gobills1212 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Crack is whack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Capco said: Do you know who the new OL coach is? Bobby Johnson, was here under Joe D'Allesandris in 2010. And here is PR on his hiring. Was in Indy last year as Ass't when they retooled their Oline. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-name-bobby-johnson-as-offensive-line-coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 That’s a no from me dawg. lots of amazing options at 9 in a perfect world we package some of the day 2 and day 3 picks for anoth high 1st or low 2nd. 9 is a great spot this year imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Nope What was JoPar_v1 like? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 no we cant be creating a hole. add talent not subtract it right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: What was JoPar_v1 like? Don’t get salty with me for calling a spade a spade. I’m not the one who shut that stupid, unnecessary thread down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Unh uh! No! Beane has done a masterful job in free agency. Stay at nine unless a team makes a drop dead, top of the heap, Wow I didn't see it coming offer. Even then, hold out for more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Don’t get salty with me for calling a spade a spade. I’m not the one who shut that stupid, unnecessary thread down. I don't know what you're talking about. I thought the v2 must mean there was a v1 and I'm wondering what changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Jesus first Glenn now Dawkins? Jesus how about we hang onto our OL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No thanks. It's tempting to be able to guarantee either Williams or Oliver but Dawkins is one of our starting tackles. Right now he is the LT but depending on how the draft goes he might be moved to RT. Q.Williams, Oliver, Jonah Williams, Dilliard, Hockenson or trade down. That's what I would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Man we really need to get this draft over with.. so many “creative” ideas.. They are trying to develop and retain talent at this point not firesale it. There’s zero guarantees you hit on pick 5, definitely zero guarantees you’re getting a tackle of Dawkins caliber past round 1 regardless of what some may think. He may not be elite after last season but Dawkins is quite good and hasn’t peaked yet why get rid of him while he’s on a rookie contract? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 If Williams is there at 5, I'd make the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Sure, a "regressing" JAG really sweetens the pot in a bid to move into the top 5.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Idk how people come up with this stuff. Our Oline was one of the biggest issues last year & we've been working to upgrade it all offseason, because you know, we have a young QB & wish to protect him. So we take one of our brightest young tackles in Dawkins & trade him along with our #9 draft pick for a DT for which this draft class has lots of depth with. It makes no sense. Trade 2 assets which are very valuable in Dawkins & #9, for a DT in which if we just picked the next BPA at DT we'd be getting a good player anyways. This idea would seem to hurt the team more than help it imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, gjv001 said: If Williams is there at 5, I'd make the trade. Yep. All (draft) day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Ya, let's get rid of one of our better linemen. That seems like a good idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Lets try and keep young talent and add to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The Bucs definitely say no. Dawkins isn't that good...they can get a MUCH more impactful player at #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Man we really need to get this draft over with.. so many “creative” ideas.. They are trying to develop and retain talent at this point not firesale it. There’s zero guarantees you hit on pick 5, definitely zero guarantees you’re getting a tackle of Dawkins caliber past round 1 regardless of what some may think. He may not be elite after last season but Dawkins is quite good and hasn’t peaked yet why get rid of him while he’s on a rookie contract? When you say creative do you mean stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Absolutely no. If you’re moving up to 5th you’re obviously not drafting Jonah Williams, so all you achieve is creating a big hole in the O-line and dumping a promising young guy who makes $845K this season, who you already know, for an unknown rookie. In a draft rich with DT talent. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Terrible idea and Dawkins did not have a "regressive" season at all. He graded out right where he finished his solid rookie year. What he didn't do is take the next step and he has admitted as much. What's with people wanting trade decent 2nd and 3rd year players before they reach their ceiling anyways? Thank goodness Beane isn't doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Um, I say no. Dawkins is young, huge and athletic. If he kicks inside or stays at LT, he could be an anchor for us for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Nothing like creating another hole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I had to sign in for this one because I want some of that crack you are smoking.. no way would I get rid of Dawkins to only move up 4 spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, d_wag said: 9th and Dawkins for 5th - who says no? Beane, I would guess. They've done a great job plugging all their major holes. The last thing they would then want to do is open one up at a very important position which is highly involved in the protection of Josh Allen. With no obvious replacement. Edited April 24, 2019 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 So let's get worse at O-Line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Given that the O line was the weakest link of the team last year i don't think it's a good move to trade one of the better players in that room they need to keep the good ones ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I'd rather draft Jonah Williams and plug him in on the left side at LG. It's Dion's job to lose IMO. If he struggles we give Jonah a look at LT and Dion goes inside to guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) If Dawkins is worth moving back 4 spots in the top 10 for the team trading with the Bills, that means he'll be worth a 1st round pick period. Wouldn't make sense for the Bills to give up a player who can protect their young QB. Not saying he IS worth a 1st round pick but moving back 4 whole spots puts his value as a 1st rounder. Plus, what if he actually becomes a dominant player on the O-line. Imagine his worth then. Even then it wouldn't make sense to get rid of him. The Bills have let go of way too many players they've groomed into stars only to let other teams reap the benefits so, NO! Edited April 24, 2019 by HuSeYiN_NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Why trade a left tackle with two years experience for an inexperienced rookie? Doesn't make sense. They like Dawkins. They're gonna challenge him this summer based on his performance last season where he said he became a little too content but he'll be the Week One starter at left tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 This guarantees us one of Josh Allen or Quinnen Williams. Of course I'd do it. But why would Tampa do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Man we really need to get this draft over with.. so many “creative” ideas.. They are trying to develop and retain talent at this point not firesale it. There’s zero guarantees you hit on pick 5, definitely zero guarantees you’re getting a tackle of Dawkins caliber past round 1 regardless of what some may think. He may not be elite after last season but Dawkins is quite good and hasn’t peaked yet why get rid of him while he’s on a rookie contract? ...good assessment........never been a fan of the "addition by subtraction" equation especially when the subtraction is a KNOWN quantity versus the addition being a virtual KNOWN in the pro ranks...remember the "Trade Tre Gang"??.......SMH........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Rally cry for dim ideas rarely works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 No. Dawkins realized he had a sophomore slump and will fix his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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