Doc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. Good point. We should wait for the video to come out and then laugh our asses off at it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sex slaves Do you need a better reason? That is the only reason this story is so disturbing- otherwise it is simply embarassing but not something worth the effort. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 If Kraft can't be connected to the "sex slave" "sex trafficking" aspect, and was just basically some old guy getting a handjob at the end of a massage, I don't think this is a big deal. If he has deeper involvement, then it may be. Getting a handjob is hardly a big deal. Like, there isn't even an exchange of body fluids. To act like it's some kind of sexual assault is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 This news makes 41 pages and we don’t even know what happened yet. Pretty funny, sad and disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 11:52 AM, NoHuddleKelly12 said: The beginning of the end, karmic wise, of the evil empire?? "Evil" deeds make them stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: If Kraft can't be connected to the "sex slave" "sex trafficking" aspect, and was just basically some old guy getting a handjob at the end of a massage, I don't think this is a big deal. If he has deeper involvement, then it may be. Getting a handjob is hardly a big deal. Like, there isn't even an exchange of body fluids. To act like it's some kind of sexual assault is ridiculous. I think it's more embarrassing that a multi-billionaire can't arrange a better situation than trying for a handy at a chessy strip mall massage joint! You think Tiger, Slick Willy or Trump would be caught dead in a place like that?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: This news makes 41 pages and we don’t even know what happened yet. Pretty funny, sad and disgraceful. We don't know what happened yet...beyond Kraft getting caught paying for sex at a place that uses sex slaves? And yes, Kraft getting caught is funny, while the women being sex slaves is sad and disgraceful. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I think it's more embarrassing that a multi-billionaire can't arrange a better situation than trying for a handy at a chessy strip mall massage joint! You think Tiger, Slick Willy or Trump would be caught dead in a place like that?? It's completely ridiculous. He has a stunning girlfriend...it's weird. I am very interested to see what was going on. For all we know, he just likes to get a good massage after a game of golf, with a handJ thrown in at the end. Edited February 24, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I think it's more embarrassing that a multi-billionaire can't arrange a better situation than trying for a handy at a chessy strip mall massage joint! You think Tiger, Slick Willy or Trump would be caught dead in a place like that?? This is the kind of bipartisanship I like to see! 11 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: It's completely ridiculous. He has a stunning girlfriend...it's weird. I am very interested to see what was going on. For all we know, he just likes to get a good massage, with a handJ thrown in at the end. For every hot woman, there's a man tired of .....her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 oh come on..like 2/3 of TBDers dont do the very same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, BarleyNY said: I was totally expecting some quality satire, but that was either really poorly executed satire or he was serious. I honestly could not tell which. I mean it's just sports satire, not exactly Mark Twain. Think of barstool like the Onion, either it hits or it misses but it just makes fun of hot take analysts on big sports headlines.. so this topic is right up their alley to run something silly with. They're probably making fun of that type of Pats fan that lives in constant denial. And they never really break character. They're caricatures of Skip Bayless types. In this instance probably Bill Simmons since he is super annoying making excuses for Boston teams. Depends on if you know the character I'm sure they'd be a hoot around here if they mocked Bills beat writers. 9 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Lots of TSW members now looking up the meaning of this word "satire". It's not a very popular form of writing round here lol. Granted, sports humor satire is pretty new since the hot take debate shows are relatively new themselves. The best part is it's totally believable to say the most nuclear takes now thanks to the rise in debate shows with purely ratings driven hot takes. Ya like it or ya move on, it ain't Mark Twain. Real take.. These guys demand being made fun of. Edited February 24, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, ColdFront_USAF said: They aren't all like that. Where I live at the moment these kinds of places are pretty common. The girls are all there by choice, and some of the bigger places (soapy bath houses) are run by the Yakuza, so the girls are paid relatively well and go home at the end of the day. It's a totally different situation when people are taking advantage of legal immigrants. They take their passports/visas and essentially force them to stay there and "work". I'm guessing having what is essentially slave labor, including possible child slaves, is what causes the police to justify putting the time and money into investigating this. How would your average perp be expected to know the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, OJ Tom said: It's completely ridiculous. He has a stunning girlfriend...it's weird. I am very interested to see what was going on. For all we know, he just likes to get a good massage after a game of golf, with a handJ thrown in at the end. More than one billionaire is on the list of perpetrators. It's bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Man, this thread is great for identifying all the Pats fans, human trafficking apologists, and HJ afficianados. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: Man, this thread is great for identifying all the Pats fans, human trafficking apologists, and HJ afficianados. I can honestly say that over the years I have NEVER been two of those things. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Augie said: I can honestly say that over the years I have NEVER been two of those things. My exact thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: More than one billionaire is on the list of perpetrators. It's bizarre. Yeah, that is what's so suspicious. If they are involved behind the scenes, you would to think they would have a bit nicer of a venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: How would your average perp be expected to know the difference? No idea, I'm not the expert on run and tugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 20 hours ago, GoBills! said: From his house to here is a solid 40 mins, I thought Ralph was cheap but I guess Robert Kraft wins that title. All in the name to save a few hundred bucks.... These girls average 8 men a day, and they have footage of him in the act since they bugged the place! I hope no one hacks the police archives fir that one.... Probably tired of those high class girls, looking for something risky and seedy. 19 hours ago, Keukasmallies said: How does one face parents, children, spouse and other important people in life after arrogantly claiming to not be involved in an activity when there is video tape of ones direct personal involvement? (Of course, this presumes the accusers are truthful enforcers of the law and not just closet Bills fans trying to stifle guffaws and fist bumping every person in sight.) Wonder how much that sex tape will sell for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Seems pretty normal. What unmarried 77 yo would not want a rub and tug for 60 vs a bunch of fur coats and a Mercedes for 750k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, WideNine said: That was my question...a short private Lier Jet ride and he is in a country where they don't care how he gets his jollies. Perhaps it was simple hubris. Maybe once you have armies of lawyers and tons of money you just start to believe your above getting nailed for same things the common folk get arrested for doing. Maybe the danger aspect was part of the turn on? I mean, why did Wynona Rider go around stealing things from stores when she was a multi millionaire? She had more than enough money to buy everything there. The risk must give them a buzz. The only other possibility I've considered, which is a pretty horrible one, is that he did know they were trafficked and that is part of his thing. Sexual stuff often comes down to men wanting to feel powerful - maybe the idea of him visiting some 'slave' place makes the rich guy feel even more like an emperor. Maybe he has a thing for ancient Rome. Maybe he was dressed as a gladiator? Maximus Kraftus. Edited February 24, 2019 by RobbRiddick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 This is gold ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Is this thread faster at gathering replies than McCoy’s domestic violence thread, or do both lag behind BurpleBull’s anointing of Peterman as saviour of the franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/robert-kraft-trafficking-florida.html?emc=edit_th_190224&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=200676640224 This article answered a lot of my questions. Pretty sick stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Hey, the CEO of Amazon just lost $65 BILLION by having an affair with some ex-local news reporter. Seems to me Mr Kraft found a far less expensive way to get serviced without all the extra baggage. Way to go Robert! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/robert-kraft-trafficking-florida.html?emc=edit_th_190224&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=200676640224 This article answered a lot of my questions. Pretty sick stuff. The shocking thing is that the trafficking charges may not even stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Is this thread faster at gathering replies than McCoy’s domestic violence thread, or do both lag behind BurpleBull’s anointing of Peterman as saviour of the franchise? Well at least in this case, we actually have evidence of wrongdoing. 16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Hey, the CEO of Amazon just lost $65 BILLION by having an affair with some ex-local news reporter. Seems to me Mr Kraft found a far less expensive way to get serviced without all the extra baggage. Way to go Robert! ? It helps if you do this stuff after your wife is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 hours ago, jimmy10 said: Man, this thread is great for identifying all the Pats fans, human trafficking apologists, and HJ afficianados. Are the HJ afficianados fielding questions? Hj’s are weird in that they are always better when you do them on your own. Can we get confirmation on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 hours ago, RochesterRob said: A good reason all by itself but I would bet there is a powerful backer in this as well. They’ve said bigger names are on a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) On 2/22/2019 at 12:38 PM, buffaloboyinATL said: so you don't care about victims of human trafficking? That's a bold statement. I don’t care about kraft. I care what the world is doing to the planet. Edited February 24, 2019 by Helpmenow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: They’ve said bigger names are on a list. That's been refuted. Just Schefter talking out his ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: That is the only reason this story is so disturbing- otherwise it is simply embarassing but not something worth the effort. I agree. But still a guy this rich it’s pure stupidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 12:40 PM, formerlyofCtown said: Kraft and Nabisco are owned buy the tabacco industry last I knew. I’ll buy that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Doc said: That's been refuted. Just Schefter talking out his ass. If your social circle is wall street, it was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Doc said: That's been refuted. Just Schefter talking out his ass. Actually seen some other names listed that might be considered "bigger" names amongst other circles. Ex-CEO of CitiGroup for one, off the top of my head. Edited February 24, 2019 by BuffAlone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: If your social circle is wall street, it was true. What percentage of the population does that apply to: 0.001%, if even? Kraft is far and away the most well-known name on that list. 41 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Actually seen some other names listed that might be considered "bigger" names amongst other circles. Ex-CEO of CitiGroup for one, off the top of my head. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Doc said: What percentage of the population does that apply to: 0.001%, if even? Kraft is far and away the most well-known name on that list. See above. Well known in the general public's eyes maybe, but big time bankers, etc still may be considered bigger names to the upper ruling class and even in the eyes of the law. Either way, I hope they nail ALL the bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Doc said: What percentage of the population does that apply to: 0.001%, if even? Kraft is far and away the most well-known name on that list. See above. Certainly for this board.... The COO of Citicorp is a big name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I haven't kept up on this, but are they accusing Kraft of having had Special Massages or giving Special Massages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The COO of Citicorp is a big name. So that’s why I keep getting phished by Citicorp to provide my (nonexistent) account information. To provide ‘Buddy’ with ‘fringe benefits’! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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