FistingBot Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, Adam727 said: Of course this was the first bills game in years that I couldn’t watch. (Traveling). Can anyone provide a fair/balanced review of how Allen played today? Was he really good enough to make so many people think he’s a franchise QB? Or is a lot of that bills fans understandably being biased? Specifically how was his accuracy and how did he do making it through his progressions? Would we still have scored close to 27 without th defensive turnovers? Thanks!! If you go to Bills.com you can find a video of every throw Allen made in the game (both complete and incomplete). BTW - about half of his incompletions were drops. It's not hard to see Allen's obvious talent. He has that "it" factor (as does Baker Mayfield) that I haven't seen in Buffalo since the '90s. He'll have his ups and downs like all young QBs, but if he stays healthy, it's hard not to get excited about the fact that we many finally have found our first "franchise quarterback" since Jim Kelly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Allen most exciting thing we have had in a while! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Romo was a great addition to this game. He seemed genuinely excited about Allen's play. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I cannot remember a time where a Bills Qb without much help on his side of ball put his team on his back and won a game going away vs a top 10 team. Without some drops and bobbles Allen has 3 or 4 passing TDs. Still early but doing that to Minnesota means they can beat anyone. Rodgers is great but Minnesota is a much better team than GB. Good defense and Allen making a handful of plays will result in W's. Let's not forget about the defense. One could argue that they put the team on their backs. Or we could agree it was a team effort with Allen looking great in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: Let's not forget about the defense. One could argue that they put the team on their backs. Or we could agree it was a team effort with Allen looking great in the process. It's an argument and that's the best argument to have. The offense took the pressure off the defense and gave them time off the field. The defense likewise kept the pressure off the offense and gave them more opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Right but in years past Buffalo finds themselves in a game late in the 4th. Last year vs Denver and Atlanta, Fitz vs the Steelers, ravens or numerous Pat's games. With out anybody of Fantasy relevance on the roster The offense scoring 3 TDs in the first half was impressive. You cant watch the game and not come away with Allen carried the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Right but in years past Buffalo finds themselves in a game late in the 4th. Last year vs Denver and Atlanta, Fitz vs the Steelers, ravens or numerous Pat's games. With out anybody of Fantasy relevance on the roster The offense scoring 3 TDs in the first half was impressive. You cant watch the game and not come away with Allen carried the offense. Of course he had 2 rushing TD and was only 17 yards from having the most rushing yards as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, Adam727 said: Of course this was the first bills game in years that I couldn’t watch. (Traveling). Can anyone provide a fair/balanced review of how Allen played today? Was he really good enough to make so many people think he’s a franchise QB? Or is a lot of that bills fans understandably being biased? Specifically how was his accuracy and how did he do making it through his progressions? Would we still have scored close to 27 without th defensive turnovers? Thanks!! He was great. We did have good field position a lot including 2 drives that effectively started in the red zone, but he was incredible either way. His mistakes were an underthrown deep ball that was almost picked, and 2 sacks where he fumbled the ball but luckily we recovered both. Every incompletion except I think 2 were drops on perfectly thrown balls. He played a near perfect half of football and then in the 2nd half we went very simple because of the score. We won the game because we played well including Allen, and we blew them out because the ball bounced our way a few times. If that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: Of course he had 2 rushing TD and was only 17 yards from having the most rushing yards as well. That's the point. Against a playoff team when is the last time a Qb carried the Bill's offense? Success has been tied to the Rb in Buffalo for what it seems like 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I really would like to hear what the Vikings defense has to say about Allen. They have had to deal with some stud qb’s in their last 6-7 games and I would like to hear how Allen compares in their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Adam727 said: Of course this was the first bills game in years that I couldn’t watch. (Traveling). Can anyone provide a fair/balanced review of how Allen played today? Was he really good enough to make so many people think he’s a franchise QB? Or is a lot of that bills fans understandably being biased? Specifically how was his accuracy and how did he do making it through his progressions? Would we still have scored close to 27 without th defensive turnovers? Thanks!! The early turnovers and short field position definitely helped the first half scoreboard. That said, Allen was much better than at any point during the preseason or through the first two weeks. He consistently made plays, both with his legs and his arm, some of which were downright spectacular. Our receivers didn't do him any favours with all those drops. Daboll/McD took their foot off the gas in the second half so his numbers weren't as impressive as they could have been. Now for the bad. He had one dropped INT in the first quarter and three fumbles, all of which we were lucky to recover. He's still sloppy with the football trying to do too much. He's still slow going through his progressions. He still has no idea what's coming from the defense pre-snap. Romo called him out for this a couple of times during the game. Edited September 24, 2018 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsgpr88 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 9 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: I'd like him to hurdle tom brady into the HoF though I would like to see him shotput brady into a dumpster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Batman1876 said: I think attitude plays a big role in success. The ability to play a bad game or two and still keep coming out with confidence. A lot of young players have a bad game or two and come out questioning themselves. I think that is what sets Josh (and baker) apart from the rest of the class. They have faced constant doubt but remained confident in themselves and kept on exceeding expectations. post of the day about Allen. So very true both of these guys were kicked to the curb. no one wanted either one of these guys on their team in college football. They both were Initially shuned. Baker had to walk on to get his job. Allen played JR. College ball. These guys know what it’s like for people not to believe in them. They are both special players and good men. Both true leaders in every respect. Thank god we got Josh Allen on our team. Edited September 24, 2018 by 17 Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheElectricCompany Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mat68 said: I cannot remember a time where a Bills Qb without much help on his side of ball put his team on his back and won a game going away vs a top 10 team. = 70% of his passing yards came from YAC. His teammates were putting plenty on their backs. Edited September 24, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 He definitely looks better than he did last week... If he continues to progress it will be a nice to have a QB. I noticed he was delivering much more accurate passes to wide open WRs compared to last week.. I still have to watch the game ? because for some GD reason Direct TV doesn't recognize that I have record all Buffalo Bills games and yet when I came home Sunday from a trip to Vancouver, DTV recorded the Broncos ravens for me instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 17 hours ago, HansLanda said: From a WR perspective, it would be nice if KB just looks like he should be in the NFL. That will be a start. The frustrating part is the WRs Have physical attributes that should make them competent WRs. Zay has the overall athleticism of some of the top guys. But his hands are unbelievably inconsistent K-Benj has absolutely dominant size that he should be unstoppable in the red zone but that slant drop was inexcusable Even holmes has great size decent speed but - can’t keep his feet in bounds to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 8 hours ago, CDogg20 said: I really would like to hear what the Vikings defense has to say about Allen. They have had to deal with some stud qb’s in their last 6-7 games and I would like to hear how Allen compares in their minds. I think what they would say is they played flat. "It's not what Buffalo did, it's what we didn't do" kind of synopsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Whoot! The front page of Peter King's Monday morning column... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/24/nfl-week-3-surprises-normal-fmia-peter-king/?cid=pfttease/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I'm not ready to crown him. I like Allen alot, but one good game and one so so game... I'd still love to see him improve his ball security. The pick while carrying around the Chargers DE last week, a ridiculous fumble where he held the ball up in the air this week. He's a rookie so I'm cautiously optimistic that he will indeed eliminate these things from his game. His mental toughness and his resiliency give me tons of hope. He looked much more comfortable this week in the pocket, looked to be making his reads much quicker. If he can continue to do what he did today week after week the Bills have a bright future ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Checking out of and into the right play is one of his remaining challenges as you'd logically expect with any young QB at an early stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, TheElectricCompany said: 70% of his passing yards came from YAC. His teammates were putting plenty on their backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, Lurker said: Whoot! The front page of Peter King's Monday morning column... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/24/nfl-week-3-surprises-normal-fmia-peter-king/?cid=pfttease/ Wow, I see a lot of grammatical errors in that article already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just think if he had Matt Moore mentoring him? Front office really dropped the ball on that one... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 His size and arm strength are going to give defenses a lot of problems. He's one of those guys in the Big Ben mold capable of keeping plays alive just because of his size and that arm can get the ball 50 yards downfield with no effort. Let's just hope McBeane sells out to get him the weapons he deserves now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) There are plenty of good reasons why JA was going to be drafted high in the first, whether by the Bills or by another team (Cards as matters developed). No doubt he will experience ups and downs and has a lot to learn but he has shown that he can beat you with his arm from the pocket, from a moving pocket and outside the pocket. He can attack every blade of grass on the field and is capable of making any throw. As if that didn't pressure a D enuf, he can beat you with his legs too. Add to that the ability, like Baker, to inspire his teammates on both sides of the ball. And then there is his basic intelligence which is also an asset. Dude can be very dangerous to the well being of defensive coordinators. Given his demonstrated ability and extremely rare physical skill set it was apparent to many observers that if he could grow and refine his game and execute with greater consistency Josh Allen held a deep in the money option on elite NFL QB status. Seems pretty obvious that the football world can only be impressed by what the have seen so far. It looks to me like Daboll will be very important, perhaps even crucial to JA's continued development. I was encouraged by his game plan and play calling during the first half yesterday. Well designed to disrupt an opposing D that was clearly expecting a much more conservative approach. Green Bay will not now fall into the same trap so it will be very interesting to see just how JA and the Bills make out next Sunday. Another strong performance will go a long way to confirming that Allen's sky high potential can eventually be realized. Edited September 24, 2018 by starrymessenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 15 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Yeah, true. Lets not forget the kid fumbled 3X but was lucky enough to have them all recovered. Also I cringed whenever he threw cross body when rolling out though I must admit they were beautiful throws. Kids got so much physical talent. Speed, strength, hops and decent pocket presence. Oh and btw, the accuracy looked pretty good too. To be fair one of the "fumbles" was a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I am a little surprised that I am not hearing more about Allen from the pundits. I mean, I know they have labelled him a bust and they are loath to move on from that, but he put together a far better game than Darnold or Rosen in a spectacular upset. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I am a little surprised that I am not hearing more about Allen from the pundits. I mean, I know they have labelled him a bust and they are loath to move on from that, but he put together a far better game than Darnold or Rosen in a spectacular upset. On nfl radio, they were talking about how the game wasn’t too big for some young qbs such as mayfield and mahomes. Brady Quinn went out of his was to include Allen in the mix. There’s that. Edited September 24, 2018 by teef 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Adam727 said: Of course this was the first bills game in years that I couldn’t watch. (Traveling). Can anyone provide a fair/balanced review of how Allen played today? Was he really good enough to make so many people think he’s a franchise QB? Or is a lot of that bills fans understandably being biased? Specifically how was his accuracy and how did he do making it through his progressions? Would we still have scored close to 27 without th defensive turnovers? Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffaloboyinATL Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) I just saw a graphic on NFL Network saying Josh Allen had the best ever rookie performance against a Mike Zimmer Vikings Defense. (since 2014). He ranked number one in the following categories: Comp %. 68.2 Pass Yards 196 yards per attempt. 8.9 Total TD. 3 Passer rating 111.2 Edited September 24, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Read this: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/09/24/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-qb-if-they-had-good-receivers-could-catch/1408213002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Love the enthusiasm. I just want to go into next season feeling great about Josh Allen being a Franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: His size and arm strength are going to give defenses a lot of problems. He's one of those guys in the Big Ben mold capable of keeping plays alive just because of his size and that arm can get the ball 50 yards downfield with no effort. Let's just hope McBeane sells out to get him the weapons he deserves now. This spring I see McB taking a shopping cart into FA and coming out with some toys for Josh. Think our 1st pick will be OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ndirish1978 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 First time in years I have seen vets excited about a young qb. Not guardedly optimistic, but excited. Just look at Shady's twitter to see him falling over himself to praise Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMoulds80 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 4:26 PM, NewDayBills said: This isn't a told you so thread, I wanted us to draft Allen but I did not expect this. 3 TDs, but should have been 4 but Benjamin dropped that EZ TD. McCloud also dropped that huge bomb. The guy is even better than I thought, I'm glad they were so fearless in the way they used him, I was yelling at my TV telling him to get down every time he ran the ball, the Superman TD run where he hit the pylon was something Cam Newton would do. This is Allen's team, Shady is no longer our best player, Josh Allen is the franchise. I love what Allen is doing right now. (Foster dropped the bomb). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I was about to post the same thing. Looks like he's yelling at the ref for a flag already. I remember when he threw a pick in preseason and hit the defending near the goal line and caused a fumble. As he got up he started giving the touch back signal. Seems like he's got pretty good awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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