Doc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Certainly for this board.... The COO of Citicorp is a big name. Yeah, like you knew John Havens name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, like you knew John Havens name. I think you understood the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, GoBills! said: Also the original report mentioned 4 girls being ages 13-18, that has disappeared, I wonder if its beacause of the high profile list, for the girls protection or if it was miscommunication. Not a miscommunication. 11 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: How would your average perp be expected to know the difference? I think you're laboring under the impression that this kind of human trafficking shop (with underage slaves) is uncommon. It's not. It's horrifyingly common - ESPECIALLY for certain "elite" segments of the population. Kraft sought this place out because it catered to his desires for specific women and privacy. There are powerful people who get off on this (and worse) - and use it to their benefits (through blackmail and profiting directly from the industry). 3 hours ago, teef said: The shocking thing is that the trafficking charges may not even stick. See above. The political class (state and federal) have a stake in keeping the trafficking flowing and operating because many of them are involved, implicated, or profiting from it. Trafficking has been a scourge for decades - but no one every REALLY publicly discussed it to the point of making it a national conversation until recently. Ask yourself why or how that could be if this problem is so wide spread. The answer will enrage you. Edited February 24, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Watch the movie “Taken” and you’ll understand what under age trafficking is all about and how widespread this disgusting crap is worldwide. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, teef said: The shocking thing is that the trafficking charges may not even stick. Unless there is a startling revelation yet to be made the court action will be of minimal impact to Kraft. The much larger issue is the PR damage that is created by having the Kraft name associated with the NFL. The NFL is already at a point where it does not want the Kraft name to come up during a Pats broadcast. For CBS it will be like having to amputate an arm but necessary when you think about the camera panning to Kraft's suite after a Pats TD or Nance talking about the intimate conversation he had prior to the game with Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, njbuff said: Watch the movie “Taken” and you’ll understand what under age trafficking is all about and how widespread this disgusting crap is worldwide. Except there is no one man army to beat these guys down in the real world. But Taken will give you some idea as to how nauseating the real problem is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Except there is no one man army to beat these guys down in the real world. But Taken will give you some idea as to how nauseating the real problem is. Unless they’re black, then Liam Neeson got em! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Whoever the health inspector was that picked up on the clues leading to shutting this down deserves a medal! I’d pitch in for a nice “thank you”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 15 hours ago, OJ Tom said: If Kraft can't be connected to the "sex slave" "sex trafficking" aspect, and was just basically some old guy getting a handjob at the end of a massage, I don't think this is a big deal. If he has deeper involvement, then it may be. Getting a handjob is hardly a big deal. Like, there isn't even an exchange of body fluids. To act like it's some kind of sexual assault is ridiculous. If you think all he got was a handjob.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Whoever the health inspector was that picked up on the clues leading to shutting this down deserves a medal! I’d pitch in for a nice “thank you”. A medal?! After the CSI bunch got done compiling results from the blue light test, a 55 gallon drum of disinfectant is in order. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: A medal?! After the CSI bunch got done compiling results from the blue light test, a 55 gallon drum of disinfectant is in order. ‘.....that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Augie said: ‘.....that too! Have to start thinking of some snappy Horatio Caine quips suitable for the occasion. “Clean and jerk doesn’t mean the gym in Jupiter, Frank”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I'm sure that Mr. Kraft, out of the goodness of his heart, was at that massage parlor solely to award one of its workers with a sizable check so she could continue her education. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I'm sure that Mr. Kraft, out of the goodness of his heart, was at that massage parlor solely to award one of its workers with a sizable check so she could continue her education. So that's what Philanthropist' do ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: So that's what Philanthropist' do ? He got an extra 3rd round compensatory pick for it too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hill Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I’d pay cash ? money to see video of MR Kraft in a diaper shaking a rattle asking to be spanked ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, JD Hill said: I’d pay cash ? money to see video of MR Kraft in a diaper shaking a rattle asking to be spanked ? Hey.....if that’s your thing.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: So that's what Philanthropist' do ? Philanthropist..on, for an extra C note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I'm sure that Mr. Kraft, out of the goodness of his heart, was at that massage parlor solely to award one of its workers with a sizable check so she could continue her education. I hear that's just a product of The Patriot Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I think people on here might be jumping the gun the list of people whose name will come out- while Kraft will likely be the " biggest" to most i bet they will release a few politicians names befpre this is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Jussie Smollett just tweeted that Bob Kraft was tied down to the massage table by some Redneck sex workers wearing Rams gear against his will. Poor old man! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: 'Tuck' is a shill, and a moron, but feel free to carry on....... Sorry didnt mean to trigger you.feel free to go to your safe space. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 The arrogance of this guy. You would think he would lay low for one day. This was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The arrogance of this guy. You would think he would lay low for one day. This was yesterday. The Patriot* Way. And the fans take it to new and even greater heights! I mean, almost like they were football players or billionaires..... . Edited February 24, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hill Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Augie said: Hey.....if that’s your thing.... ? ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 11:27 AM, Alphadawg7 said: Hahaha yeah I posted it cuz I thought it was funny. But title of thread is just the same title of the link. So technically not misleading, just accurate title of the link I shared hehe Alphabet - all good with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I’m shocked an old creepy guy who is trying to be “hip” pays for sex. Shocked. I feel bad for the women who have to touch that old bag (and I’m not talking about Robert). It will be real interesting to see to see what the nfl does here because it made headline news and is super embarrassing to the league. 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: The arrogance of this guy. You would think he would lay low for one day. This was yesterday. Rich guys in America believe regular laws don’t apply to them. Pay some money and everything will go away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 And as night must follow day, today we're getting the blitz of stories about Kraft and his 'deceased wife' and 'millions to charity'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’m shocked an old creepy guy who is trying to be “hip” pays for sex. Shocked. I feel bad for the women who have to touch that old bag (and I’m not talking about Robert). It will be real interesting to see to see what the nfl does here because it made headline news and is super embarrassing to the league. Rich guys in America believe regular laws don’t apply to them. Pay some money and everything will go away. Even if he didn’t know before what was going on at Orchids of Asia in terms of human trafficking - and was just there for the cheap thrills - he obviously knew as of Friday when the news came down. And gives the impression that he couldn’t care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, nucci said: If you think all he got was a handjob.... What did he get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: What did he get? Seriously....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: What did he get? Apparently there is a video.....and I pray to God I never see that short film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Kraft still denies visiting the spa even though Jupiter, FL police have film on him visiting twice. How dare anyone question Lord Kraft. https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-kraft-apos-categorically-apos-175714403.html U.S. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft has “categorically” denied soliciting sex at a spa in Florida after police said he was filmed doing so twice. Mr Kraft, 77, faces two counts of soliciting sex from a prostitute. The billionaire is one of two dozen men who were arrested for allegedly paying $59 (£45) for a half-hour and $79 (£60) for an hour of sex at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida. “We categorically deny that Mr Kraft engaged in any illegal activity,” his spokesman said in a statement. “Because it is a judicial matter, we will not be commenting further.” Mr Kraft, whose football team recently won its sixth Super Bowl championship, was one of more than 170 people arrested in south Florida during a police sweep on prostitution and sex trafficking, according to a Jupiter police affidavit. Police said on Friday that the women involved were “working long hours and engaged in oral and manual sex acts”. Jupiter police chief Daniel Kerr said Mr Kraft as subject to misdemeanour charges based on two separate alleged visits to the spa. “We have two,” Mr Kerr said, regarding the two counts of soliciting sex against Mr Kraft. “Two different visits. … We’re as equally stunned as everybody else.” Detective Andrew Sharp said the billionaire was caught on surveillance video. “The question was, does the video contain Mr Kraft inside receiving the alleged acts. The answer to that is yes,” Mr Sharp told reporters during a press conference on Friday. There is an arrest warrant from Mr Kraft with the state attorney’s office and it will be sent to the Patriots owner’s home in Brookline, Massachusetts. The National Football League issued a brief statement following the news of Mr Kraft’s sex solicitation charges, saying it is “aware of the ongoing law enforcement matter and will continue to monitor developments”. Jupiter police officer O’Neil Anderson said: “Kraft was a shock. It was really just a shock to have a human trafficking ring working out of a storefront in quiet Jupiter.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Augie said: Apparently there is a video.....and I pray to God I never see that short film. Yeah, but what's in it? Nucci says he knows... The indication from the police is that it was either a BJ, or a HJ. I think tying Kraft to what goes on at the place behind the scenes at this point, is jumping to conclusions. Edited February 25, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) ? Edited February 25, 2019 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, OJ Tom said: Yeah, but what's in it? Nucci says he knows... Nobody knows much yet, other than a large number of women have been and are still being horribly abused. What did Kraft “know”? We have no idea. Did he know it was human trafficking? I’m sure he will argue that never occurred to him. What should he have known, suspected, or questioned? I wonder if he just didn’t want to know. I’ll let things play out. I’m not the judge here, just a distant witness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Oh, man. I just saw interviews with a group of Pats fans about this. Total cartoons. We’re WINNAHS, that’s why they’re comin’ after us! #7 next yeah! So glad I’m a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I think you understood the point. Not really. Havens and the other guy Childs are only "names" because they're billionaires who, like Kraft, you would think would have better sense than to get caught doing something like that. But neither is a "name" anywhere close to Kraft, especially among Schefter's target audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Augie said: Nobody knows much yet, other than a large number of women have been and are still being horribly abused. What did Kraft “know”? We have no idea. Did he know it was human trafficking? I’m sure he will argue that never occurred to him. What should he have known, suspected, or questioned? I wonder if he just didn’t want to know. I’ll let things play out. I’m not the judge here, just a distant witness. I met a girl that worked at one of these...a college student, paying her way through school. Plenty of people just on this board didn't know anything about the human trafficking aspect of the massage parlors, so why should Kraft? I'm curious to see if there are any indications that he wasn't just another customer (despite his wealth and status) getting HJ at a local massage parlor...that's a misdemeanor. These places are almost all connected to a nail salon next door, with the same owners and likely with the same employees... should the women that patronize these nail salons know better, and know they are supporting human trafficking, and be condemned? Edited February 25, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: I met a girl that worked at one of these...a college student, paying her way through school. Plenty of people just on this board didn't know anything about the human trafficking aspect of the massage parlors, so why should Kraft? I'm curious to see if there are any indications that he wasn't just another customer (despite his wealth and status) getting HJ at a local massage parlor...that's a misdemeanor. These places are almost all connected to a nail salon next door, with the same owners and likely with the same employees... should the women that patronize these nail salons know better, and know they are supporting human trafficking, and be condemned? Kraft isn't your average customer. And was that girl you met giving handies at the end of her massages? I doubt it. It's typically the places where sex is offered that use sex slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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