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9th and Dawkins for 5th - who says no?

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Man we really need to get this draft over with.. so many “creative” ideas.. They are trying to develop and retain talent at this point not firesale it. There’s zero guarantees you hit on pick 5, definitely zero guarantees you’re getting a tackle of Dawkins caliber past round 1 regardless of what some may think. He may not be elite after last season but Dawkins is quite good and hasn’t peaked yet why get rid of him while he’s on a rookie contract? 

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If Williams is there at 5, I'd make the trade.

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Sure, a "regressing" JAG really sweetens the pot in a bid to move into the top 5....

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Idk how people come up with this stuff. Our Oline was one of the biggest issues last year & we've been working to upgrade it all offseason, because you know, we have a young QB & wish to protect him. So we take one of our brightest young tackles in Dawkins & trade him along with our #9 draft pick for a DT for which this draft class has lots of depth with.

It makes no sense. Trade 2 assets which are very valuable in Dawkins & #9, for a DT in which if we just picked the next BPA at DT we'd be getting a good player anyways.

This idea would seem to hurt the team more than help it imo.

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12 minutes ago, gjv001 said:

If Williams is there at 5, I'd make the trade.

 

Yep. All (draft) day.

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Ya, let's get rid of one of our better linemen. That seems like a good idea 

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The Bucs definitely say no.

Dawkins isn't that good...they can get a MUCH more impactful player at #5.

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47 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Man we really need to get this draft over with.. so many “creative” ideas.. They are trying to develop and retain talent at this point not firesale it. There’s zero guarantees you hit on pick 5, definitely zero guarantees you’re getting a tackle of Dawkins caliber past round 1 regardless of what some may think. He may not be elite after last season but Dawkins is quite good and hasn’t peaked yet why get rid of him while he’s on a rookie contract? 

When you say creative do you mean stupid?

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Absolutely no.  If you’re moving up to 5th you’re obviously not drafting Jonah Williams, so all you achieve is creating a big hole in the O-line and dumping a promising young guy who makes $845K this season, who you already know, for an unknown rookie. In a draft rich with DT talent.

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Terrible idea and Dawkins did not have a "regressive" season at all. He graded out right where he finished his solid rookie year. What he didn't do is take the next step and he has admitted as much. What's with people wanting trade decent 2nd and 3rd year players before they reach their ceiling anyways? Thank goodness Beane isn't doing that.

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Um, I say no.

Dawkins is young, huge and athletic. If he kicks inside or stays at LT,  he  could be an anchor for us for many years.

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I had to sign in for this one because I want some of that crack you are smoking.. no way would I get rid of Dawkins to only move up 4 spots

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13 hours ago, d_wag said:

 

9th and Dawkins for 5th - who says no?

 

 

 

Beane, I would guess.

 

They've done a great job plugging all their major holes. The last thing they would then want to do is open one up at a very important position which is highly involved in the protection of Josh Allen. With no obvious replacement.

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Given that the O line was the weakest link of the team last year i don't think it's a good move to trade one of the better players in that room they need to keep the good ones ...

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I'd rather draft Jonah Williams and plug him in on the left side at LG. It's Dion's job to lose IMO. If he struggles we give Jonah a look at LT and Dion goes inside to guard. 

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If Dawkins is worth moving back 4 spots in the top 10 for the team trading with the Bills, that means he'll be worth a 1st round pick period. Wouldn't make sense for the Bills to give up a player who can protect their young QB.

 

Not saying he IS worth a 1st round pick but moving back 4 whole spots puts his value as a 1st rounder. Plus, what if he actually becomes a dominant player on the O-line. Imagine his worth then. Even then it wouldn't make sense to get rid of him. The Bills have let go of way too many players they've groomed into stars only to let other teams reap the benefits so, NO!

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Why trade a left tackle with two years experience for an inexperienced rookie? Doesn't make sense. They like Dawkins. They're gonna challenge him this summer based on his performance last season where he said he became a little too content but he'll be the Week One starter at left tackle. 

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19 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Man we really need to get this draft over with.. so many “creative” ideas.. They are trying to develop and retain talent at this point not firesale it. There’s zero guarantees you hit on pick 5, definitely zero guarantees you’re getting a tackle of Dawkins caliber past round 1 regardless of what some may think. He may not be elite after last season but Dawkins is quite good and hasn’t peaked yet why get rid of him while he’s on a rookie contract? 

 

...good assessment........never been a fan of the "addition by subtraction" equation especially when the subtraction is a KNOWN quantity versus the addition being a virtual KNOWN in the pro ranks...remember the "Trade Tre Gang"??.......SMH........

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No.

 

Dawkins realized he had a sophomore slump and will fix his game.

 

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