AKC Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/security-had-to-save-brittany-matthews-patrick-mahomes-girlfriend-from-patriots-fans/ Decades of empty stadiums following the declaration of Rosie Ruiz that "Boston doesn't care how you win". Nice job Boston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them My experience is that Bills fans are mostly nice to visitors with visiting jerseys etc, and I was a season ticket guy for 30 years. (drunks excepted, but they hate everybody) However, a family member wore his Bills jersey to a game in Pittsburg a while back, and, it wasn't pretty. He had to leave the game because of the abuse from the Pitts fans. I predict things will not be entirely rosy next Sunday night....... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them I travel a lot. Been to NFL games in 12 stadiums. I have been traveling to New England for business monthly for the past 8 years. They. are absolutely the rudest, most entitled, and most obnoxious fans in the country. Every fan base has some bad apples, but New England’s are the worst I have ever seen. You can’t even say something good about another team in hotel bar without some obnoxious jerk making comments. . 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them I can say for a fact that where my seats are, we have a few away fans near us every game because the STH's get primo $$ to sell them. And there is never a problem with opposing fans, even if they are a little belligerent. Also never seen a problem walking in or out of the stadium with opposing fans when there are thousands of people intermingling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them I don't disagree that every fanbase has them. But do you honestly think that the Bills fans are as bad as say Philly or Oakland? I'm highly skeptical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: My experience is that Bills fans are mostly nice to visitors with visiting jerseys etc, and I was a season ticket guy for 30 years. (drunks excepted, but they hate everybody) However, a family member wore his Bills jersey to a game in Pittsburg a while back, and, it wasn't pretty. He had to leave the game because of the abuse from the Pitts fans. I predict things will not be entirely rosy next Sunday night....... I was there with the family once and my 2 girls were young...one dude was being a total douche and the other Pitt fans self regulated and told him to go get a beer and never come back. Was impressed. Net net for every douche there are good hearted fans everywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: I travel a lot. Been to NFL games in 12 stadiums. I have been traveling to New England for business monthly for the past 8 years. They. are absolutely the rudest, most entitled, and most obnoxious fans in the country. Every fan base has some bad apples, but New England’s are the worst I have ever seen. You can’t even say something good about another team in hotel bar without some obnoxious jerk making comments. . This has been my experience as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: My experience is that Bills fans are mostly nice to visitors with visiting jerseys etc, and I was a season ticket guy for 30 years. (drunks excepted, but they hate everybody) However, a family member wore his Bills jersey to a game in Pittsburg a while back, and, it wasn't pretty. He had to leave the game because of the abuse from the Pitts fans. I predict things will not be entirely rosy next Sunday night....... Yinzers gonna yinzer. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: I travel a lot. Been to NFL games in 12 stadiums. I have been traveling to New England for business monthly for the past 8 years. They. are absolutely the rudest, most entitled, and most obnoxious fans in the country. Every fan base has some bad apples, but New England’s are the worst I have ever seen. You can’t even say something good about another team in hotel bar without some obnoxious jerk making comments. . In the same token I have sat around Pats fans in our own stadium and they have been pretty respectful. I don't disagree with what you are saying. A lot of them are rude and entitled, but in my experience there are normal fans as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I was at the last two Bills games in Los Angeles, @ Rams in '16, and @ Chargers in '17. Both opposing teams' fans were very polite. And intimidated. There were lots of us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I don't disagree that every fanbase has them. But do you honestly think that the Bills fans are as bad as say Philly or Oakland? I'm highly skeptical. I have never been to a game in Oakland, but in addition to 130-ish games in Buffalo, I have been to games in Atlanta, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles (Raiders), Minnesota, New York, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Tampa Bay and Washington....14 NFL cities. My opinion on Buffalo may be tainted by the fact that I have been to so many more games there...but I would say Buffalo really does rank on the lower end of "fan behavior". Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New York and Washington round out my bottom 5. That is not to say I don't love the fan base, and enjoy game days in Buffalo more than the rest, but there has been a sort of "anything goes" vibe in Orchard Park for years. I haven't been to a game in Buffalo, since 2014, so it is possible things are a little more under control, but the last few games I went to (granted watching terrible football in bad weather for most of them) I gotta say, I was taken back a bit by how bad things were. For me, an adult male, I never felt in danger, but I would think twice (as my dad did before me, I am sure) about taking younger kids to a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 56 minutes ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them Been to Buffalo games 8 times now. Only 2 times I saw bad treatment was some smart mouth throwing wings at my son in law wearing his Pats cap. Had to tell him to knock off his crap when one missed him and hit my daughter. Other was when a Bills fan threw a Redskin (kid) fans towel down and hit me in the head. Morons will be morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, AKC said: https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/security-had-to-save-brittany-matthews-patrick-mahomes-girlfriend-from-patriots-fans/ Decades of empty stadiums following the declaration of Rosie Ruiz that "Boston doesn't care how you win". Nice job Boston! Is she wearing hockey skates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Pats fans are chauvinistic entitled obnoxious know it alls with big mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them I was at the Ravens game last year and the a holes there were bad to Bills fans. tossing beers at a garbage can and when it sloops beer near us pretend to be sorry with a smug smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Bob in STL said: I travel a lot. Been to NFL games in 12 stadiums. I have been traveling to New England for business monthly for the past 8 years. They. are absolutely the rudest, most entitled, and most obnoxious fans in the country. Every fan base has some bad apples, but New England’s are the worst I have ever seen. You can’t even say something good about another team in hotel bar without some obnoxious jerk making comments. . I worked in massivetwosh*** for a little while near Boston. It was by far the worst place I’ve ever been. The only nice people I met there were from Connecticut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them Bills games are rough to be sure, in particular when the team is losing. I'm not going too in depth with this as it happened a long time ago, and plus I don't want to get banned for telling a horrible story of years ago. I have heard that ownership is trying to clean this up and that friends in family in WNY have confirmed that the game day experience is a LOT better than it used to be. My childhood friend from Buffalo and I bought amazing seats for the Jags/Bills game in 2004. We were finally professional guys and decided to live it up (by getting better seats) but only for a day. Within 10 minutes of getting to our seat an obviously drunken and belligerent Bills fan puked all over a girl (she was wearing a Jags jersey!) who was probably no more than 13. It took security like half hour to get there. So we watch a terrible half of football and decide to pee before heading back out to the tailgate (again, suppressing details to protect the innocent and the guilty). We went up a couple of levels since the bathrooms were packed at our level and a drunken guy who's wearing Zubaz cuts the line, tries to pee in the sink, is shoved, then falls down in pees... in the air. We saw fights heading back to the tailgate. We saw drunken people crashing into the asphalt. From that point on I just go to backers' bars. It's a heckuva lot safer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Buftex said: I have never been to a game in Oakland, but in addition to 130-ish games in Buffalo, I have been to games in Atlanta, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles (Raiders), Minnesota, New York, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Tampa Bay and Washington....14 NFL cities. My opinion on Buffalo may be tainted by the fact that I have been to so many more games there...but I would say Buffalo really does rank on the lower end of "fan behavior". Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New York and Washington round out my bottom 5. That is not to say I don't love the fan base, and enjoy game days in Buffalo more than the rest, but there has been a sort of "anything goes" vibe in Orchard Park for years. I haven't been to a game in Buffalo, since 2014, so it is possible things are a little more under control, but the last few games I went to (granted watching terrible football in bad weather for most of them) I gotta say, I was taken back a bit by how bad things were. For me, an adult male, I never felt in danger, but I would think twice (as my dad did before me, I am sure) about taking younger kids to a game. You've been to far more games at far more stadiums than me and I appreciate the perspective. For the games/stadiums I've been to (mostly the Meadowlands) I agree that taking younger kids to a game is something to think twice about. But are the Buffalo fans that abusive to opposing fans to rank them among the worst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 You wear the wrong colors, you suffer the consequences... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Groin said: Bills games are rough to be sure, in particular when the team is losing. I'm not going too in depth with this as it happened a long time ago, and plus I don't want to get banned for telling a horrible story of years ago. I have heard that ownership is trying to clean this up and that friends in family in WNY have confirmed that the game day experience is a LOT better than it used to be. My childhood friend from Buffalo and I bought amazing seats for the Jags/Bills game in 2004. We were finally professional guys and decided to live it up (by getting better seats) but only for a day. Within 10 minutes of getting to our seat an obviously drunken and belligerent Bills fan puked all over a girl (she was wearing a Jags jersey!) who was probably no more than 13. It took security like half hour to get there. So we watch a terrible half of football and decide to pee before heading back out to the tailgate (again, suppressing details to protect the innocent and the guilty). We went up a couple of levels since the bathrooms were packed at our level and a drunken guy who's wearing Zubaz cuts the line, tries to pee in the sink, is shoved, then falls down in pees... in the air. We saw fights heading back to the tailgate. We saw drunken people crashing into the asphalt. From that point on I just go to backers' bars. It's a heckuva lot safer. I don't go to as many games as I used too. I think you are right, it used to be worse. Edited December 10, 2019 by Process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Went to a Bills/Patriots game in Buffalo this year. I won't ever go to a game in Buffalo again. The combination of idiotic Bills fans and Patriots fans made the game a waste of time. By the end of the game, I was watching the behavior of the fans more than the actual game because we had women and kids with us and there were losers trying to pick fights everywhere around us. I love my Bills, but Bills Mafia = drunken idiots in mass quantities doing stupid *****. Edited December 10, 2019 by BigBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Worst I have ever seen was in KC.... went to a Chiefs/Raiders game with my uncle back in the late 90’s.... Chiefs fans actually torched? a Raiders fan’s car in the parking lot. ?. Freaking insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Pats fans are chauvinistic entitled obnoxious know it alls with big mouths. But other than that, Kid, how do you like them? ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them Go to a Jets game and then comeback and comment. I'll be here waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Starr Almighty said: Go to a Jets game and then comeback and comment. I'll be here waiting I didn't say they were THE worst.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: In the same token I have sat around Pats fans in our own stadium and they have been pretty respectful. I don't disagree with what you are saying. A lot of them are rude and entitled, but in my experience there are normal fans as well. Yes indeed. I was in Buffalo for the Pats* game. There were several Pats* fans in our section and one right next to me with his wife. We talked. They won as usual. After the game he said it was nice to sit next to a nice Bills fan. They are not all bad but many of them are. Edited December 10, 2019 by Bob in STL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Kiva said: You wear the wrong colors, you suffer the consequences... Now that my friends, is an example of why the new stadium will be in downtown Buffalo with restricted tailgating... Edited December 10, 2019 by Don Otreply 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Bob Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I love the Bills and paraphernalia, but I am not going to another city wearing Bills colors, unless as a group 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them When it happens you can be the first one to call Bills fans classless. till then stop sticking up for NE on a Bills board. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzfan37 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I travel a lot. Been to NFL games in 12 stadiums. I have been traveling to New England for business monthly for the past 8 years. They. are absolutely the rudest, most entitled, and most obnoxious fans in the country. Every fan base has some bad apples, but New England’s are the worst I have ever seen. You can’t even say something good about another team in hotel bar without some obnoxious jerk making comments. . I've been to 4 of the last 5 Bills games at Gillette (I live near the stadium) and honestly, it depends on how nice your seats are. Sit in nice, expensive seats and rock your Bills gear and you get treated well) - sit with the farm animals in the nose-bleeds and you'll get treated like you're in a barn by a bunch of drunks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Kiva said: You wear the wrong colors, you suffer the consequences... That's Bull, and it should never be that way. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: That's Bull, and it should never be that way. I once wore a red tshirt in the wrong part of Compton. The locals were not happy to say the least. Territory is a funny thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Billzfan37 said: I've been to 4 of the last 5 Bills games at Gillette (I live near the stadium) and honestly, it depends on how nice your seats are. Sit in nice, expensive seats and rock your Bills gear and you get treated well) - sit with the farm animals in the nose-bleeds and you'll get treated like you're in a barn by a bunch of drunks. I think this true with many NFL stadiums. Heck, I don’t want to sit in the nose bleeds in Buffalo as a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I travel a lot. Been to NFL games in 12 stadiums. I have been traveling to New England for business monthly for the past 8 years. They. are absolutely the rudest, most entitled, and most obnoxious fans in the country. Every fan base has some bad apples, but New England’s are the worst I have ever seen. You can’t even say something good about another team in hotel bar without some obnoxious jerk making comments. . I find the fastest way to get a Patriots* fan to shut up is to ask them their favorite Steve Grogan game. They kind of go into this lockjaw-of-the-brain thing as they start thinking, "Who the hell is Steve Grogan?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Process said: I haven't been to many games in other cities, but if I had to guess I would think bills fans are amongst the worst as far as treatment of opposing fans. Don't think we should be calling out others as being classless. Every fanbase has them Get bent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, bigK14094 said: My experience is that Bills fans are mostly nice to visitors with visiting jerseys etc, and I was a season ticket guy for 30 years. (drunks excepted, but they hate everybody) However, a family member wore his Bills jersey to a game in Pittsburg a while back, and, it wasn't pretty. He had to leave the game because of the abuse from the Pitts fans. I predict things will not be entirely rosy next Sunday night....... This mirrors my experience as a teen at 3Rivers, had my awesome Bills hat stolen by some drunk Steelers fans AFTER already suffering through the Monday night debacle that was the game—talk about classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: I find the fastest way to get a Patriots* fan to shut up is to ask them their favorite Steve Grogan game. They kind of go into this lockjaw-of-the-brain thing as they start thinking, "Who the hell is Steve Grogan?" Or Tony Eason? I’d wager many Patsy fans don’t even realize they had an existence as a mostly crappy franchise reminiscent of the Cardinals or Lions, pre-Bledsoe/Brady. Well durn, I almost can’t remember that either now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 My takeaway from the story is where she said security came and said they "have cameras everwhere" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: I find the fastest way to get a Patriots* fan to shut up is to ask them their favorite Steve Grogan game. They kind of go into this lockjaw-of-the-brain thing as they start thinking, "Who the hell is Steve Grogan?" 3 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Or Tony Eason? I’d wager many Patsy fans don’t even realize they had an existence as a mostly crappy franchise reminiscent of the Cardinals or Lions, pre-Bledsoe/Brady. Well durn, I almost can’t remember that either now Steve Grogan actually had a winning record in new England over a decade 75-60 or something like that and had a few 11 win seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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