Niagara Dude Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. IDt he's focused on running. Its just a part of his game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. Not to sound like McDermott but we will probably have to see the tape to see how often he prematurely escaped the pocket. I think based on the eyeball test he did great and did what he had to do to win the game. I loved his game today. I think with a few more pieces on the line and in the WR corps Allen will be even better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Im ok with the no 300 yd thing. But I also don't want to see him talking the hits I find it funny that Allen comes back and Zay disappears again. I need to understand the gameplan. McKenzie looks intriguing I will admit 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Don't be a bogart Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) Ummm he threw a lot of good pass's, Thompson dropped one and penalties killed a few, quit looking at the stats Edited November 25, 2018 by Degenerate Mike in HHDS 17 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. An Allen hater attempting to come to grips with their wrong opinions. 8 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTF Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He will pass more with better receivers and a better offensive line. Right now the quality of options at the wide receiver position and at the TE are just not great. The line also doesn't quite give him enough time. Today was a great start. He has a very bright future. Has all the tools. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. Seems to work just fine for cam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Ummm he threw a lot of good pass's, Thompson dropped one and penalties killed a few, quit looking at the stats Great throw 35 times next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: Great throw 35 times next week Yah sux when we win 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I was critical of Allen running too much prior to this game. But I thought he did great today. Some of the passes he threw were awesome (even the ones dropped and negated by penalty). That’s all I needed to see... that he can make some world class throws, and he can. As he develops more the running will slow down and the passing numbers will increase. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Thompson just got here They didnt seem to be on the same page on a few throws No clue what happened with Zay Jones Hes MIA but then again they didnt throw that many passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. well...while i see your point, i have to disagree. this kid is running for first downs and touchdowns. moving the chains and scoring points. of course you want him to thread the needle and hit his receivers rather than risk bodily harm. but you cannot argue this kid's will to win. the rest will come. he wants to win and will do anything in his power to do so. with experience will come wisdom. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Why should we throw 35 times when he’s a multi threat Qb This is the jags defense we are talking about just say Qbrecord for the most rushing yards and would’ve easily been over 200 yards passing but for not all the penalties I’m not even counting Thompson Drop because you have drops in every game but the penalties by the offense of line that called back his wonderful passes were a lot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: An Allen hater attempting to come to grips with their wrong opinions. No hater, i just want him to pass more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. You want him to throw when the pocket breaks down and no on is open in his eyes? Let the kid figure it out. I was happy with his effort. Tough secondary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He went against the 4th rank pass defense. I'm glad he played confident with no turnovers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I don't give a crap about Allen's stats (pretty sure neither does he). We only care about scoreboard, and this kid is a winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He will be traded in three years and be a backup quarterback for a couple years and be out of the league by 2024. Probably sooner. He is an excellent athlete but a very bad quarterback. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He needs to continue to collect W’s. That’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, jaybee said: He will be traded in three years and be a backup quarterback for a couple years and be out of the league by 2024. Probably sooner. He is an excellent athlete but a very bad quarterback. wow just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, jaybee said: He will be traded in three years and be a backup quarterback for a couple years and be out of the league by 2024. Probably sooner. He is an excellent athlete but a very bad quarterback. Thank you for your opinion sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The O line had a ton of penalties. They aren’t terrible, but they aren’t very good, either. Running is partially a way to compensate for O line breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, LTF said: He will pass more with better receivers and a better offensive line. Right now the quality of options at the wide receiver position and at the TE are just not great. The line also doesn't quite give him enough time. Today was a great start. He has a very bright future. Has all the tools. Better receivers yes, but your point on the pass protection just isn’t the case. Hasn’t been the case since the first couple of games. The pass protection is more than adequate now. Did you notice Jacksonville’s line today in pass pro? That is bad. Very bad. This line is performing fine, albeit with some dumb penalties mixed in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I’m a little concerned about his health if he keeps running so much... but it worked for him today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I hope most realize with Allen’s running capabilities, this will open up the passing game. Teams are going to have to start spying on him, which opens up the passing lanes. Takeaway penalties on multiple successful passes and the kid had a helluva game. It’s his rookie year and I for one can’t wait for a whole offseason, training camp combined with an upgraded roster on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, jaybee said: He will be traded in three years and be a backup quarterback for a couple years and be out of the league by 2024. Probably sooner. He is an excellent athlete but a very bad quarterback. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I think we all saw what we needed to see from Allen today. Some progression, baby steps. When he saw green in front of him he took it. The TD pass to Foster under duress was fantastic. He converted some 3rd downs with his arm (even those negated by penalty) Ideally, you're right, I would also like to see more completed passes but as of now I'm encouraged by his progression. I think the playcalling helped him today, that was nice to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 At this point, Allen is TT V2.0 another running Qb. That has to change if the rook is to be a franchise QB! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great throw 35 times next week Delete your account or watch the games sober 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 he had 1812 passing yards in his final season at Wyoming. He's not going to ever be Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, bigK14094 said: At this point, Allen is TT V2.0 another running Qb. That has to change if the rook is to be a franchise QB! Like completing passes on 3rd and 5 then 3rd and 15 then throwing a jump ball to KB ON 3rd and 25 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Beebe Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 50 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. Some people are never happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. He will get there it takes time . He had a lot of great throws today and some were dropped. I only saw a couple of bad passes. We don't need to be a throw first team, balance is always best. Edited November 25, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 50 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. This is exactly like those emails complaining about Tyrod didn't throw for enough yardage, even though the Bills won the game. This was Allen's 6th game! He has so much heart. That to me is more important than how many yards he threw for. Give it time. His yardage numbers will come up. He was facing one of the best pass defenses in the league. I will never understand the mentality of this type of thread. May you find peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Loved what I saw from Allen today. I do believe he has IT. Give it some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, longtimebillsfan said: This is exactly like those emails complaining about Tyrod didn't throw for enough yardage, even though the Bills won the game. This was Allen's 6th game! He has so much heart. That to me is more important than how many yards he threw for. Give it time. His yardage numbers will come up. He was facing one of the best pass defenses in the league. I will never understand the mentality of this type of thread. May you find peace. Tyrod got traded, and then thrown on a scrap heap, so any parallels to Tyrod are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: I think we all saw what we needed to see from Allen today. Some progression, baby steps. When he saw green in front of him he took it. The TD pass to Foster under duress was fantastic. He converted some 3rd downs with his arm (even those negated by penalty) Ideally, you're right, I would also like to see more completed passes but as of now I'm encouraged by his progression. I think the playcalling helped him today, that was nice to see. Spot on. The one thing I hoped to see today, I did. Before the injury, Allen would bail the pocket a bit too quickly and, worse, he would often bail straight back, giving himself no chance to make something happen. Today, he slid around the pocket much better, and moved laterally to open something up (most often a scramble, but still, positive yards.) That was excellent. That was the number 1 thing I wanted to see out of him coming back and he was great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 49 minutes ago, zevo said: Seems to work just fine for cam Does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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