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9th and Dawkins for 5th - who says no?

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With the oline signings (all 6 of them, including a natural LT in Ty) and the blunt comments on Dawkins regressive ‘18 season (from both himself and the bills) starting to wonder if bills view him as a true 2nd contract guy. Hence knowing the draft chart says making a jump like this in the top 10 is worth a 2nd round value who says no to 9th overall and Dawkins for 5th overall?

 

why the bills like this - they get Williams or Oliver, the dominant 3T this defense needs and is the one position they didn’t address in FA cause I think they really want a stud here to be their kawaan short and that’s hard to find in FA. In this scenario Ty slots in at LT, Waddle at RT, competition and future year starters added at tackle in later rounds (as early as 2nd), bills keep all picks in this deal of course so keeps open option of trading back up to late first

 

why the bucs like this - Dawkins would slot in at RT or RG, both weak spots for the bucs now, and put them in position to still land a stud LB (one of the devin’s) they want in the heart of their D

 

 

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I wouldn’t do it.  Dawkins is a solid player at an important position, despite some struggles last year.

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He is the youngest talented lineman on the roster.  Mitch Morse, Dawkins, maybe Teller or Spain and whoever you draft going forward is your line in two years.  We have done a lot to address the offensive line issues on this team going forward but we don't have the horses to be trading our best lineman by far under the age of 25.  We should keep Dawkins and still draft a lineman on day 1 or 2 imo.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, d_wag said:

With the oline signings (all 6 of them, including a natural LT in Ty) and the blunt comments on Dawkins regressive ‘18 season (from both himself and the bills) starting to wonder if bills view him as a true 2nd contract guy. Hence knowing the draft chart says making a jump like this in the top 10 is worth a 2nd round value who says no to 9th overall and Dawkins for 5th overall?

 

why the bills like this - they get Williams or Oliver, the dominant 3T this defense needs and is the one position they didn’t address in FA cause I think they really want a stud here to be their kawaan short and that’s hard to find in FA. In this scenario Ty slots in at LT, Waddle at RT, competition and future year starters added at tackle in later rounds (as early as 2nd), bills keep all picks in this deal of course so keeps open option of trading back up to late first

 

why the bucs like this - Dawkins would slot in at RT or RG, both weak spots for the bucs now, and put them in position to still land a stud LB (one of the devin’s) they want in the heart of their D

 

 

 

No. Makes ZERO SENSE.  How about letting the young LT become a top LT. 

 

Put it an adequate LG next to Dawkins and watch what happens to him. 

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Dawkins probably missed Incognito; had to play next to the likes  of Ducasse and Teller. A new LG (Spain? Long?) and a new O Line coach should help dawkins  his head straight. he is making less than a million per year to play LT, and is under contract for 2019 and 20. Why give up that kind of value?

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Dawkins value on the open market is maybe a 4th round pick? Team at 5th overall says no.

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No. That's just dumb.

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I say no.

Hes one of the ones I think can continue to get better. 

This team finally has the chance to put a top 5( Yeah, I said it) O line together with a little luck( health) and a good draft. Dawkins is part of that rotation.

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If you throw in Edmunds too maybe we can get to #3.

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2 minutes ago, quincy said:

Could Dawkins be used to obtain Gerald McCoy?

 

 

 

Thats a lot more interesting to me. 

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The idea is an ok one - but it's a no from me.

 

Juan Castillo coached the offensive line last year and I'm entirely convinced he's nightmarishly inept at doing that to a satisfactory level.

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I'm fine with it...Dawkins is highly overrated, and he is not a tackle.  Give me another Josh Allen please at 5.  Risner can be had in the second as an improvement over Dawkins.

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3 minutes ago, Spielman said:

I'm fine with it...Dawkins is highly overrated, and he is not a tackle.  Give me another Josh Allen please ar 5.  Risner can be had in the second as an improvement over Dawkins.

 

So a guy that NEVER has played OT in the NFL and isn’t even a top prospect is better than a two year starter???

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