LabattBlue Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Wo-Bah said: Man, our backfield is ancient. I don't like it. I liked Chris Ivory. I imagine trying to tackle him, would've been like trying to talk a boulder rolling down a mountain at full speed. Kind of contradicting yourself? If you think the Bills backfield is ancient, I would think dumping a 30 year old RB, and probably drafting a potential RB of the future, would make you happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I think it's funny we actually got older at RB. Honestly though, Gore still can play. We can get a RB any year we want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Because he’s a players player. He’s a workout machine, he’s an ace in the room, and he leads by example. Hes a process guy through and through. you forgot - blue collar, lunch pail and probably a few other cliches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: Not unexpected. Let’s go get one or two young guys in the draft (any round but the 1st.) One in the 3rd and one in the 5th. Gore turns 36 in May. There's no way he has a 4.6 y/a like last year. No matter how improved our oline is. Edited March 26, 2019 by LABILLBACKER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, DCbillsfan said: At the risk of being laughed at, I think Beane is holding onto Ducasse to see if he can trade him. I know it sounds out there but look at John Miller's contract with the Bengals. You never know. He’s gotten surprising value a few times. Ivory? Well, there are limits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Ran hard.........if you needed 2 yards he got you 3.........if you needed 4 yards he got you 3. That about sums it up. Though 3 may be slightly exaggerated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, eball said: Corrected for accuracy! I wasn't referencing you eebs............you have too many sources to be questioned. But ferinstance......Joshallenhasbighands was particularly certain that Ivory was a good signing. Reality check: Among 49 qualifying RB's........Ivory ranked 44th in ypa at 3.3.? Nearly a full yard below the 4.2 league average per carry. How far below league average is the threshold for being a good stopgap at RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, klos63 said: you forgot - blue collar, lunch pail and probably a few other cliches. No cliches, just stating the facts on what he brings. Thanks for offering only snark instead of actual discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: I wasn't referencing you eebs............you have too many sources to be questioned. But ferinstance......Joshallenhasbighands was particularly certain that Ivory was a good signing. Reality check: Among 49 qualifying RB's........Ivory ranked 44th in ypa at 3.3.? Nearly a full yard below the 4.2 league average per carry. How far below league average is the threshold for being a good stopgap at RB? Can't forget about that O line, baby! Of course you knew that. C'mon, Ivory was fine. Made a couple of really big plays in the passing game as an outlet for Josh. Find me a RB who would have run well behind that line last year. I think Jim Brown himself would have averaged around 3.5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: How is gore an improvement over ivory? 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well because he’s 30! If Gore breaks down this year, will anyone be surprised? This is a family board sir! True, but we should consider a ‘Kiddies Table’ forum.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeF said: I fear that Vladimir (Putin) Ducasse and Russell (Jethro) Bodine are to be shown the door next..... From Over the Cap $2.15 Million in cap savings from Ivory $2.3 Million from Bodine $2 Million from Vlad Why fear it? It's called progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Idandria said: Looking back at Ivory’s year as a Bill.. I can’t think of 1 great or memorable play. he didn’t really do much of anything. In a few years I don’t think I’ll even remember he played for the Bills. Wish him the best but his time in Buffalo was almost non existent. Really? I can think of several...2 of them were very long receptions on Allen scrambles...like 50 or 60 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Nice. Gore is a big upgrade over Ivory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Why fear it? It's called progress. "Fear" was sarcastic....;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: True, but we should consider a ‘Kiddies Table’ forum.. ..."PG-13 Forum" sounds more inviting and professional.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Your right- 30 is that magic number. Somehow Gore has defied the odds- I wouldnt be surprised at all if he ran into the brick wall this season. depend on our blocking. Last year. plenty of brick walls to run into ! I expect better play this year Ivory Good solid runner, excellent effort and made some nice plays for Bills. Thought they might wait a bit longer but , as mentioned and as Bills have done under Beane. getting him his best chance to get picked up asap is a decent move from FO. wish him well ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeF said: I fear that Vladimir (Putin) Ducasse and Russell (Jethro) Bodine are to be shown the door next..... From Over the Cap $2.15 Million in cap savings from Ivory $2.3 Million from Bodine $2 Million from Vlad Vlad is dead man walking. No need to cut Bodine until you see who wins the starting jobs. He may be needed as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Wo-Bah said: Man, our backfield is ancient. I don't like it. I liked Chris Ivory. I imagine trying to tackle him, would've been like trying to talk a boulder rolling down a mountain at full speed. Meh. 27 of his 115 carries were stopped at or behind the line of scrimmage. Another 29 were for 1-2 yards. So about 50% of his carries went backwards or barely forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 we are going to trade for Jordan Howard. Calling it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..wonder what their plans are for Murphy & Ford........... Both probably go to camp with a drafted rookie from the mid rounds and I would think maybe even an UDFA. Gore and Shady will take very few reps in TC. I think it's good move on Beane's part to let Ivory go now so he can try to get on another roster for the summer. He was toast the day Beane signed Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I wonder how Ivory got the news of his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Both probably go to camp with a drafted rookie from the mid rounds and I would think maybe even an UDFA. Gore and Shady will take very few reps in TC. I think it's good move on Beane's part to let Ivory go now so he can try to get on another roster for the summer. He was toast the day Beane signed Gore. ..good call CB...and the Taiwan Jones kid who went to IR is a UFA if they see the need for another camp body besides draftee(s).....didn't fare too bad when he played...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Ivory played better for us than I thought he would. Sort of shocked we signed Gore honestly. RB is one area where I think we are a little spastic in terms of the way we are acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..good call CB...and the Taiwan Jones kid who went to IR is a UFA if they see the need for another camp body besides draftee(s).....didn't fare too bad when he played...... Always still a chance like others have just posted that another RB move happens and Murphy or Ford get released. With Ivory gone, when the dust settle on Gaines/Alexander/Fisher $'s get on the books Beane will still have 30 million in cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, gjv001 said: I wonder how Ivory got the news of his release. Cops caught it on video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Ivory was serviceable in our backfield but he had clearly already lost a step and was an easier take down by the time he got here. It was a different story years ago when at the top of his game - a tough no-nonsense fearless downhill runner who I always enjoyed (and sometimes feared) watching him do his thing. I respected him as a player, and still do. Letting him go now makes sense. Even at his age Frank Gore can do anything CI can do and then some. He is simply, and always has been, a much more accomplished runner (and needless to say one of the greatest players to ever haul the rock). Look forward to seeing what the Bills do to replace Ivory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Always still a chance like others have just posted that another RB move happens and Murphy or Ford get released. With Ivory gone, when the dust settle on Gaines/Alexander/Fisher $'s get on the books Beane will still have 30 million in cap. ...Gore is like an old "John Cameron Swazee Timex (check your nightstand drawer)" that just keeps on tickin'.....could be a great locker room presence and excellent mentor for incoming kids..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: One in the 3rd and one in the 5th. Gore turns 36 in May. There's no way he has a 4.6 y/a like last year. No matter how improved our oline is. How about...4.5 y/a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: At the risk of being laughed at, I think Beane is holding onto Ducasse to see if he can trade him. I know it sounds out there but look at John Miller's contract with the Bengals. There is a bit of an age gap to consider. Vlad is 31 and has been a journeyman. John Miller is 25 and showed glimmers of production before Juan Castillo got a hold of him. I doubt Vlad will have any trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, dayman said: Ivory played better for us than I thought he would. Sort of shocked we signed Gore honestly. RB is one area where I think we are a little spastic in terms of the way we are acting. Beane is already on record stating he knew people would question the Gore signing but that he has a "man crush" on Gore since he entered the league. I say if he feels that strongly go for it............it's 500k in guarantees. 14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Gore is like an old "John Cameron Swazee Timex (check your nightstand drawer)" that just keeps on tickin'.....could be a great locker room presence and excellent mentor for incoming kids..... I got one somewhere! LOL. Edited March 26, 2019 by ColoradoBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Figured it was happening. Not sure why the need to do it now. Need 90 for Camp. Figured it would have come after the draft. (Unless I guess they were worried about an Injury and then having to count him) while on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: There is a bit of an age gap to consider. Vlad is 31 and has been a journeyman. John Miller is 25 and showed glimmers of production before Juan Castillo got a hold of him. I doubt Vlad will have any trade value. I agree. Right now Vlad has no trade value but strange things could happen after the draft to make his value go up some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On the one hand I feel bad for the guy, but on the other I'm like "whoo! Some Bills news!" 42 minutes ago, dayman said: Ivory played better for us than I thought he would. Sort of shocked we signed Gore honestly. RB is one area where I think we are a little spastic in terms of the way we are acting. I just think RB is such an easy position to fill now, especially if you have a solid line. All these guys coming out of the mid to late rounds and giving great production. They can grab a guy in the draft pretty easy. It's one area I don't worry about too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: I wasn't referencing you eebs............you have too many sources to be questioned. But ferinstance......Joshallenhasbighands was particularly certain that Ivory was a good signing. Reality check: Among 49 qualifying RB's........Ivory ranked 44th in ypa at 3.3.? Nearly a full yard below the 4.2 league average per carry. How far below league average is the threshold for being a good stopgap at RB? In all seriousness, the Ivory signing goes into the “who cares” bucket. It’s way too insignificant to matter or care about. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, ProcessAccepted said: /thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, dubs said: In all seriousness, the Ivory signing goes into the “who cares” bucket. It’s way too insignificant to matter or care about. Next. If only this had occurred to you when you saw the title "Ivory gone" and thought.........."I must know more". There are some threads where the title says all YOU need to know. I was just busting balls because I had folks telling me yesterday that he was a "good" signing. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: If only this had occurred to you when you saw the title "Ivory gone" and thought.........."I must know more". There are some threads where the title says all YOU need to know. I was just busting balls because I had folks telling me yesterday that he was a "good" signing. Hilarious. Ha! Fair enough, fair enough! ? Mea Culpa: I sometimes click on threads I know will aggrevate me just to say I’m aggravated with the thread. ? Edited March 26, 2019 by dubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said: I liked Ivory's skills as a receiver as he made some good plays. I wish him the best! Yeah, especially that short toss he took for 55 yards. They talked about adding Gore for leadership but I also like how hard Ivory runs. Oh well, bring on a youngster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 RB in the 3rd please (Ol and DL 1 & 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Forward Progress said: The timing feels like it was to give Ivory his best chance to catch on with another team. I've heard Beane talk about the importance of ending on good terms with departing players. This may be another case of this here. Good observation and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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