Cripple Creek Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I thought that given the overall lack of talent that Robiskie did a decent job, esp. with Foster. But perhaps that wasn't him, and/or Dabol wants a different person. Yeah, he didn't have much to work with so this is surprising to me. Maybe something to do with Benji's piss poor attitude and even worse play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Welp- that’s two WR coaches fired in 2 years Poor musician that blames the instrument. Terrible wrs...but it's the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Do you really think they are just firing guys without a plan for a replacement? They just might have a better guy ready to take the job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Poor musician that blames the instrument. Terrible wrs...but it's the coach. It's possible the guy is difficult to work with, and McDermott / Daboll wanted to go in another direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Just now, PIZ said: It's possible the guy is difficult to work with, and McDermott / Daboll wanted to go in another direction. Why would you think that? Edited January 3, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: New WR and ST coach.....Steve Tasker Steve Tasker is alarmingly unintelligent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 My gut feeling is that this was Robiskie's decision. Zero factual basis for that, but at his age, maybe he just wanted to retire to Florida or something as opposed to being a position coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 There was a major shift in the WR room halfway through the season so maybe that didn't bode well for the coach as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 LOVE IT!! Complete overhall on the O coaching side of the ball......good! Cant get any worse from what we saw mainly in the 1st part of the season to say the least.....but yes keep Daboll in his 2nd year.....lets see how he does with the new personale.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Utah John said: Looks like Robiskie is taking the fall for Kelvin Benjamin being a fat, lazy bust of a player. It wasn't Robiskie who traded for Benjamin and anointed him the #1 WR on the team. Robiskie had very little to work with talent-wise, but did get some of the younger guys going, which could pay off in years ahead. Daboll probably wants his own guys, and he should have them. Seriously, why do people really care who we have as positional coaches? Fans have no idea if they are good or bad. OC and DC should have the ability to bring in the coaches they want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Made it sound like it was his choice to not return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I dont entirely agree with this given the complete trash we had at WR. Obviously nobody knows how he was like behind the scenes i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I don't think Crossman gets released unless McBeane have a clear upgrade targeted, and know he will accept the position. That is the ONLY reason I can imagine for not taking any action to address the steaming pile his unit left on the field more often than not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) I could've sworn I heard something before the season began, that Robiskie was only going to be here for the year. It may have been on one of those "behind the scenes" videos that the Bills put out in the preseason. Edited January 3, 2019 by Bad Things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, DJB said: I dont entirely agree with this given the complete trash we had at WR. Obviously nobody knows how he was like behind the scenes i guess As some have pointed out Culley has spent more years as a WR coach than a QB coach. We have no idea how much he may have contributed to helping develop some of those young WRs. Hard to know what goes on behind the scenes, but seems like they had some overlap for this role and felt they could move on. I think that considering what they had to work with that the WR unit did pretty well, but we have no idea who was most responsible for that development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Palmer would have to take a major cut in pay to become an NFL position coach. Yep I don't think Palmer wants to leave his cushy situation. If Culley moves the recievers, the guy to get is Rob Chudzinski in my opinion. He'd be a good get to work with Josh Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 How.much money would it take.to get James Lofton out of that CBS analyst job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: How.much money would it take.to get James Lofton out of that CBS analyst job? Great player, but do we know he can coach? Pegs can certainly afford him, but that’s a pretty easy gig he’s got now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, WideNine said: I don't think Crossman gets released unless McBeane have a clear upgrade targeted, and know he will accept the position. That is the ONLY reason I can imagine for not taking any action to address the steaming pile his unit left on the field more often than not this year. You would be an upgrade over Crossmam. There wasn't a worse ST out there. You name the mistake, the Bills did it. Did the Bills block one kick this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, NewDayBills said: He knows more about football than me. Sorry. I've read your work here and I'm not buying this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Great player, but do we know he can coach? Pegs can certainly afford him, but that’s a pretty easy gig he’s got now. He coached out west..but he still hangs out with the Super Bowl gang,maybe Thurman can convince him,Lord knows,that fella can talk.Odds are slim and none that it would happen...it's nice to think about though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: How.much money would it take.to get James Lofton out of that CBS analyst job? Look at you trying to improve our WR coaching AND the broadcast booth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I don't care one way or another on this one. But does anyone think a different WR coach was going to get better performances out of KB and Zay? KB mentally checked out. Maybe one day the reason will be determined. As for Zay, he has had two maybe three games where he looked ok. Other than that he has been a major bust. One would think Zay could learn to catch a ball all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, clayboy54 said: Do you really think they are just firing guys without a plan for a replacement? They just might have a better guy ready to take the job! Well I guess that depends on what you mean by a plan? Yes I'm sure they have a few guys in mind. But no I don't think they have necessarily already picked the successor. Then again Daboll was hired only a couple of days after Dennison was let go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 McD's coaching staff is becoming a revolving door now with Dennison, Castillo, Robiskie, and perhaps Crossman axed in 2 seasons. Not to mention Frazier (at least temporarily). His coaching picks on offense have been underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Palmer would have to take a major cut in pay to become an NFL position coach. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Give them mediocre talent and expect what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Foxx said: i dunno about that. you have seen and heard him on NFL broadcasts, right? I kept confusing him with William F Buckley 45 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I don't care one way or another on this one. But does anyone think a different WR coach was going to get better performances out of KB and Zay? KB mentally checked out. Maybe one day the reason will be determined. As for Zay, he has had two maybe three games where he looked ok. Other than that he has been a major bust. One would think Zay could learn to catch a ball all on his own. no robiskie has to teach him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Welp- that’s two WR coaches fired in 2 years Yes they should have kept Sanjay Lal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Thanks for the article. Read the third from last paragraph. Foster credits Robiskie. Whereas at Alabama, Foster was mostly asked to simply outrun defenders, he credited Bills position coach Terry Robiskie for helping him learn to become a well-rounded receiver. 3 hours ago, CNYfan said: Wow, look at that!! I didn't now those were NFL lows. They should include the dead space as well for WRs cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: You would be an upgrade over Crossmam. There wasn't a worse ST out there. You name the mistake, the Bills did it. Did the Bills block one kick this year? I understand the feeling, and I am not sure how Crossman is able to survive ...it is truly baffling. Particularly with the McBeane tandem, as resting upon past laurels does not seem to be their thing when doing coach evals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: True No cap limits on coaches, but I’m sure there are some CBA limitations on practice time. Therefore, maybe he’s better used in the offseason without CBA limitations? I feel like Josh is a hard worker who will give it all he’s got to learn the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 They are likely announcing this in order of evaluations, with McDermott and Beane telling the coaches in person before announcing it. If we haven't heard an official release on Crossman I suspect he hasn't had his exit interview yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: These coaches really need to learn how to get more production out of the dead cap.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: They are likely announcing this in order of evaluations, with McDermott and Beane telling the coaches in person before announcing it. If we haven't heard an official release on Crossman I suspect he hasn't had his exit interview yet. The Jest still have all of fired HC Todd Bowles' assistants under contract. I'm hoping that whoever they hire as their new HC cleans house and the Bills go grab ST coach Brant Boyer...assuming that the Bills do not retain Crossman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 So why is none of this listed on the Bills website? Crossman should have been the first to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: I don't care one way or another on this one. But does anyone think a different WR coach was going to get better performances out of KB and Zay? KB mentally checked out. Maybe one day the reason will be determined. As for Zay, he has had two maybe three games where he looked ok. Other than that he has been a major bust. One would think Zay could learn to catch a ball all on his own. I'm likely out of my depth, but I actually think Zay is somewhat of a try-hard who really really wants to succeed. I think a coach who resonates with him would see results. Edited January 3, 2019 by NickelCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Rather have Palmer available to Josh all year round vs what ever time is allowed by the cba. Pipe dream. Palmers not leaving his lucrative business to coach for the Bills or any other team. Fans just think magically a guy will take a job if offered enough money. Not true, some guys have no desire to coach in structure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Maybe they slide Culley to WR coach and bring in Palmer to work with Allen. I cant see this happening but we can get Defilipo he defintely would be a upgrade over Culley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 12 hours ago, wppete said: Interesting...... overhaul is underway on the offense. I hope the don’t get rid of Dabol. Keep the system and bring in some young bright coaches. For Allen's development, continuity is important. Yes, keep Dabol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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