NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MichaelAbdallah said: Are the Jets now trying to out-tank the Dolphins or something? Not sure that even the Jets “brain trust” could answer that question for you at the moment . More of the same please!! This is the kind of divisional competition I can get behind 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: They won’t trade Bell. It makes little sense, plus as you said, they’ve already paid him a ton of guaranteed money. There’s really not a ton of cost savings. Plus, Bell is kind of good, you know? Which is precisely why it could happen under that half baked rudderless clown show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bills fan in 561 said: Unpopular opinion but I dont think Gase is that bad and hes right about not wanting to pay a running back that much money.The Jets were basically building the team like the Bills had been during the drought.To be successful you need to get out of cap jail and spend money on positions that are coveted in said scheme.GM and coach need to be on the same page.We(Bills) are finally building the team the right way but people thought Mcbean went nuts trading Watkins and Darby remember.Those moves where chess moves not checkers moves. I love to jump on the bandwagon and laugh at the tire fire that is the Jets but...ah never mind Gase is ghost face yacked and their doomed lol Whether he is right or wrong about the signing, the fact is that it is over and done. Saying negative things about it at this point in time can't result in anything good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Rocket94 said: Sounds a little half baked to me. Why would we want him? He certainly doesn't seem to be a team or McDermott type player. Besides, I feel the Bills did quite well with Singletary...give this kid a chance. Yes, I am of the opinion that a player that holds out and doesn’t show up for workouts with his new team is not a team player and McDermott would likely not want anything to do with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Bills2ref said: If the Bills were going to give up any draft compensation, wouldn’t they have just outbid the Jets in the first place ? No - even without considering the possibility of Bell not wanting to be here. There is a sweet spot between the compensation Bell got from Jets and the value of the balance salary + draft pick a team wishing to trade with the Jets might pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, ColeB said: Yes, I am of the opinion that a player that holds out and doesn’t show up for workouts with his new team is not a team player and McDermott would likely not want anything to do with him. Right on! I don't believe it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Let me see if I can understand this guy’s logic. The Bills apparently kicked Bell’s tires in free agency, but decided against the sky high contract. But now, they will be willing to part with a high pick AND take on the contract they didn’t like in March? These people get paid to write this crap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Maybe Bell changed his mind since hearing New York isn't legalizing pot anytime soon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 This looks like plain lazy journalism to me. NY sports pundits trying to stir up controversy. And I would assume that if it happened (it won't), then Shady would be gone. But... how hilarious would it be to have an RB roster of Bell/Gore/McCoy? (I put those in alphabetical order, just 'cuz.) Man, the offseason gets whacky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 You all (a/k/a y’all) are concentrating on salary cap and what Laveon Bell wants (or what Gase might want). You need to think about what McDermott and Beane DON’T want: a hold out, self centered, pot smoking (suspended)!knucklehead. This guy is the furthest thing from “process” you could dream up. Don’t waste your time arguing about this fool. Prediction: ACL tear or misses 6 games (lack of conditioning) and less than 1000 all purpose yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I'd trade McCoy and maybe a 3rd. Honestly; I like Bell a lot but how much does he have left in the tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, FluffHead said: He seems like the type to fall off once he gets paid. Pass. I like what we’re building without him. I agree. Shady needs to be the last expensive rb contract. You draft a young guy and hold on to him for 5 years. Then you draft another. 3 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Gase is going to destroy that franchise yes he is and it will be a work of art to watch crazy eyes crumble.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The Bills were “connected to Bell during free agency” only through silly articles like this one quoted in the OP I can’t imagine any chance he comes to Buffalo in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This is speculation of the most speculative, based on rumors Gase wasn't "all in" on the big contract Bell was given. IF the NYJ were to throw $12M down the crapper by trading him before he plays a down, who MIGHT they trade him to. Back to Pittsburgh...and they will have their cake and eat it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billwilliamson/2019/05/20/teams-that-make-sense-for-leveon-bell-if-jets-trade-him/#3c56a519d1e1 I wouldnt give up a first rounder - but a second? Maybe. But only if in the OTAs the Bills feel Shady has lost a step. Five year 40 mill is a steal for Bell. Jets would be foolish to trade him to us - but who else needs him AND has cap space AND draft capital? We aren't interested in this bum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 2nd Round pick to overpay this bum.. God help us.. Edited May 21, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 He missed all of last season sitting out. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a hammy during preseason and winds up being no better than a 6oo yd rusher for the Jets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The jets are dysfunction junction with major malfunctions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 If Bell is really on the block.... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 hours ago, MJS said: Wow, how idiotic would the Jets have to be to trade a guy they just signed (and paid a huge signing bonus) to a division rival? Nobody could be that dumb, right? Right!? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 You gotta love the s*** show the Jets have turned into right now. Absolutely hilarious. Where is Spags at? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Absolutely none of this makes sense. Why would the Jets trade him without playing a down for them and why would they trade to Buffalo? Even the Jets are not that stupid... Are they? Because Gase is the interim GM and it's been widely reported that the GM was fired due to difference of opinion with Gase on moves made. And one of the major differences was signing Bell. Gase doesn't like Bell at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Bills would never do it... he is not a process guy imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Exactly. If the Bills or any other team were interested, they should have signed him. Maybe acquiring him via trade would leave the Jets on the hook for some of the $? Have no idea on that. The TRADE market would be extremely slim. Maybe a 6th or a 7th. Actually - he now becomes affordable for the price most teams seemed to value him at. The Jets paid 12 million of the guaranteed money - that leaves essentially the 4 years and under 40 million or just under 10 million per season - I believe. It actually makes him much more trade-able because his annual cost is significantly lower - I can see a higher round pick (2nd/3rd) for him or maybe more for a team that thinks this moves them to late in the round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: 2nd Round pick to overpay this bum.. God help us.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: We aren't interested in this bum. ....AGREE....ain't enough Excedrin on the planet to cure this headache.......let 'em sufferwith Gase................ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....AGREE....ain't enough Excedrin on the planet to cure this headache.......let 'em sufferwith Gase................ Based upon the Sabres signing Krueger, who also had experience dealing with a soccer organization, what say we suggest Darcy Regier to Johnson and Johnson as the new GM of the Jests?! Let those Gang Green fans really know what suffering is! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Because they pay 12 million guaranteed less. You get him for just 13 million guaranteed! you are not on the hook for the signing bonus. I wonder if that makes him worth a 1st then? You’re basically getting the best offensive player in football for $13 million. That seems like a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, NoSaint said: I’d assume that it’ll be next year that they try to move him. You just can’t justify it this fast The issue is now is in reality about the best time they can move him before 2020. If you play him this year (especially with that o-line and coach) there are 3 scenarios and really none lead to trades. 1. If he plays bad to mediocre (most likely scenario in my mind) - no one is going to want to part with anything of value because he looked bad and is super expensive. 2. If he plays great - just like with Pittsburgh- he will have shown value and the new FO won’t trade him (nor should they) - they just eat the contract because it is done. 3. He plays average - middle of the league - his contract next year is 15 million ( even factoring in the signing bonus - he will be one of the top paid backs coming off an average year - I do not think they get much in options, but maybe they can work a trade (huge dead money for them though) The way I see it for the Jets is they either trade him now before anyone knows what he is like as a player and eat the 12 million to get back salary cap for the future or he is a Jet through the 2020 where they can either cut him or maybe trade to get something small back. One year has very little chance of working unless they blow it up and try to restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Why would Bell want to play for a coach that didn't want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 6 million per and nothing more than a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 i hope we do not make a trade for him for anything more than a 3rd- but if this somehow came to be i would hope we plan to keep him for one year only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I wouldn’t take him but as long as he’s off the jets that’s amazing. If he and Leonard w are gone jets will be terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Peace Frog said: He missed all of last season sitting out. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a hammy during preseason and winds up being no better than a 6oo yd rusher for the Jets. Why? Because he didn't stretch in training camp? He's 400 touches fresher than he normally would've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I'm not a fan of how the backfield looks just based on age, not production. I love the Singletary move in the 3rd round and his game. That said I'm even less of a fan for over-paying a self-entitled jerk whose position does not warrant above replacement level money. I'll take the Bills slightly aged backfield with the new jack in Singletary and hope after this season, the Bills can get younger on the whole. Oh, not to mention Yeldon. To me, Yeldon and Singletary make one heck of a 1-2 punch, plus Gore and Shady. Add in another 4th round RB next year and that's Yeldon, Singletary, and Rookie RB....that'll do. That is a much better plan than paying Bell and his selfish b.s. Hard pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 It could be as simple as Adam Gase being Chip Kelly. It doesn't have to make sense. Or Bell continues to be overweight and out of shape and the team is nervous. There were reports earlier this year he was up to 260+ lbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 10 hours ago, MJS said: Wow, how idiotic would the Jets have to be to trade a guy they just signed (and paid a huge signing bonus) to a division rival? Nobody could be that dumb, right? Right!? Well they were dumb enough to spend $85M on an inside LB with no cover skills, so who knows? Come to think of it, they were also dumb enough to hire Gase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 as fun as it is to think of the jets doing something this insane, i just can't imagine any of this is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, stony said: Why? Because he didn't stretch in training camp? He's 400 touches fresher than he normally would've been. He's also a year older. My point is he may not have taken a season's worth of hits but he's also not in 'game shape'. Just watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Gasse could be irritated about Bell’s avoidance of team activities. He he will probably be ok with it after his first 200 yfs game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 11 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billwilliamson/2019/05/20/teams-that-make-sense-for-leveon-bell-if-jets-trade-him/#3c56a519d1e1 I wouldnt give up a first rounder - but a second? Maybe. But only if in the OTAs the Bills feel Shady has lost a step. Five year 40 mill is a steal for Bell. Jets would be foolish to trade him to us - but who else needs him AND has cap space AND draft capital? The Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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