Bills to play most of the team vs. Jets including Josh Allen

[Fleezoid]

If resting players will help them tackle better....rest 'em!

 

If playing players will help them tackle better....play 'em!

 

Tackling was horrible agains the Pats. Too many yards after first contact!

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It just feels to me like the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. There are a bunch of guys that absolutely wouldn’t play for me: Josh, Tre, Dawkins, Motor, Morse, Edmunds, Milano, Brown and Beasley. Those guys just don’t have the depth behind them to risk it. 

I probably agree, but when looking at the culture McBeane is trying to build, sitting these guys out says to the rest of the team, (and especially the rest of the starters), "these guys are more important than you"    They are, but do you want to announce it to the world?  I realize you're talking depth,  but I think the optics are bad.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

that’d be ironic if Josh got clocked into outpatient on a needless run 

 

Ironic is NOT the word I would use.  Replace the "I" with two different letters.

[JaCrispy]

5 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Cant see it being more than a quarter. Maybe hes looking for a  td, get a lead, and then everyone sits

Lol if only it were that simple for the Bills offense ?

[row_33]

I guess we don’t control everything from our couch and typing into here

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

I probably agree, but when looking at the culture McBeane is trying to build, sitting these guys out says to the rest of the team, (and especially the rest of the starters), "these guys are more important than you"    They are, but do you want to announce it to the world?  I realize you're talking depth,  but I think the optics are bad.

I feel like a lot of people are giving McDermott the benefit of the doubt because he’s done a great job. Doing a great job and being perfect aren’t the same thing. There is no logic in this decision. Harbaugh has done a great job too and is resting his guys. Being locked into a playoff spot is a reward for a great year. Take advantage of that by making sure you’re healthy in the playoffs. Don’t risk it.

[DuckyBoys]

I can see it from both sides.  It would suck if he sat all the key players and they come out slow in the playoffs  Hopefully no injuries occur More reps in the game cant be bad for Allen  If he did sit I think he might launch his first pass a 100 yards in the playoff game from the pent up anxiety

[Jay_Fixit]

1 hour ago, I am the egg man said:

You're right, thanks.

 

Do I need to go to confession, just went two weeks ago ?

I don’t know what that is. But if you have to confess to something, I’d weigh your options.

[Playoffs?]

Why would he announce this right now???

[row_33]

Just now, Playoffs? said:

Why would he announce this right now???

degenerate gamblers need to know

[YoloinOhio]

27 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

Yup. All the another arguments are based on feelings, not reality (save Yolo’s about contracts but even that falls on deaf ears with me: rest and health is for the betterment of the team moving into the playoffs). 

I didn’t argue anything. I just said we know nothing about who will actually play from his statement because he has no choice but to play the “majority” of the team, which could be 24 guys of 46 based on numbers. The only one he mentioned by name is Allen and with him we don’t know how much but we do know barkley is also playing.  I mean he literally said this:

 

Edited December 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Lurker]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

What do you guys think?

 

I have no problem with it.   

 

Every game is valuable for the young players on this team, even at the risk of injury.     Especially Josh, who needs continuity and consistency more than anything else.   

 

If this were some veteran bunch, like in the SB years, then yes--rest 'em.    But the core of the team are young guys who need to go through the whole range of experiences in their development curve... 

[thebandit27]

They could play the entire game with an offensive lineup of:

 

Barkley

Yeldon/Perry

Sweeney

Duke/Roberts/Foster

Bates-Boettger-Long-Mongo-Ford

 

That would expose only 2 starters.

 

Defensively it's a bit tougher, but you could roll with Stanford and Thompson at LB, and make sure Johnson gets the highest number of reps at DE. Don't bother dressing Tre, and let Marlowe/Neal/Coleman take the safety reps.

[CommonCents]

1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

They could play the entire game with an offensive lineup of:

 

Barkley

Yeldon/Perry

Sweeney

Duke/Roberts/Foster

Bates-Boettger-Long-Mongo-Ford

 

That would expose only 2 starters.

 

Defensively it's a bit tougher, but you could roll with Stanford and Thompson at LB, and make sure Johnson gets the highest number of reps at DE. Don't bother dressing Tre, and let Marlowe/Neal/Coleman take the safety reps.

Thank you for going in depth.

 

McD’s statement is only true by definition. The Bills could protect every player of importance if they so decided. That’s not even debatable and in my opinion they should.

[row_33]

 should get us 20,000 dithering posts by kick off

 

Edited December 24, 2019 by row_33

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, Pokebball said:

McD didn't say how much or for how long.

 

...good call and dead on bud.......gonna have to talk some down from the Peace Bridge railing here now...SMH..............

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

They could play the entire game with an offensive lineup of:

 

Barkley

Yeldon/Perry

Sweeney

Duke/Roberts/Foster

Bates-Boettger-Long-Mongo-Ford

 

That would expose only 2 starters.

 

Defensively it's a bit tougher, but you could roll with Stanford and Thompson at LB, and make sure Johnson gets the highest number of reps at DE. Don't bother dressing Tre, and let Marlowe/Neal/Coleman take the safety reps.

 

Matt might not survive.

 

[Charles Romes]

Love it. Their timing needs improve a notch to be threat to win the whole thing.  Playing is the the only way to give that a chance. 

[TPS]

I hope they try long bombs at least a dozen times; get that shite down!

[Talley56]

The only upside I could see to this is giving Allen a chance to stand in the pocket and practice pocket passing, accuracy, etc.  I hope they are telling him not to run at all even if there is a wide open hole and certainly to go down at even the first sign of contact coming towards him.

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, TPS said:

I hope they try long bombs at least a dozen times; get that shite down!

Yes, with Foster so that Houston has to factor that into the game plan even though we probably aren’t going to him and it frees up Smoke if Foster gets playoff snaps 

Edited December 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Hebert19]

Again guys.   Think of preseason games.  That's what this will be. first couple series for the starters on O then Barkley and duke and Robert's are the main guys and on D guessing star alexander and hughes dont dress and the others play limited amounts. 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said:

I might be in the minority; however, I think it is the right move. 

I like it too.  Our offense isn’t good enough to take a week off.  They need the reps.

[row_33]

Just now, Hebert19 said:

Again guys.   Think of preseason games.  That's what this will be. first couple series for the starters on O then Barkley and duke and Robert's are the main guys and on D guessing star alexander and hughes dont dress and the others play limited amounts. 

you don’t KNOW that....

 

 

[SCBills]

I trust McDermott, but hate this personally. 

[bigK14094]

vinilla offense and defense calls for sure.  Treat that stuff as preseason.  I do like to hear the NY media cry however, so, winning has its benefits.

 

Of course, there is the matter of fans who paid for tickets expecting to see the real Bills........

Edited December 24, 2019 by bigK14094

[Scott7975]

 

You can hear what Allen thinks about it as most of the questions are about it.

[bigK14094]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yes, with Foster so that Houston has to factor that into the game plan even though we probably aren’t going to him and it frees up Smoke if Foster gets playoff snaps 

Against the Pats, Allen went long to Foster once in the end zone....but, Foster was double covered.  He is known to the rest of the NFL as a guy with great wheels.

[purple haze]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t like it personally. There is NO upside imo. What do you guys think?

 

 

I think they should play at least part of the game.  They are a young team.  They need to play and keep getting better.  

[Big Blitz]

I think this means he wants everyone locked in at practice this week. 

 

They'll start but they won't play more than a quarter.  Maybe a half.  

 

For how young we are in key places I don't hate it.  But they better not be in there after the 2nd quarter.  

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

Against the Pats, Allen went long to Foster once in the end zone....but, Foster was double covered.  He is known to the rest of the NFL as a guy with great wheels.

He’s been used minimally on offense all year. Should play a lot Sunday. Which is one advantage of not needing to win this game. He’s probably not going to him in the playoffs. But you never know. Get it on film and pull the D’s focus away from Smoke if possible if they line up him and Foster at the same time. 

Edited December 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Scott7975]

31 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I feel like a lot of people are giving McDermott the benefit of the doubt because he’s done a great job. Doing a great job and being perfect aren’t the same thing. There is no logic in this decision. Harbaugh has done a great job too and is resting his guys. Being locked into a playoff spot is a reward for a great year. Take advantage of that by making sure you’re healthy in the playoffs. Don’t risk it.

Harbaughs team is a well oiled machine.  Our team needs a lot of work.  Stop worrying about injuries.  They happen.  They can happen anytime.  In practice, on the field, in a accident on the way to the stadium.  Jogging down your street.  It doesn't matter if these guys get injured in this game or during the next one.  Same result... player can't play.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The Bills scored 31 points off of their bye week. The whole “rhythm” thing is overrated. That’s why no NFL team plays their starters in the 4th preseason game. Health is WAY more important than rhythm. 

You asked what I thought and then punched me in the nose for answering?   Come on Kirb, it's Christmas! I'm just a guy on a message board killing time! 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Harbaughs team is a well oiled machine.  Our team needs a lot of work.  Stop worrying about injuries.  They happen.  They can happen anytime.  In practice, on the field, in a accident on the way to the stadium.  Jogging down your street.  It doesn't matter if these guys get injured in this game or during the next one.  Same result... player can't play.

They don’t happen if guys aren’t on the field...

 

If there is a 5% chance of an injury (which is a super-conservative estimate) it’s 5% more than they need to take. That’s the point.

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You asked what I thought and then punched me in the nose for answering?   Come on Kirb, it's Christmas! I'm just a guy on a message board killing time! 

Ha ha, Merry Christmas ya filthy animal

[DCbillsfan]

58 minutes ago, row_33 said:

Does this rattle those who have insisted the Bills didn’t really try hard at New Englamd?

 

 

Nope.  No game plan is good if you don't block or tackle.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I see no reason why Allen, Brown, Dawkins, Morse, Feliciano, or White should take a single step onto that field. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I see no reason why Allen, Brown, Dawkins, Morse, Feliciano, or White should take a single step onto that field. 

If josh is playing (as is the plan) then the entire starting OL will also play as long as he’s out there. Morse may not if he’s dinged up but he’s practicing today 

[H2o]

Completely stupid to trot all of the starters out there in an absolutely meaningless game. There is nothing to be gained from this. At this point the team is what it is. We should take advantage of the ability to rest our main guys and let the backups get some work in. 

Edited December 24, 2019 by H2o

[Dablitzkrieg]

They will throw a few bombs and then rest ?

[bigK14094]

Would like to see Duke Williams get some time.....still a big target, something we don't have any of right now.  (yeh, Knox, but he has mostly stone hands, has to leading the team in drops)