sodbuster Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: "Worried about this being moved to PPP"." Seriously? What a HUGE worry to have. Your opinion of my comments is noted and disregarded. PPP clearly operates under a different set of rules than the main board. I'm sure I'm not alone in my belief that a thread about the owner of a rival team should stay on the main page. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Kraft will skate. It's not like he knelt to protest police brutality or anything. That would be criminal. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 This is really, really bizarre. Multiple billionaires getting busted over $50 handies? How did the cops get their names and birthdates? Were they paying with credit cards? How did the cops get video access? Unusual for the perps to be the main target of a massage parlor bust, they usually just shut the place down, arrest the owners, and send the johns home. But this was a full-on sting with the customers seemingly the main target - this is all just super weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: THIS. He can have them come to him with ultimate discretion through payment and non disclosures. It makes no sense for him (or anyone with his notoriety or money) to visit a place like this. What am I missing That was my question...a short private Lier Jet ride and he is in a country where they don't care how he gets his jollies. Perhaps it was simple hubris. Maybe once you have armies of lawyers and tons of money you just start to believe your above getting nailed for same things the common folk get arrested for doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said: Kraft will skate. It's not like he knelt to protest police brutality or anything. That would be criminal. ? Funny part is, the guy that knelt still won in the end. I don't underestimate what the NFL will do to not look bad in public eyes. Edited February 23, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Being this has over 33,000 views currently I wonder if this will be the most viewed thread on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Being this has over 33,000 views currently I wonder if this will be the most viewed thread on this site I don't know, I think the Mario thread went over 100 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Are people on the TSW that scared of PPP? It's not the wrong side of the tracks after dark..... Or is it...? No one who’s ever ventured in has come out the same.. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Chandler#81 said: No one who’s ever ventured in has come out the same.. Same could be said for the game day threads.... 16 minutes ago, sodbuster said: I don't know, I think the Mario thread went over 100 pages. According to the archives, Mario thread has 635,350 views.... jeez. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 19 hours ago, PIZ said: The PGA players all live in Jupiter FL. Kraft was charged with paying for sexual services at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter FL. Supposedly someone more important than Kraft was charged too. Thought it might be one of these PGA guys. How about the boyfriend of a LPGA player? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/johnny-delprete-boyfriend-of-lpga-star-jessica-korda-arrested-for-soliciting-prostitution-in-florida-sting/ar-BBTZcUf?ocid=spartandhp 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: How did he not know this place was involved with sex trafficking (as reported) IF (as you guessed) he knew the owner? "Hey Bob, I got some fresh talent in today, right off the slow boat from China. Let me get them hosed off and you and you millionaire buddies come on over later for some R&T." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 No big earth shaking deal, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, whatdrought said: https://www.foxnews.com/us/wall-street-billionaire-ex-citigroup-president-caught-up-in-prostitution-sting-that-ensnared-robert-kraft?fbclid=IwAR39cALDh_eHZ8vRZ3IlfhgOTN7EODBZzlwnFIlHhASne1kvz_duRVB5qzM More big names being released. None that I know, but definitely some big time people. Big time people you know they know the ins and outs of what was going on there. Their own little fun hobby. The richer you are the weirder ***** you are into. Edited February 24, 2019 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: This is really, really bizarre. Multiple billionaires getting busted over $50 handies? How did the cops get their names and birthdates? Were they paying with credit cards? How did the cops get video access? Unusual for the perps to be the main target of a massage parlor bust, they usually just shut the place down, arrest the owners, and send the johns home. But this was a full-on sting with the customers seemingly the main target - this is all just super weird. I live within a half mile of this place, my door to door is 3 mins and thats with the gate house. They started pulling the johns over after they left orchid for traffic stops and questioned them, some confessed, then they clearance to install cameras, I remember that night because they blocked it off like the bomb squad but only the one office space. So they had cameras and would get the vehicle tags and ID the drivers. Also where Kraft lives once you drive over the palm beach bridge the cameras scan your plate and check for warrants, bad tags, insurance etc. They have cops sitting on the island waiting for people to drive over the bridge. Kraft was taken by his personal driver so easy to identify in palm beach island then again here in Jupiter. Also the original report mentioned 4 girls being ages 13-18, that has disappeared, I wonder if its beacause of the high profile list, for the girls protection or if it was miscommunication. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: BTW, one needs to watch die hard Bills fan Jeff Glor lead off his newscast last night on CBS with this story. will post if I can find it. This one? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/orchids-of-asia-day-spa-jupiter-police-describe-deplorable-conditions-at-spa-in-robert-kraft-sex-sting/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, GoBills! said: I live within a half mile of this place, my door to door is 3 mins and thats with the gate house. They started pulling the johns over after they left orchid for traffic stops and questioned them, some confessed, then they clearance to install cameras, I remember that night because they blocked it off like the bomb squad but only the one office space. So they had cameras and would get the vehicle tags and ID the drivers. Also where Kraft lives once you drive over the palm beach bridge the cameras scan your plate and check for warrants, bad tags, insurance etc. They have cops sitting on the island waiting for people to drive over the bridge. Kraft was taken by his personal driver so easy to identify in palm beach island then again here in Jupiter. Also the original report mentioned 4 girls being ages 13-18, that has disappeared, I wonder if its beacause of the high profile list, for the girls protection or if it was miscommunication. That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? Sex slaves Do you need a better reason? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sex slaves Do you need a better reason? Yeah, prostitution is one thing, this is something closer to pure evil. It deserves all this attention, and more. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? It seems like they hit multiples throughout Florida at the same time? I wonder if they consider it one big network or something like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sex slaves Do you need a better reason? A good reason all by itself but I would bet there is a powerful backer in this as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: A good reason all by itself but I would bet there is a powerful backer in this as well. Like.....God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Like.....God? God to bring it to its knees but some kind of major financier that put that operation together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: God to bring it to its knees but some kind of major financier that put that operation together. It’s law enforcement. Human trafficking is an enormous issue. What could be worse? The one they shut down in Orlando was in the hood, not full of billionaires. I don’t think there is a billionaire benefactor who is behind these stings. It’s the police doing their jobs. We pay taxes to make this happen, and I’d pay more if we could eradicate such horror. (And I’m kinda cheap!) It’s like drug stings where they take down 20-30 people at once. It’s a scourge and needs to be dealt with. You build the case, then you lower the hammer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s law enforcement. Human trafficking is an enormous issue. What could be worse? The one they shut down in Orlando was in the hood, not full of billionaires. I don’t think there is a billionaire benefactor who is behind these stings. It’s the police doing their jobs. We pay taxes to make this happen, and I’d pay more if we could eradicate such horror. (And I’m kinda cheap!) I think he's supposing that a billionaire might be behind the establishment that got busted, hence the prevalence of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: I think he's supposing that a billionaire might be behind the establishment that got busted, hence the prevalence of it. I don’t know, it wasn’t clear to me but I read it the other way. I don’t think any billionaires deal with anything quite this dirty. This makes the drug cartels like like Girl Scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s law enforcement. Human trafficking is an enormous issue. What could be worse? The one they shut down in Orlando was in the hood, not full of billionaires. I don’t think there is a billionaire benefactor who is behind these stings. It’s the police doing their jobs. We pay taxes to make this happen, and I’d pay more if we could eradicate such horror. (And I’m kinda cheap!) It’s like drug stings where they take down 20-30 people at once. It’s a scourge and needs to be dealt with. You build the case, then you lower the hammer. You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am saying that it may be a wealthy individual or individuals that put this brothel together along with others in Florida. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: I don’t know, it wasn’t clear to me but I read it the other way. I don’t think any billionaires deal with anything quite this dirty. This makes the drug cartels like like Girl Scouts. Oh, I think you could be surprised by that. Depravity doesn't measure bank accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sex slaves Do you need a better reason? They ALL use forced labor - something about this particular establishment caught law enforcement’s attention, enough to do a full stakeout with pre-installed cameras etc. This cost time and money and was clearly a law enforcement priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: Oh, I think you could be surprised by that. Depravity doesn't measure bank accounts. When you look at guys like Bill Gates you don't think about them involved in this kind of stuff but when you look at billionaires from other parts of the world you never know. The kind that think people are commodities to be traded like oil or wheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am saying that it may be a wealthy individual or individuals that put this brothel together along with others in Florida. Sorry for misunderstanding. Whatever the deal is, I hope they get to the bottom of it and everyone gets what they deserve. What could make a person think that they could do that to someone else. I don’t know how these things are structured, but I know it’s FAR too common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? It wasn't just this one in the sting, there were 10 in all, with almost 300 "clients". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They ALL use forced labor - something about this particular establishment caught law enforcement’s attention, enough to do a full stakeout with pre-installed cameras etc. This cost time and money and was clearly a law enforcement priority. Going by what was said at the top of this page I would say clearly under age girls being forced to work there. Sick as it may be there was a ring busted in NY looking for women over age 18 that looked much younger "for modeling" several years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. Edited February 24, 2019 by BillsSB2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? Odds are that is not the only area that was targeted. It's just the first to involve some big names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. I get what you are saying but the Jupiter authorities have already stated that Kraft will be charged on Monday. Podunk law enforcement agencies don't pursue hit or miss cases involving a billionaire. The DA and probably those above the DA did their homework to levy whatever charges they have planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. I think enough information has already come out to be appalled. I don’t know who’s guilty, and of what, be we KNOW appalling actions have taken place. I’m not condemning anyone, just saying everyone needs to be held accountable as they deserve. I try very hard not to judge, because that’s not my job. I just hope for justice, whatever that may look like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. That would literally be no fun at all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: That would literally be no fun at all... But, I heard this is the No Fun League, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They ALL use forced labor - something about this particular establishment caught law enforcement’s attention, enough to do a full stakeout with pre-installed cameras etc. This cost time and money and was clearly a law enforcement priority. They aren't all like that. Where I live at the moment these kinds of places are pretty common. The girls are all there by choice, and some of the bigger places (soapy bath houses) are run by the Yakuza, so the girls are paid relatively well and go home at the end of the day. It's a totally different situation when people are taking advantage of legal immigrants. They take their passports/visas and essentially force them to stay there and "work". I'm guessing having what is essentially slave labor, including possible child slaves, is what causes the police to justify putting the time and money into investigating this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: No big earth shaking deal, really. I think Mr Kraft might disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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