McDermott contract extension

[Beast]

Very pleased with this news. Good job by the Pegula's not making this an issue.

 

I'm sure Beane will be done in short order.

 

[JMF2006]

7 hours ago, dreadlox said:

Who was the last Bills HC to get an extension, Dick Jauron?

 

Billboard time

[PromoTheRobot]

Ice cold take.

 

7 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

I guess I'm a pessimist, but I'm not happy with this decision. 

 

I think he's a fairly average coach. The 2017 Bills were a very mediocre team that finished 9-7 and made the playoffs only through the grace of god. The 2019 Bills were a bit better, but finished 10-6 with an insanely easy schedule. 

 

The team is trending in the right direction, but if we don't take that next step I think we'll regret this decision. 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you wake up from a coma at the end of every football season, look at the standings, and form your opinions off that?

Edited August 13, 2020 by PromoTheRobot

[Doc]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Ice cold take.

 

 

Do you wake up from a coma at the end of every football season, look at the standings, and form your opinions of that?

 

LOL!  That was written after 2 games (losses admittedly) into McD's 2nd season, after taking the Bills to the playoffs for the first time in 17 years.  I hope that writer bet the house on that one.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

[Logic]

I didn't see it mentioned anywhere so far, but I wanted to point out that there was a clause in McDermott's new contract stating that any players joining the Bills roster going forward must have wrestled in either high school or college and must own at least three pieces of camouflage clothing. 

In all seriousness, I DID read that he's going to be paid per clap, so the contract could get pretty lucrative pretty quickly. 

[BurpleBull]

Rest assured that Nathan Peterman will redeem himself and that Gabriel Davis will do big things in Buffalo.

 

McDermott, Peterman, and Davis: all guys I really coveted, who ended up in the Bills' org. 

[BillsFan2313]

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

He was the moment. More so than Andy Dalton's pass or drafting Josh Allen or even the Pegulas buying the team. 

 

The moment this franchise hired Sean McDermott was the moment everything changed. I lobbied for us to fire Rex a year earlier to hire McDermott. I loved the hire when it came and I love the extension. He is the reason we are relevant again. 

 

I lobbied for McDermott, the year we hired Rex. 

[Chicken Boo]

Could have waited a year, but it was inevitable.  McDermott is a good coach that is deserving of seeing his vision through.

[DrDawkinstein]

A side thought: I'd bet this extension only helps with negotiating all the high-profile player extensions we have coming up. White, Dawkins, and especially Milano can see the coach who is going to be here through their next contract, and it's someone they actually want to play for.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Too soon. Last year's schedule was a joke. He had no leverage to go anywhere else.  No reason to extend him now until you see what he does with this team.

At least 6 years is only half of the career INT total for Nathan Peterman but 5 more than the number of successful challenges. 

 

[billsfan89]

Just now, Chicken Boo said:

Could have waited a year, but it was inevitable.  McDermott is a good coach that is deserving of seeing his vision through.

 

Why wait a year? This isn't a situation where ownership is going to not be willing to eat a few years on the contract. The Pegula's aren't cheap, McD is going to around at worst 2 more seasons (If the bottom completely falls out and they go 4-12 back to back seasons) and likely at least 3 more seasons if things go bad. The Pegula's are likely willing to eat 3 years on his deal if they want to dump him. If you wait the year you risk having an unstable coaching and GM situation. Show faith in the coach and GM and send a message that they are here to stay.

[Johnnycage46]

8 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Too soon. Last year's schedule was a joke. He had no leverage to go anywhere else.  No reason to extend him now until you see what he does with this team.

At least 6 years is only half of the career INT total for Nathan Peterman but 5 more than the number of successful challenges. 

 

What a shocking take.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

4 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

It seems to me the people who feel this was premature are primarily stats people.

 

THIS is his record for his first three year.

 

He's .500 career and 0-2 in the playoffs.

 

When you mostly rely on stats, you lose full sight of everything else that has been going on...things that don't show up on paper, but long-time Bills fans know in their hearts. This team can suddenly win games they're supposed to win. And they're winning games you'd expect them to lose. The Dallas Thanksgiving Day was the clincher for me. A prime-time road game with everyone in the country watching? That's a game the Bills have puked up for years. But McDermott had them ready to play.

 

Hell, one of the best Bills moments in years shows you the kind of team this guy is putting together. How do you watch these videos without understanding that McDermott leads them to be this kind of team. How do you watch them, think about the past season, and think, "Well, I'm not fully sold on McDermott yet!"

 

Stare at numbers all you want. But there's more to this than numbers, and the 99% of Bills fans cheering this extension can see it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I think I care more about playoff wins than lockerroom hugs. You should too. Good coach. His defense choked in Houston. I don't doubt that the franchise is moving in the right direction but I would have waited another year.  There are no salary cap issues if he fails unlike extending Fitz too early but still I don't see the need to extend his contract now.

[Doc]

Just now, Ethan in Portland said:

Yeah, I think I care more about playoff wins than lockerroom hugs. You should too. Good coach. His defense choked in Houston. I don't doubt that the franchise is moving in the right direction but I would have waited another year.  There are no salary cap issues if he fails unlike extending Fitz too early but still I don't see the need to extend his contract now.

 

They would have won if not for the refs.  Big deal anyway.  Houston got smoked the next week and the Bills were never making, much less winning, the SB last year.

[batmanfreek]

4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Yeah, I think I care more about playoff wins than lockerroom hugs. You should too. Good coach. His defense choked in Houston. I don't doubt that the franchise is moving in the right direction but I would have waited another year.  There are no salary cap issues if he fails unlike extending Fitz too early but still I don't see the need to extend his contract now.

I am kind of the same. However I can see the meaning behind it.  Rewarding progress. Telling players and potential free agents that this isn’t a fire a coach every other year; stability. 
 

Also little things like his family knowing “okay we can settle down in Buffalo with school and such”. 
 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

Thank you Jimmy Haslam.

 

 

[Doc]

For those saying it was too soon, it was at-best a few months too soon.  They weren't going to wait until the 2020 season was over to extend him. 

 

And some people keep talking about how easy last season was and how hard this year will be.  Well, it will be hard for every team in the AFCE.  The former division winner, the Cheaters, have been gutted by FA and COVID opt-outs.  The Jets are their usual mess.  Does anyone think the Dols will win the division?  Because the division winner will make the playoffs.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

For those saying it was too soon, it was at-best a few months too soon.  They weren't going to wait until the 2020 season was over to extend him. 

 

And some people keep talking about how easy last season was and how hard this year will be.  Well, it will be hard for every team in the AFCE.  The former division winner, the Cheaters, have been gutted by FA and COVID opt-outs.  The Jets are their usual mess.  Does anyone think the Dols will win the division?  Because the division winner will make the playoffs.

I hope you’re right. I would have waited until after week 12 to see how they’ve played against SF, SEA, and KC not to mention the division games. I also want to see if the game management improves now that he has hired someone to help deal with those decisions. 
 

What’s the benefit of extending him now as opposed to next offseason? Maybe you save some money if he wins 12 games but I don’t imagine you risk losing him. 

[nedboy7]

I think the point in signing him now is to show that the organization believes in him and the job he has done so far, and let him work in a more stable and comfortable environment during a very difficult year.  One less thing for him to worry about. 

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by nedboy7

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, Chemical said:

I hope you’re right. I would have waited until after week 12 to see how they’ve played against SF, SEA, and KC not to mention the division games. I also want to see if the game management improves now that he has hired someone to help deal with those decisions. 
 

What’s the benefit of extending him now as opposed to next offseason? Maybe you save some money if he wins 12 games but I don’t imagine you risk losing him. 

 

What's the harm in extending him now?

 

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Still blaming the refs for the Bills choke I see.

 

Yup.  The men in black jackets coming onto the field was as crooked as anything I've ever seen.

[BillsFan692]

17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Still blaming the refs for the Bills choke I see.

How you not blame refs after that helmet to helmet hit on Allen?

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

How you not blame refs after that helmet to helmet hit on Allen?

 

That's Scott for you. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

44 minutes ago, batmanfreek said:

I am kind of the same. However I can see the meaning behind it.  Rewarding progress. Telling players and potential free agents that this isn’t a fire a coach every other year; stability. 
 

Also little things like his family knowing “okay we can settle down in Buffalo with school and such”. 
 

 

Good points.  I don't think it matters that much to free agents but it cant hurt. I'm not against the extension so much as I think it is premature.

[Augie]

Jon Gruden may not be impressed.

 

But I am thrilled!  We won that contest! I don’t care what he costs. It’s not MY money and it doesn’t hurt the cap. I’m very hopeful for the future of our Bills. 

 

Extend Beane next and we are golden, competitive year in and year out. 

[eball]

39 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Still blaming the refs for the Bills choke I see.

I actually and truly empathize with guys like you. I hope you find peace and comfort someday. 

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

I actually and truly empathize with guys like you. I hope you find peace and comfort someday. 

 

Here's a question: was it better to be screwed over by the refs, or win that game and get destroyed by the Chefs the following weekend?

[batmanfreek]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Here's a question: was it better to be screwed over by the refs, or win that game and get destroyed by the Chefs the following weekend?

I would have loved to have gotten punched in the faces by the Chiefs. Would make the team that much more motivated this year. 

[eball]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Here's a question: was it better to be screwed over by the refs, or win that game and get destroyed by the Chefs the following weekend?

Eh, I don’t think that way. McD’s defense wouldn’t have been blown out by KC and Josh would have had one more game of playoff experience. Motor was coming off his most complete game as a pro also. You always want to win. 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

What's the harm in extending him now?

 

 

Yup.  The men in black jackets coming onto the field was as crooked as anything I've ever seen.

no harm. But the risk is that the Bills continue to lose to good teams. Even if we are 9-3 next year but get blown out by SF, KC, and SEA while being out coached, there’s a good chance we have the next Marvin Lewis on our hands. 
 

edit: 9-3 through 12 games 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Chemical

[Locomark]

Had to work a super long day today but had a giant smile on my face after hearing about Coach McD. Just love his enthusiasm. I would love for him to be our new Marv and end up being that living legend coach than can lead us through 10-15 years of success. I know the odds are always against that but the optimist in me says he has the tools to at least get us to 2 Super Bowls. His main barrier is he needs to work on his game management skills. His decisions can win or lose us a championship, now that we have this level of depth of talent. So he needs to step up and show that on game day consistently. It will get real interesting if you inject a kid kicker that consistently hits 58 yarders also. 

[BillsFan692]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Here's a question: was it better to be screwed over by the refs, or win that game and get destroyed by the Chefs the following weekend?

This is a valid point.  There was absolutely no way we were stopping Mahommes and co. last season... I'd rather save the embarassment and let Texans take it=P 

To be honest, I'm pretty afraid of Mahommes and co THIS season, but I'm just glad my team is in the running finally:)

[longtimebillsfan]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is through 2025. The two years he has left plus 4 more. 

Yes.  I saw that later.  Thanks.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

1 hour ago, BillsFan692 said:

This is a valid point.  There was absolutely no way we were stopping Mahommes and co. last season... I'd rather save the embarassment and let Texans take it=P 

To be honest, I'm pretty afraid of Mahommes and co THIS season, but I'm just glad my team is in the running finally:)

how do you define “ in the running”?

 

vegas odds are 1 in 32 for Bills to win the super bowl this season. 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

I lobbied for McDermott, the year we hired Rex. 

 

I did not want Rex by my guy in that hiring cycle was Hue Jackson (admittedly hindsight does not look good there) because I just wanted to keep Schwartz and hire a glorified offensive coordinator. My second preference was Kyle Shanahan which would have been a little better but Hue was my guy.  

 

By the London game of Rex's first year I wanted him gone and the two guys I thought were the best coordinators in the league were McDaniels (who I didn't want because Belichick always beats his guys) and McDermott. We were lucky the Panthers got all the way to the Superbowl in 2015. It pretty much took McDermott off a lot of teams' lists.

 

It is the first time the Bills have ever hirer the guy I wanted and the first time in fairness the guy I wanted has turned out well... ? (I wanted Mike Shanahan when we hired Chan, I wanted Lovie Smith when we hired Doug and I wanted Hue when we hired Rex). 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Here's a question: was it better to be screwed over by the refs, or win that game and get destroyed by the Chefs the following weekend?

I'd prefer not to hear the stat the Bills haven't won a playoff game in 25 years.  I don't think we would've been destroyed as our defense would've been better than Houston who's secondary was a joke.  I think we lose by 10 to 20 points.  

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Chemical said:

no harm. But the risk is that the Bills continue to lose to good teams. Even if we are 9-3 next year but get blown out by SF, KC, and SEA while being out coached, there’s a good chance we have the next Marvin Lewis on our hands. 
 

edit: 9-3 through 12 games 

 

While I do see that risk.... it is more about whether Josh steps up than McDermott for me. A lot of those games you might put down to outcoached I would argue we have been out quarterbacked more than anything. 

 

And if it does turn out in 3 or 4 seasons that he keeps getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round then we will cross that bridge when we come to it. 

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'd prefer not to hear the stat the Bills haven't won a playoff game in 25 years.  I don't think we would've been destroyed as our defense would've been better than Houston who's secondary was a joke.  I think we lose by 10 to 20 points.  

 

Our defense is a lot better but equally we probably wouldn't have got out to the big early lead Houston did. 

 

I'd have rather been in that game than not though. Without question.

[Doc Brown]

28 minutes ago, Chemical said:

how do you define “ in the running”?

 

vegas odds are 1 in 32 for Bills to win the super bowl this season. 

Last year it was 1 in 1000 so that's a slight improvement.  If Allen takes a significant step forward then we have an outside shot with KC and Baltimore still the heavy favorites.

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Our defense is a lot better but equally we probably wouldn't have got out to the big early lead Houston did. 

 

I'd have rather been in that game than not though. Without question.

I think Bills fans are more worried than most fans when it comes to possibly being embarrassed on national TV.  

[BillsFan692]

40 minutes ago, Chemical said:

how do you define “ in the running”?

 

vegas odds are 1 in 32 for Bills to win the super bowl this season. 

Just by seeing the national conversation shift to giving our team some respect. Most of the talk around the league now refers to the bills as a "team on the rise", "heading in the right direction" and "doing the right things."  Those "non-homer" analysis make me feel like we are finally knocking on the door.

In fact, to crush that narrative a little further, only 6 teams in the NFL have better then 20/1 odds and those include the two previous conference champions one of which is the defending champion, the team with the MVP QB and best record in the east last season,  Tom Brady's team, Drew Bree's team and inexplicably the Dallas Cowboys. 

Anyways I got the bills odds at 28/1 right now for vegas and that's better then half the league (more like top 11) so I'll take those odds. For some reason vegas has some strange teams up there towards the top like the Dallas Cowboys... gtfoh=P 
 

Edited August 13, 2020 by BillsFan692

[Billy Claude]

5 hours ago, Chemical said:

no harm. But the risk is that the Bills continue to lose to good teams. Even if we are 9-3 next year but get blown out by SF, KC, and SEA while being out coached, there’s a good chance we have the next Marvin Lewis on our hands. 
 

edit: 9-3 through 12 games 

 

I don't see Marvin Lewis in McDermott.  The Bengals were always regarded as an undisciplined, out of control team who were always willing to take a flyer on players with known major character issues.  This does not seem to be the team that McDermott/Beane is building (Antonio Brown not withstanding).

 

Also a lot of the blame for the Bengals not making progress has to go to the front office and ownership who were never willing to spend the money they needed to take the next step.  Even then everything may have been different if not for the crucial injury to Carson Palmer.

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Billy Claude
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