Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just a thought for whatever it's worth. Saffold is 30. This past season 8 All Pros were 30 or over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t understand why everyone seems to want to move Dawkins to RT. The kid played very well at LT when he had a competent LG and C playing next to him. Taking Jonah Williams (or any other OT) at 9 would be a huge mistake, IMO. Because they heard it once from a talking head vs forming their own thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: I'm a little more hesitant than you are. If I'm going to overspend I would rather do it for a younger player. As it stands he is in a good situation in LA from location, team and coaching standpoint. Obviously, we can pay more but I think he will stay in tinsel town. From what I gather, if he did it would be for much less money because they are telling him to test the market, which means they have no intention of meeting whatever the Bills, Vikings or anyone else do which I assume is pay him what he’s asking 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I find it hard to believe that a guy would leave a team with a young coach and quarterback, that just went to the Super Bowl, while living in suburban Los Angeles, just to rewind his career by a few years and move to a team with a young QB and coach that hasn’t smelled the Super Bowl in two decades and live in suburban Buffalo, NY. But....we’ll see! Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Nihilarian said: One reason Saffold looked so good was that he had a solid LT next to him in Andrew Whitworth, who just decided he would play another year. Surprising really because of Rams center John Sullivan played so poorly in the second half of last year. Kind of interesting that all five Rams linemen played in all 16 games. Anyway, he would be a huge upgrade over what Buffalo now has at LG. Not really at Richie Incognito's level but at 6'5'' 323lbs he should hold his own. Only one hold penalty last year, 4 false starts. ...Jesus, that would be a 1st half total for us on a good day............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Jesus, that would be a 1st half total for us on a good day............ Don’t draft any OL from Ohio state. That’s one series for them. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If they go all in and sign Saffold AND Morse (or Paradis) - Round 1 needs to go to skill positions or D-Line. We have other holes than just the O-Line. If thats the case I think there will still be a couple solid RT prospects in round 2, so Im cool with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Don’t draft any OL from Ohio state. That’s one series for them. ...LMAO! thanks Coach.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I can see him leaving the Rams for greener pastures in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, TheBeane said: I get what you're saying, but why does it have to go one way or another? I still say you go BPA at 9 or trade down or whatever. If that BPA happens to be an O-lineman, take the kid! Our O-line needs as much help as it can get. Giving JA time to throw, and Shady holes to run through will make everyone look better. 5 new players wouldn't be the worst thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I can see him leaving the Rams for greener pastures in Buffalo. Exactly. After a short stroll thru snowbound, deserted downtown today, I’m thinking, why would anyone leave LA for Buffalo? That said, if possible, git’er done. And, btw, who thinks Jonah could not be easily moved to RT or OG? Give JA all the protection you can, and watch him shine. JMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Fix the lines and everything else falls into place. Lets grab a FA center too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, WhoTom said: And like Wade Phillips' son, Saffold knows Sean McVay. ? like, in the biblical sense? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 A failed OT who turned into a really good G. It would be a good signing. I will say the track record of paying big Guys to come to/ stay in Buffalo isn’t great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, GG said: Surprised no one asked if Kromer is also coming with him? Was scrolling waiting to see this, otherwise I would've posted it myself. Wonder how much impact Kromer had on his resurgence as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Ok, but I’ll take a center (Morse) and a Williams or James over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, 315Mafia said: IF the Bills could land Rodger Saffold and Matt Paradis, that would go along way towards solidifying the o- line. then we add Alabama OT Jonah Williams in rd1 and flip Dawkins to right tackle Why do ppl want to keep flipping Dawkins to ORT? HE DID NOT LOOK GOOD THERE......I dont know why.....he just did not when we tried him there. I would rather just keep Dawkins at OLT and get Safford or Paradis/Morse.......trade down......draft Ford OL and pick up an additional pick....then skill position, skill position, skill position 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Good, anything to improve the line. 3 hours ago, WhoTom said: And like Wade Phillips' son, Saffold knows Sean McVay. ? Dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: From what I gather, if he did it would be for much less money because they are telling him to test the market, which means they have no intention of meeting whatever the Bills, Vikings or anyone else do which I assume is pay him what he’s asking The team doesn't have to tell Saffold to test the market because he is going to do it on his own to see what his worth is. He's been in the business long enough to understand how the system works. What he is going to find out is his worth and the difference between what he can get from another franchise and what his current team can offer. Sometimes the offer isn't as great as one's expectations. Saffold isn't an old player but he certainly not on the upside of his career. If the Bills were at a stage in their development where he was one of the few missing pieces on a highly competitive team then I would have no reluctance to overpay for his services. That's not the case with the home team. My point is that he might be able to garner a grand contract on the market but I wouldn't bet that Buffalo would be the place where he got it. As it stands he is in a good situation in LA. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If they go all in and sign Saffold AND Morse (or Paradis) - Round 1 needs to go to skill positions or D-Line. We have other holes than just the O-Line. . sign Morse and Paradise... Miller could use an upgrade if he doesn't want to kick it up a notch, and the other can play center. Love Teller but let these 4 men duke it out for the 2 starting guard and center positions. Draft best OL they can find for RT after getting TJ Gronkenson. Grab up David Sills V also. *Moderator edited for trying to sidestep foul language barrier. No sheets, Sherlock. Edited February 28, 2019 by Chandler#81 Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTalbotBills Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I'd take anything Forbes says with a grain of salt. He throws a lot at the wall hoping for something to stick. Last year he said the Rams were trading for Odell Beckham Jr. and paying him $100 million. That said, Saffold would be a nice get for the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, GG said: Surprised no one asked if Kromer is also coming with him? Probably the only good hire Rex made when he was here. That beach chair-throwing drunk knows how to coach an O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff76ers Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, RyanTalbotBills said: I'd take anything Forbes says with a grain of salt. He throws a lot at the wall hoping for something to stick. Last year he said the Rams were trading for Odell Beckham Jr. and paying him $100 million. That said, Saffold would be a nice get for the Bills. Didn’t he just sign a big deal like last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: I can see him leaving the Rams for greener pastures in Buffalo. $$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Looks like the Bills will be spending close to $40 million of their cap space to sign 3 starting offensive lineman............. and we all should be perfectly fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: He is one of my top priority additions personally. Yeah. Ok. Show me the link where you said this. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I don't want to move Dawkins to the right side. There are plenty of decent RTs available in FA and in the draft, it's harder to pick up a solid LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Yeah. Ok. Show me the link where you said this. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) That'd be huge! I really trust this staffs judgement. I think they solidify the OL/TE positions for years in this draft/FA. Just like they basically solidified their defense in 2 years. This team is coming in 2019 Edited February 28, 2019 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Umm yes please. The $10 doesn't scare me. Sign 3 top lineman. Give them all 5 years at $50m, and give them all $20m year one. We have the room to do it and then after the 1st year, they are all on 4 year deals with $30m remaining. That a $7.5m average. We would have a top OL for Bargan prices for Josh's most important years. Then after this season. We would have a real title shot, right when Brady is done. Filling every hole this year wont work or be a good long term plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 What I don't quite understand is the collective dismissal of virtually every FA purportedly linked to the Bills citing dollar figures as the primary deterrent. We have like 80 mil in cap space. We're going to have to spend it somewhere and we're not gonna find PERFECT players in free agency. Saffold would instantly improve the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I have said it more then once. The skill position players in FA do nothing for me and the college lineman are not being developed properly. Fix the lines in FA and draft nothing but skill players. This draft is loaded with good o linemen. Past years I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I’d be nervous about anyone that experienced a major jump under Kromer. The dude has voodoo magic with coaching guys up. Especially guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, JohnC said: I'm a little more hesitant than you are. If I'm going to overspend I would rather do it for a younger player. As it stands he is in a good situation in LA from location, team and coaching standpoint. Obviously, we can pay more but I think he will stay in tinsel town. They will overspend for one veteran lineman who would be a leader of the o line. They want a leader in every room, and they don't have a leader on the o line. Dawkins is the leader in training. I agree about getting younger guys, but they need a leader. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Ill take Saffold and Daryl Williams and draft the Center that Josh Allen plays with for his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTalbotBills Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Buff76ers said: Didn’t he just sign a big deal like last year? Yes, but it wasn't with the Rams (as Forbes said). Also said the Giants were prepared to make Andrew Norwell the highest paid guard in football. The latter part was expected, but once again he had the team wrong. Perhaps Forbes just has bad sources when it comes to the Giants. There was also this post when he claimed Matt Paradis wasn't well liked in the Broncos locker room... Which was ripped apart by Paradis' former teammates. Like I said, he throws a lot out there hoping something sticks. An earlier post by Forbes said the Bills were interested in Saffold, Glowinski (before he re-signed), Mitch Morse and Daryl Williams. Considering Buffalo's need for OL, he's taking a shot at the Bills landing one of them so he can claim to be first with the news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Sign me up, him and Dawkins would be great on the left side. He’s a little long in the tooth but he can play at a high level for another 2 or 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Nihilarian said: One reason Saffold looked so good was that he had a solid LT next to him in Andrew Whitworth, who just decided he would play another year. Surprising really because of Rams center John Sullivan played so poorly in the second half of last year. Kind of interesting that all five Rams linemen played in all 16 games. Anyway, he would be a huge upgrade over what Buffalo now has at LG. Not really at Richie Incognito's level but at 6'5'' 323lbs he should hold his own. Only one hold penalty last year, 4 false starts. Yep - that is exactly where I am. Saffold was kind of in and out his early years in LA. We shouldn't forget he was drafted to play LT and was pretty much a bust there. He only stayed in LA after failing a medical in Oakland. He has been much better since Whitworth arrived to play next to him. He is not an elite guard by any stretch but he would instantly become the best guard on this roster. I'd still prefer Quinton Spain or Ramon Foster but I'd take Saffold. Saffold and Spencer Long would be immediate upgrades at guard on what we put out there in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I have said it more then once. The skill position players in FA do nothing for me and the college lineman are not being developed properly. Fix the lines in FA and draft nothing but skill players. This can not be stressed enough and let's hope and pray that our front office knows this. Use mid to late rds pks on O-Line that can be developed in time but for now let's add 3 guys in free agency. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Steptide said: 10 million a year though? 10 mil is the market it's not that bad . It's like 7 3yrs ago compared to cap percentage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 hours ago, QCity said: Probably the only good hire Rex made when he was here. That beach chair-throwing drunk knows how to coach an O-line. Sanjay was a really good coach also. Actually the offensive staff Rex had was fantastic. Doesn't get much better then this Roman Lynn Sanjay Kromor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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