Utah John Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 So how tight to the cap are the Texans? If they sign Clowney to the one year tender, does that force them to release players they want to keep? Could be the other GMs around the league are letting the Texans sweat a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: I’ll gladly eat crow on it, but the idea Shady and Zay could be the center piece of a trade for Clowney is utterly ridiculous. It would have to include a draft pick I would think..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Peace Frog said: I'd be okay with Zay Jones & T.J. Yeldon for Clowney. Clowney is a premium football asset. Think bigger! Get creative! Pull John Skelton out of retirement and then trade him to Houston for Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 47 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Hmmm...playing for a likely playoff team or a flaming s##tshow? Decisions, decisions. Oh...and if Clowney is the kind of player who is thinking about the beach during his contract year then the Texans are smart to get rid of him. He's perfect for Miami. Where are people getting this "likely playoff team" from? Pretty much everyone has the Bills projected to be roughly a 7 win team. That's a "team with a shot at a wild card," not a likely playoff team. I understand being a homer, but really, we're getting a little out over our skis here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Just keep in mind that the Texans can ask for the moon and stars, but if no one gives it to them, then what? And don't forget Clowney's say in this. He can control what team he goes to. I think Miami would be idiotic to trade Tunsil here for a one year rental when you know what is what it is.........but I have seen more stupid things done in the league The Bills can only offer what they have......and they do have some assets that are not super stars....and draft picks 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Where are people getting this "likely playoff team" from? Pretty much everyone has the Bills projected to be roughly a 7 win team. That's a "team with a shot at a wild card," not a likely playoff team. I understand being a homer, but really, we're getting a little out over our skis here. This is not a 7 win team.....we have a favorable schedule a good defense and a improved offense. I think it is perfectly ok to forsee a playoff team this year....even if it is just a wild card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Where are people getting this "likely playoff team" from? Pretty much everyone has the Bills projected to be roughly a 7 win team. That's a "team with a shot at a wild card," not a likely playoff team. I understand being a homer, but really, we're getting a little out over our skis here. If we trade for Clowney, lots of analysts will have us as a playoff team. Even some of the ones who never watch Josh Allen, yet are convinced he’s terrible, will concede that our defense makes that likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Where are people getting this "likely playoff team" from? Pretty much everyone has the Bills projected to be roughly a 7 win team. That's a "team with a shot at a wild card," not a likely playoff team. I understand being a homer, but really, we're getting a little out over our skis here. Well, not to make too fine a point of it, but note that so long as we remain strapped in by our ski boots, we should never be able to get out too far over our skis . I think at 10 wins we become likely playoff bound—upgrades at WR and OL alone, provided we stay reasonably healthy in the reg season, should be good for 4+more wins over last year, imho. Edited August 26, 2019 by NoHuddleKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 The only trade the bills made that was ever worth it was the trade for Cornelius Bennett , the only free agent move that was worth it was Bryce Paup...Two out of alot does not say much. I guess you could throw Jerry Hughes in that trade category also , that was pretty much a steel but other than that it's all garbage, keep what you got and Build from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stenbar said: The only trade the bills made that was ever worth it was the trade for Cornelius Bennett , the only free agent move that was worth it was Bryce Paup...Two out of alot does not say much. I guess you could throw Jerry Hughes in that trade category also , that was pretty much a steel but other than that it's all garbage, keep what you got and Build from within. James Lofton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: James Lofton. Frank Lewis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stenbar said: The only trade the bills made that was ever worth it was the trade for Cornelius Bennett , the only free agent move that was worth it was Bryce Paup...Two out of alot does not say much. I guess you could throw Jerry Hughes in that trade category also , that was pretty much a steel but other than that it's all garbage, keep what you got and Build from within. Naaaa there have been plenty Ted Washington James Loften Chris Spielman Bill Brooks A lot more I am sure....these just the top of my head 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Naaaa there have been plenty Ted Washington James Loften Chris Spielman Bill Brooks A lot more I am sure....these just the top of my head For sure! https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2017/01/23/top-11-free-agent-signings-in-buffalo-bills-history/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, Stenbar said: The only trade the bills made that was ever worth it was the trade for Cornelius Bennett , the only free agent move that was worth it was Bryce Paup...Two out of alot does not say much. I guess you could throw Jerry Hughes in that trade category also , that was pretty much a steel but other than that it's all garbage, keep what you got and Build from within. McCoy for Alonso Takeo Spikes And I’d call Hughes more of a carbon fiber composite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Chris Watson was the greatest Bills acquisition ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Just like they said we couldn't get Mario Williams. We won't get Clowney Edited August 26, 2019 by Bills!Win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 12 hours ago, JerseyBills said: This was yesterday , Lombardi said he'd be gone in 24-48 hrs and they want a WR... Interesting I’d give them zay and shaq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Also, there are things called cell phones. Marvel of modern technology. Vot is dis Zeal Fone you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 He's only getting traded if the team that trades for him agrees not to use the franchise tag on him again. The Bills would not be allowed to work on a contract extension during the season. This essentially means the Bills wouldn't be willing to give up much to obtain him. He will remain a Texan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Naaaa there have been plenty Ted Washington James Loften Chris Spielman Bill Brooks A lot more I am sure....these just the top of my head London Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Mark Vader said: London Fletcher You bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 48 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: James Lofton. 45 minutes ago, Pete said: Frank Lewis 40 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Naaaa there have been plenty Ted Washington James Loften Chris Spielman Bill Brooks A lot more I am sure....these just the top of my head I should have clarified my point better, I am not talking about resurrected vet signings, I am talking bonafide your paying the moon with picks or big money free agent signings. Not the OMG I got lucky with a veteran we gave up nothing for or signed for peanuts contract..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Stenbar said: I should have clarified my point better, I am not talking about resurrected vet signings, I am talking bonafide your paying the moon with picks or big money free agent signings. Not the OMG I got lucky with a veteran we gave up nothing for or signed for peanuts contract..... To understand this is to understand the history of the bills Remember....the Pegullas have not always owned this team.....Ralph Wilson (god bless him) but that era was filled with mis management of both free agents and draft picks ......that mismanagment led to bad teams....or the in the middle teams which can sometimes be worse .....no real attempts to get a franchise QB .....no concerted efforts to biuld a dominant offensive line .....cash to cap signing ......bad reputation When you have the above....what you get is players coming out after meeting with the bills practically lauphing when they are met by reporters (I dont remember the player that did this...but he was not even star player....we couldnt get star players to come here) I feel like the bills have really cleaned this up....now they do deals that make sense for the team and STILL get players to come here. but...this is why we havent had franchise guys gleefully forfeiting their checks to play for the bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Have we signed him yet?? Whats the hold up?? Where's that Luck type leak when you need it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Have we signed him yet?? Whats the hold up?? Where's that Luck type leak when you need it !! I think he's clowning us, dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: London Fletcher Sam Adams 36 minutes ago, njbuff said: Chris Watson was the greatest Bills acquisition ever. Who?? 1 hour ago, Stenbar said: The only trade the bills made that was ever worth it was the trade for Cornelius Bennett , the only free agent move that was worth it was Bryce Paup...Two out of alot does not say much. I guess you could throw Jerry Hughes in that trade category also , that was pretty much a steel but other than that it's all garbage, keep what you got and Build from within. Ted Washington Edited August 26, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, MJS said: Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? Off Season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, MJS said: Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? It’s a LAMP started by fake news. Conjecture, innuendo, and smoke screens aren’t worth much. Signed contracts are proof in the pudding. Rumors started by talking heads just feed the appetite of the 24/7 news cycle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, MJS said: Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? Why do we have anything? You ever think about that? Like, really think about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Stenbar said: The only trade the bills made that was ever worth it was the trade for Cornelius Bennett , the only free agent move that was worth it was Bryce Paup...Two out of alot does not say much. I guess you could throw Jerry Hughes in that trade category also , that was pretty much a steel but other than that it's all garbage, keep what you got and Build from within. Wow you’ve missed a lot. Ever here of a guy named Jerry Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, MJS said: Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? pretty sure we had 220 pages of nothing for Mario, so this is pretty mild by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, MJS said: Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? I found a title for the book I plan to write about internet message boards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Wow you’ve missed a lot. Ever here of a guy named Jerry Hughes? While I disagree with Stenbar....did you even read his post?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, iinii said: It’s a LAMP started by fake news. Conjecture, innuendo, and smoke screens aren’t worth much. Signed contracts are proof in the pudding. Rumors started by talking heads just feed the appetite of the 24/7 news cycle. If I was you I'd just stay away from any thread started by yolo since you know he's just a lamp thread starter and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, MJS said: Why do we have 29 pages of nothing? Nothing?! This thread is one surreptitious Randy Constan link away from having EVERYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Clowney is not the savior we're looking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 When the hell is this going to happen? Seems like never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 29 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Clowney is not the savior we're looking for. who's looking for a savior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, nucci said: who's looking for a savior? essentially, everyone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Well, its 5:43 in the morning, where is Adam Shefter?? Edited August 26, 2019 by HOUSE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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