Warcodered Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I understand addition by substraction, but that's really not going to be the case here. We are adding Ray Ray McCloud and losing Benjamin. We now have no one the defense even considers a threat. I hated KB and his ***** attitude, and if I thought for one second that he was bringing the team down with it, I would agree it's addition by subtraction. But it clearly hasn't. These guys all work their ass off but him. But 31 GMs in the league would still rather have Kelvin Benjamin and all his baggage versus Ray Ray McCloud and all his first names. We have no size, no experience, no one the defense has to be concerned about and our best WR was the worst WR in the whole league last year. He's getting better but he dropped a pass early in the game that was a first down, ran the wrong route in the endzone on a sure TD, and dropped a perfect pass on the five yard line that would have all but won the game in the last minute. I think it's probably a move made with there being no real shot at the playoffs and no intention of bringing either of those guys with the team next year. So might as well get more reps for the young cheap guys that will be fighting for jobs in the next preseason camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Where were you for Mario Williams last season as a Bill and then the next season with the Dolphins? Even he was not this bad. I am talking should not be on the field even as a backup bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Even he was not this bad. I am talking should not be on the field even as a backup bad How does literally playing pattycake along the line of scrimmage with the OLineman and avoiding any contact not qualify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You're probably correct. But his salary is fully guaranteed. "I'd rather pay you $2.1M to leave the building than see you on the field in our uniform, ever again" is a fairly strong statement. Doesn't look so bad when Sam Bradford made a guaranteed 15mil with the Birds. He sucked and you reap what you sow. Also makes me believe even more he told Allen he didn't want to take throws before one of the early season games. This one is on Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyellowred Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: That's the problem with guaranteeing contracts. They need to rid this in the CBA and its only valid in case of injury. Why this fat-ass loser WR is able to pocket 2.1million to do nothing, while the rest of America works their ass off for less than 5% of that salary is what is wrong with sports. I don't care if someone gets paid good money, but they have to earn it. 5%? Try 0.5%, like me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Croom could take his WR spot and we'd improve the speed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Yesterday, McDermott was asked about Allen's INT and he said Allen got fooled, but "we're going to have to trim some of the fat off that route" run by Kelvin Benjamin. That's the closest I've ever heard McD come to taking a direct shot at a player. It was thinly veiled, but it was a definite shot. And well deserved. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Beebe Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, eSJayDee said: As it's already been brought up, my initial aversion to dumping KB was the comp pick formula. However, you only get picks if you're a net loss in players. Considering that we've got piles of cap space & likely won't be losing any expensive FAs (I don't think retirements count & I can virtually guarantee K Williams isn't signing elsewhere & Alexander I'd say is low probability, too), I don't think it's likely that we're aiming/likely to acquire comp picks. I don't think getting rid of Kelvin would be considered a loss of a player. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 #13 doesn’t like the cold, just look at him. Tampa, Miami or jville suits his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 << standing and clapping enthusiastically >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Glad that POS is finally gone....lookin like a very feminine predator. Maybe Clay will follow soon enough. My friends and I call him the Tranny Predator. So glad he is gone, long overdue. Also, glad Beane sees his mistake in trading for this bum and flat out cut him. It actually speaks volumes about the FO whom can realize a mistake and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Guessing they are prioritizing youth and attitude over compensation atm. i dont think they would get any comp picks anyway if go after all the free agents they need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Here's another black mark on the McBeane legacy! Bring in their boy Benjamin only to unceremoniously dump him after a very disappointing stay in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Would love it if McD would open up and give us the straight scoop on these moves, but it will be a bunch of coachspeak. Still, it's pretty obvious he needed to go, 6 minutes ago, Looper said: Doesn't look so bad when Sam Bradford made a guaranteed 15mil with the Birds. He sucked and you reap what you sow. Also makes me believe even more he told Allen he didn't want to take throws before one of the early season games. This one is on Beane. And Beane is owning it, kudos for that. If this was a Whaley product/regime, KB would remain out there for 99% of the snaps. I jest, but still IMO rare to see an ego check at the door at OBD Front Office through the years like this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Here's another black mark on the McBeane legacy! Bring in their boy Benjamin only to unceremoniously dump him after a very disappointing stay in Buffalo. Would you be more happen if he hung onto him and gave him a new contract? For christ sake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Here's another black mark on the McBeane legacy! Bring in their boy Benjamin only to unceremoniously dump him after a very disappointing stay in Buffalo. So much draaaama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Good to see that Bills are willing to move on from their mistakes. KB and Holmes were two wasted spots on the 53 man roster. Hopefully they can bring in a couple players with potential to the practice squad. Edited December 4, 2018 by richardb1952 spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 49 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Good. They need all day runners at the position with JA at QB. Hey, KB was an all day runner. As in it took all day for him to run his route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I think it's probably a move made with there being no real shot at the playoffs and no intention of bringing either of those guys with the team next year. So might as well get more reps for the young cheap guys that will be fighting for jobs in the next preseason camp. Yep. I don't mind the move at all. I applaud it. I was sick of him a few games ago and I stuck up for him more than most. But good riddance, and I want the guys like Foster and Zay and McKittrick to get more reps and balls, too. It's a good move. But it doesn't make us a better WR unit. Ray Ray is a second rate Isaac McKittrick, who is third rate. Small, shifty and talented who cannot hang onto the ball. Let's hope this experience, since we are out of the playoffs, somewhat rids them of the dropsies (meaning mostly fumbles). We don't know this for sure but if we are still in the playoff hunt at all, I don't think they do this (otherwise they would have done it weeks ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 WTH took them so long to send him on his way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 KB was probably one of the worst acquisitions the Bills have made in the past 40 years. I have to say they got swindled! About the only excuse I can think of for KB was that injury he took vs the Chargers in the Peterman INT fest game greatly affected him. Other than that he had a bad attitude and appeared to be really lazy. In addition he failed in so many clutch situations. Good riddance!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 About time. See ya K Bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Video never lies and what KB put on display for personnel execs to look at might result in nothing more than a 1 year “prove it” deal for league minimum. It effort was disgraceful while also illustrating he has little understanding of the importance of each individual route to the passing scheme. Good riddance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, matter2003 said: What are you talking about? The NFL is the ONLY league where the contracts AREN'T guaranteed other than the bonus money. Look at the NBA and MLB if you want to see REAL issues with players taking money...and not $2.1 million...try $50 and $60 million in some cases after they have become scrubs... Or the case of Bobby Bonilla, who collects $1.19 million a year from the Mets (every July 1, from 2011 to 2035). It's part of a deal deferring the $5.9 million the Mets owed him from the 2000 season, a year in which he didn't play for the team, because they released him in January. Bonilla's agent worked out a deal that deferred payment (with an 8 percent annual interest rate). Pretty shrewd move. http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/125162/happy-bobby-bonilla-day-his-annual-1-19-million-payday-is-here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Commonsense said: Christmas comes early. I’m glad they made a point to release KB, his level of effort is an insult to the rest of the lockeroom. I recall one play where Allen scrambled to the left and there was only Benjamin and a DB. KB's pathetic attempt at blocking led to the DB making the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: Video never lies and what KB put on display for personnel execs to look at might result in nothing more than a 1 year “prove it” deal for league minimum. It effort was disgraceful while also illustrating he has little understanding of the importance of each individual route to the passing scheme. Good riddance. I think he just gave up on the team early in the season with Nate. There were moments with Josh that he actually played pretty hard. The game Josh got hurt he had two great long catches with 100% effort and defenders all over him. There were flashes of effort but way a piece of crap as far as being a teammate. Half the routes he was running lazily, which is intolerable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think KB was playing not to get hurt....... This worked out well for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Who is the backup C? Any practice squad additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) mike catalana just said on the news the amount of catches vs. the amount of targets, kb was dead last in the league for wrs. i think a new thread would be ok guessing who they will bring up/sign? im wondering if they bring gentry from the bears' p.s. Edited December 4, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It took about 5 weeks too long, but McDermott finally made a statement. I'm a tad disappointed that - of all people - Beane and McDermott couldn't see this coming. But burns happen and they got burned. At the end of last season, I loved KB. He played hurt and looked like he was all heart. Man, was I fooled. He's been a bum since this season started. Just glad his tenure here is over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Good with both. Holmes is a fringe NFL talent. Benjamin is going to break down. The Panthers came to the same decision as the Bills: need to get more speed on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well OK then but who are we putting on the field? Do you have any plans for next weekend? Couldn’t be any worse if, you know, you at least try. That would be a step in the right direction! The locker room knew the deal with KB. He had to go, or at least sit. Keeping him inactive would have suited me, if only just to shame him. (Can he be shamed?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bopper2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 KB was the Bills version of Ville Leino. when KB goes to the zoo, the elephants throw peanuts at him. he doesn’t catch any though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: This move does, however, take us from having the worst WR corps in the league to having the way worst WR corps in the league. I would argue it does the opposite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: It took about 5 weeks too long, but McDermott finally made a statement. I'm a tad disappointed that - of all people - Beane and McDermott couldn't see this coming. But burns happen and they got burned. At the end of last season, I loved KB. He played hurt and looked like he was all heart. Man, was I fooled. He's been a bum since this season started. Just glad his tenure here is over. Something happened - I have no idea what. I’ve never seem anything quite like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Something happened - I have no idea what. I’ve never seem anything quite like that. Would of rather kept O'Leary and punted Clay off the team but we don't have any fresh meet to fill Clay's spot Youth Movement is on! go bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I would argue it does the opposite. Indeed. It frees up a WR slot for someone with "want it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Yolo some of the best news you could deliver today!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 You know the next thing that is gonna happen is Ray Ray is going to have a 100 yard passing game and everyone is gonna be pissed we played KB for so long..... Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Yolo some of the best news you could deliver today!!!!! Good Bot with the Good news! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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