DBilz2500 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: where is the news on Clowney!!!!!! My F5 key is broken at this point. I’m guessing late tonight/tomorrow we hear more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: This is impressive. How many times can you be wrong? I think what he’s saying is, if Allen flames out, it’s bye-bye Beano. (Assuming he meant “drafts a QB in the first round”) EDIT: what someone on the top of this page said. Edited August 26, 2019 by RiotAct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If we do not get him, I will be glad Beane raised the price for Miami. If we do get him, I hope it is for players we don't need and modest draft comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I think it's somewhat possible other teams are getting involved to keep the Bills from getting Clowney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, StHustle said: This thread is averaging almost 1.5 replies per minute and a new view EVERY SECOND. WOW . Yes, I can be a bit of a nerd sometimes. Its like I always say on this board , when the replies hit 500, it ain't happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, buffalo2218 said: I think it's somewhat possible other teams are getting involved to keep the Bills from getting Clowney I don't think other teams are afraid of the Bills, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I think what he’s saying is, if Allen flames out, it’s bye-bye Beano. (Assuming he meant “drafts a QB in the first round”) That's exactly how I read it. Thus, my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Chemical said: How is Zay, McCoy, and a 3rd a bad deal? Its probably still too low, but it’s great value for even just one year of Clowney. and that’s before you consider the possibility of getting a 3rd rd comp pick if he does leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, The Bills Blog said: I don't think other teams are afraid of the Bills, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I think it's somewhat possible other teams are getting involved to keep the Bills from getting Clowney ... Belichick ::shakes fist:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Cant keep up with the thread anymore lol just checking the last comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Texans are supposed to be looking for an OT as part of the deal, so Dawkins would probably have to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Doubt Houston would want this team’s spare parts. It will cost a first or second pick in addition to player(s) before you would see Clowney in a Bill’s uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, billieve420 said: Doubt Houston would want this team’s spare parts. It will cost a first or second pick in addition to player(s) before you would see Clowney in a Bill’s uniform. I’d do a 2nd plus Ray-Ray McCloud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: OK. They were #2 in yards allowed. They were #18 in points allowed. Let's talk about that. They played the #3, #4 (x2), #5, #8, #9, #11, #13, and #15 offenses last year. They were 0-9 in those games and they allowed 247 points in those games. 27.4 points per game. They also managed to lose to the #23 and #26 offenses while surrendering 24 points per game in those games (27 and 21 respectively. The offenses they beat were ranked 19, 23, 24, 26, 27, and 31. What this means, in short, is they lost to every single average or above offense they played last season and also lost to 2 poor offenses. But you're right. I'm revising history to make them sound bad. In reality they were tearing it up. Um ... https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2018 Also, check out opponents’ collective team passer rating against the Bills last season. It is regarded as the most indicative stat of defensive successfor good reason, and the Bills were third, just a hair behind the number two team. As for points allowed, the Bills offense was epically abysmal in every way and put the defense in bad situations all season. That has a huge impact on points allowed. Edited August 26, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I don't think other teams are afraid of the Bills, unfortunately. The Bills already have a good D, McDermott with Clowney might be something other teams don't want. Could be Clowney's way of stepping out of Watt's shadow Edited August 26, 2019 by buffalo2218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Doubt Houston would want this team’s spare parts. It will cost a first or second pick in addition to player(s) before you would see Clowney in a Bill’s uniform. No one's giving up a first for a one year rental with no chance of resigning him until he's a ufa. That would be asinine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, vincec said: Texans are supposed to be looking for an OT as part of the deal, so Dawkins would probably have to be included. No team is trading a starting tackle this close to the season. Lombardi said they are interested to adding a Wr behind Hopkins and Fuller. Now with the devastating injury to Miller they certainly are in need of a Rb. The last 2 you could add Buffalo. They could trade any a Wr or Rb. Go back to what Beane said after they were done spending in FA. Yes, they were done and onto the draft. With the remaining cap space they would be ready if and when an impact player became available. I would put Clowney in that class. Having Gaine in the building, would give them insight on what Clowney was asking. He is a 3 down De. A real difference maker for Buffalo. Will they end up with Idk. Has Buffalo had discussion with them? I bet yes. Are they offering what the Texans want? I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Doubt Houston would want this team’s spare parts. It will cost a first or second pick in addition to player(s) before you would see Clowney in a Bill’s uniform. Well I can ask for a million dollars and no one will give that to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well I can ask for a million dollars and no one will give that to me. You might want to check the “won the lottery thread”. Never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I've got it: Ray-Ray McCloud, Deondre Wesley and Marcus Murphy for Clowney. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mat68 said: No team is trading a starting tackle this close to the season. Lombardi said they are interested to adding a Wr behind Hopkins and Fuller. Now with the devastating injury to Miller they certainly are in need of a Rb. The last 2 you could add Buffalo. They could trade any a Wr or Rb. Go back to what Beane said after they were done spending in FA. Yes, they were done and onto the draft. With the remaining cap space they would be ready if and when an impact player became available. I would put Clowney in that class. Having Gaine in the building, would give them insight on what Clowney was asking. He is a 3 down De. A real difference maker for Buffalo. Will they end up with Idk. Has Buffalo had discussion with them? I bet yes. Are they offering what the Texans want? I dont know. I think Philly would trade Peters today for Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Isn't Clowney a one year rental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Give it up already. They are not trading away assets for a rental that will most likely walk after this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: I hear ya, brother. I hear ya. I've got a serious case of Clowney trade blueballsitis here and need some serious relief. Make it happen, Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I’d do a 2nd plus Ray-Ray McCloud. Could only hope Houston would be so dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Paulus said: Isn't Clowney a one year rental? Sure. But that's okay if you don't trade too much for him. If you could get him for, say, McCoy, Zay Jones and Mike Love. Those guys are expendable on the Bills. But even if Clowney signs elsewhere in 2020, guess what the Bills get? A 3rd round comp pick. We also get one if Shaq goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well I can ask for a million dollars and no one will give that to me. If Dolphin are in on Clowney and Tunsil is available. It would cost Dawkins at a minimum not including potential draft picks for both teams. People talking about guys like Zay Jones being viable compensation is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: That has a huge impact on points allowed. So does never stopping anyone in the red zone. 30th in the league in red zone scoring against in both points per red zone trip and touchdowns allowed per red zone trip. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsdef/2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Give it up already. They are not trading away assets for a rental that will most likely walk after this year The hype train has no brakes. Just go with it, try to have a little fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, billieve420 said: If Dolphin are in on Clowney and Tunsil is available. It would cost Dawkins at a minimum not including potential draft picks for both teams. People talking about guys like Zay Jones being viable compensation is crazy. Zay and a first or second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If you could get Mario Williams level production as we had for the first 3 seasons he was here I’d try to make a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sure. But that's okay if you don't trade too much for him. If you could get him for, say, McCoy, Zay Jones and Mike Love. Those guys are expendable on the Bills. But even if Clowney signs elsewhere in 2020, guess what the Bills get? A 3rd round comp pick. We also get one if Shaq goes. 1. It would depend on free agents Buffalo signs. 2. No chance Shaq Lawson signs a contract big enough to net a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) It just doesn’t seem like it’s Beanes Standard operating procedure to swing for the fences for a blue chip player by giving up significant assets. I don’t see it happening. Edited August 26, 2019 by BillsfaninSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billieve420 said: If Dolphin are in on Clowney and Tunsil is available. It would cost Dawkins at a minimum not including potential draft picks for both teams. People talking about guys like Zay Jones being viable compensation is crazy. I don’t think a single person has said Zay Jones is viable compensation. They have said Shady, Zay, and a pick. Zay is part of the package, yes. Edited August 26, 2019 by CLTbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sure. But that's okay if you don't trade too much for him. If you could get him for, say, McCoy, Zay Jones and Mike Love. Those guys are expendable on the Bills. But even if Clowney signs elsewhere in 2020, guess what the Bills get? A 3rd round comp pick. We also get one if Shaq goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, billieve420 said: If Dolphin are in on Clowney and Tunsil is available. It would cost Dawkins at a minimum not including potential draft picks for both teams. People talking about guys like Zay Jones being viable compensation is crazy. You're right. Tunsil might be more attractive to the Texans. But don't forget Clowney has a say in where he goes. (If he doesn't like a trade, he won't sign his franchise tender.) Maybe he's fine playing for his next contract with a crap team like the Dolphins. Or maybe he'd rather play with one of the top defenses in the league. Clowney has some leverage here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, BillsfaninSB said: It just doesn’t seem like it’s Beanes Standard operating procedure to swing for the fences for a blue chip player by giving up assets. I don’t see it happening. Why do we assume his tear down would be the same as his final moves on a rebuild? what was his interest in Antonio brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, BillsfaninSB said: It just doesn’t seem like it’s Beanes Standard operating procedure to swing for the fences for a blue chip player by giving up assets. I don’t see it happening. He's been waiting for the right time in the build to go all-in and make the big move. Around free agency he kept talking about saving money in case an impact player comes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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