took on a lot of dead money to build the team the right way long term. 2019 they rebuilt the O-line into a respectable unit, added 2 quality WR's and a young RB while getting Josh some more experience. Now they added a stud WR in Diggs, some complementary parts like Moss and kept the O-line cohesion going. They haven't neglected the offense they just started farther back on that side of the ball. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, teef said:

i took my shirt off to celebrate the news

 

I hope you didn’t scare your patient!!!

 

[sherpa]

Make no mistake.

The NFL at the organizational level is a relatively small fraternity.

If the Bills showed anything but respect and appreciation for what has has happened the last three years, we would hve great difficulty attractive competitive, highly respected staff.

Buffalo is not Dallas.

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, sherpa said:

Make no mistake.

The NFL at the organizational level is a relatively small fraternity.

If the Bills showed anything but respect and appreciation for what has has happened the last three years, we would hve great difficulty attractive competitive, highly respected staff.

Buffalo is not Dallas.

No offense, but this was almost unreadable.  What are you trying to say?

[GunnerBill]

30 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

It seems to me the people who feel this was premature are primarily stats people.

 

THIS is his record for his first three year.

 

He's .500 career and 0-2 in the playoffs.

 

When you mostly rely on stats, you lose full sight of everything else that has been going on...things that don't show up on paper, but long-time Bills fans know in their hearts. This team can suddenly win games they're supposed to win. And they're winning games you'd expect them to lose. The Dallas Thanksgiving Day was the clincher for me. A prime-time road game with everyone in the country watching? That's a game the Bills have puked up for years. But McDermott had them ready to play.

 

Hell, one of the best Bills moments in years shows you the kind of team this guy is putting together. How do you watch these videos without understanding that McDermott leads them to be this kind of team. How do you watch them, think about the past season, and think, "Well, I'm not fully sold on McDermott yet!"

 

Stare at numbers all you want. But there's more to this than numbers, and the 99% of Bills fans cheering this extension can see it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Correct. It is about more than Ws and Ls. It is about the culture. It is the way he has raised the standard in the whole organisation. Raised the expectation. Created a sense of direction. Everyone in that building, Brandon Beane included, is following HIS lead. This is HIS programme. And you need to be all in. 

 

He is the definition of a leader. 

[IDBillzFan]

42 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?

 

No. Beyond discussing the news itself, why does anyone care there is an extension to the extent they think it's a bad idea. It has very little downside to it and plenty of upside. I can't imagine finding any fault with this decision because it doesn't impact anything beyond the Pegula's wallet.

 

If they made the wrong choice, they'll fire him. 

[sherpa]

1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

No offense, but this was almost unreadable.  What are you trying to say?

 

I don't think it's that complicated.

The Bills organization was not a desired destination for the top talent in the coaching/GM world for years under Ralph, and that is grossly understating the situation.

Things have changed for the better.

Treating the current staff with respect by rewarding a job well done, (so far), along with vast improvements in other areas not always visible to the casual fan is a step in the right direction, and has many peripheral benefits..

[Johnnycage46]

3 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I don't think it's that complicated.

The Bills organization was not a desired destination for the top talent in the coaching/GM world for years under Ralph, and that is grossly understating the situation.

Things have changed for the better.

Treating the current staff with respect by rewarding a job well done, (so far), along with vast improvements in other areas not always visible to the casual fan is a step in the right direction, and has many peripheral benefits..

 

Ok, THIS makes more sense.  I was just honestly not understanding what you wrote the first time (not being a dick, just wasn't sure what your point was).  Thanks!

[longtimebillsfan]

4 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

So, we got this going for us  ?? 

Sean came in with a plan, and a way to implement the plan. Good to know he will be a round for a while longer. 

Does anyone know how long the extension is for? Didn’t see it in the press clippings. 
 

Go Bills!!!

I heard it is through 2023. did not hear the dollar amount.

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I heard it is through 2023. did not hear the dollar amount.

 

It is through 2025. The two years he has left plus 4 more. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

I would've waited on this one given the length. I kind of just thought this was going to bring his contract to 3 or 4 years

 

I think McD's a good teacher of the game but he's far from one of the best on gameday and hasn't done well going up against the better coaches and teams. 

 

Hopefully it works out. As we've seen, you don't necessarily always have to have a top echelon coach to win it all. 

 

 

[Nester]

love it !

[Doc]

Again since the money comes out of Terry's deep pockets and doesn't affect the salary cap, there's nothing not to like about extending McD.  And as for looking for a replacement because making the playoffs twice in 3 years but not winning a playoff game (again because of chicanery by the refs in the last game) isn't good enough..who are you pining-for who will be available in 2021?  Be specific, please.

Edited August 12, 2020 by Doc

[CLTbills]

Good. Now do the same with Beane.

[HurlyBurly51]

Good.

[Logic]

I'm thrilled about this.

I imagine 99.9% of fans are, too, and the .1% who aren't are ScottLaw and his in-laws.

Now go extend Beane and I'll feel incredibly excited about the future of this team.

As others have said, even if Allen turns out not to be the guy, having Beane and McDermott in place going forward will give me faith that the Bills will continue to be a winning and well-run organization.

[Doc]

I really wonder what Beane would have done in the 2017 draft if he had been with the Bills prior to it?  Would he have taken Mahomes?

[Billy Claude]

Plus this is the first year in a while that the Pegulas are not paying multiple head coaches so they probably had a little extra in the coaching budget.

[Victory Formation]

It makes sense, I don’t mean to state the obvious, we already have 17 pages of redundancy at this point. Nothing more to say other than it makes a lot of sense. Don’t think anyone can make a serious argument against not re-signing Coach McDermott. Although we as fans should expect a Lombardi at some point during the next 6 years, team is too loaded not to.

[HOUSE]

Now lock up the Buffalo Sabres coaches before they all sneak away...

 

[JMF2006]

Whooo Hooo

 

Happy for McClappy

 

So glad they made this hire and he likes it enough here to re sign.

 

Now get Mr Beane done

 

 

[stuvian]

6 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

I guess I'm a pessimist, but I'm not happy with this decision. 

 

I think he's a fairly average coach. The 2017 Bills were a very mediocre team that finished 9-7 and made the playoffs only through the grace of god. The 2019 Bills were a bit better, but finished 10-6 with an insanely easy schedule. 

 

The team is trending in the right direction, but if we don't take that next step I think we'll regret this decision. 

 

 

 

 

this smacks of attention seeking. Please turn in your Man card in at the exit. Your Bills fan cred has been revoked