Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Looks like good quick play to me. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 They did not show the replay at all on that during the game when it happened. I think everyone just assumed because he was in there so fast it had to be Offside. Everyone was wrong. That was amazing. That should be allowed to be reviewed also. I say review everything until they get it right. Or review nothing. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 He was literally Bruce Smith on that play. No Offside to be found. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 That is wild... I literally had no thoughts of him not being being Offside, but that was just a perfectly legal Super Saiyan explosion off the snap. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stenbar said: They did not show the replay at all on that during the game when it happened. I think everyone just assumed because he was in there so fast it had to be Offside. Everyone was wrong. That was amazing. That should be allowed to be reviewed also. I say review everything until they get it right. Or review nothing. Indeed. I hope they sent that to the league requesting an explanation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 How did he time that so perfectly? I'm watching some werewolf movie right now, and his quickness reminds me of this wolf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Stenbar said: They did not show the replay at all on that during the game when it happened. I think everyone just assumed because he was in there so fast it had to be Offside. Everyone was wrong. That was amazing. That should be allowed to be reviewed also. I say review everything until they get it right. Or review nothing. I remember Bruce Smith getting a playoff sack vs the Bengals and getting called for a face mask just because it looked like that was the only way that was possible. No. He was just that amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, njbuff said: He was literally Bruce Smith on that play. No Offside to be found. Bruce Smith would be called for those same imaginary Offside all the time too. I was at the game and felt like he timed it perfectly. The Steelers homers I were with though convinced me he was clearly Offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Total BS. Just like his phantom “ illegal hands to the face” in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Amazing. Although it evens out when incredibly they didn’t call Dawkins for backpedaling a half second early on a play 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Anybody get a view or replay of the Holding call that stopped the clock in the final minute? Curious to see if it was legit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Anybody get a view or replay of the Holding call that stopped the clock in the final minute? Curious to see if it was legit. Ya haven’t seen it anywhere, you would think being such an important penalty they would have shown a replay on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pbomb said: Ya haven’t seen it anywhere, you would think being such an important penalty they would have shown a replay on tv That was a critical moment. Basically puts the game on ice if not called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Bruce Smith would be called for those same imaginary Offside all the time too. I was at the game and felt like he timed it perfectly. The Steelers homers I were with though convinced me he was clearly Offside. Collinsworth told us it was clearly Offside—nothing to see here. And of course they never showed the replay, probably because Collinsworth downplayed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Garbage Man I love Jordan Phillips 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Total BS. Just like his phantom “ illegal hands to the face” in Dallas. And the phantom face mask called on Edmunds during the Steelers game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Pay that man 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Impressive. Lock him up. He loves us. We love him. Hopefully he not looking to make over 15 mil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, NC Book said: How did he time that so perfectly? I'm watching some werewolf movie right now, and his quickness reminds me of this wolf! Him and Tasker were talking about it on One Bills Live said something about it being lined up with a good view of the center and finding tells for when he's going to snap it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Nope, just like Smerlas getting flagged for the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If you step through the video with as much resolution as you can get, you'll see there is no point at which Phillips is in the neutral zone before the ball is snapped. You know the other teams when they see this film won't care about the officiating BS. They're football people who will see what Phillips did on this play, and they'll be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Honestly, it was about as close as it could be. I slowed it down to frame by frame, and he does move before the ball is snapped, but does not go across the imaginary (and I think that is the key word here) line. I can see why it was called---because of the movement, the video evidence does show he moved before the ball is snapped. And I can see the argument he was not off sides. It is a 50/50 call, this time not in our favor. If it was an opponent that did this, I would easily agree with the call. As a Bills fan, I see it through different lenses. Regardless, he is quick, having a great year, the Bills need to resign him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Amazing. Although it evens out when incredibly they didn’t call Dawkins for backpedaling a half second early on a play Yeah I saw that and was awaiting laundry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Looked like it was timed perfectly live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just keep balling Bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 He's in front of the ball and he timed his reaction perfectly, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Anybody get a view or replay of the Holding call that stopped the clock in the final minute? Curious to see if it was legit. Spain fell backwards and pulled the DLineman down on top of him, right where the RB was tackled. While it was "holding", it literally had zero affect on the outcome of the play. Given the sheer number of times our pass rushers were mugged during the game, there is no reason that call should have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Close. I thought it was perfect timing live when it happened. I understand the call though. Sometimes you have to give a ref a break. The facemask on Edmunds was one of the worst calls I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Spain fell backwards and pulled the DLineman down on top of him, right where the RB was tackled. While it was "holding", it literally had zero affect on the outcome of the play. Given the sheer number of times our pass rushers were mugged during the game, there is no reason that call should have been made. That play was over in the blink of an eye, with no gain or as I recall a loss. Not to get too crazy on this one, but Was he engaged with an o lineman from the Steeler and driven to the dirt, or engaged with one and he reached out and grabbed another defensive player for an obvious hold? It’s just such an odd play to have a holding call when an RB is smothered that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Keep beating offensive lineman off the snap and some buddy is giving you plenty-o-cheddar. Hopefully a home town discount since he loves us so much. Edited December 18, 2019 by Mr. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That play was over in the blink of an eye, with no gain or as I recall a loss. Not to get too crazy on this one, but Was he engaged with an o lineman from the Steeler and driven to the dirt, or engaged with one and he reached out and grabbed another defensive player for an obvious hold? It’s just such an odd play to have a holding call when an RB is smothered that quickly. he was engaged with the defender, who was bulldozing him into the ground, but you can see Spain's arm clearly wrapped around the back of the defender as they go to the ground. Likely a hold as called, because it is technically a hold, but anyone who has ever played football knows Spain wasnt holding this dude, he was holding ON and the defender was driving him into the ground haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Looks like good quick play to me. Is off sides crossing the LOS with any part of the body? Sorry to throw some shade here but ..... Definition. In gridiron football, offside is a foul in which a player is on the wrong side of the line of scrimmage when the ball is snapped. Go to 15 seconds and go a frame by frame. He was moving before the ball was snapped. 7 hours ago, Stenbar said: They did not show the replay at all on that during the game when it happened. I think everyone just assumed because he was in there so fast it had to be Offside. Everyone was wrong. That was amazing. That should be allowed to be reviewed also. I say review everything until they get it right. Or review nothing. 7 hours ago, njbuff said: He was literally Bruce Smith on that play. No Offside to be found. Edited December 18, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: he was engaged with the defender, who was bulldozing him into the ground, but you can see Spain's arm clearly wrapped around the back of the defender as they go to the ground. Likely a hold as called, because it is technically a hold, but anyone who has ever played football knows Spain wasnt holding this dude, he was holding ON and the defender was driving him into the ground haha Thanks, that was my assumption based on what Darin wrote and the way that play played out. Weird time for that flag to fly, but it worked out. Took another 18 months off my life, but whatevs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 That pretty impressive, against the Patriots is where we need that kind of play. Brady with throw up his T12 HGH vitamins all over the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I didn't have a problem with the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Indeed. I hope they sent that to the league requesting an explanation. As well as the "facemask" penalty on Edmunds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, H2o said: As well as the "facemask" penalty on Edmunds. Now that was a Major F... um Malfunction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The TV networks not showing replays of penalties is getting super annoying. Do you think they're trying to "protect" the NFL and its officials? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, H2o said: As well as the "facemask" penalty on Edmunds. Still not as bad as the roughing the passer from the AFC Championship last year. Its going to be hard to beat a QB like that next week ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 To be honest, it looks like he jumps a fraction of a second early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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