Aussie Joe Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Very happy where he is at this stage... He is not perfect by any means but hopefully he will continue to improve... Would like to see him scale the running back a bit so he can last a few more games.. he is going to get his bell rung soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Not yet but he’s tending that way. Had a great game especially considering what Zimmer does to rookie qbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, MDH said: I want to see better ball security in the pocket from both. They need to learn just to put the ball in their gut and make sure they don’t lose it. having an actual pocket would help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 39 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: My goodness, this place cracks me up. 2.5 games. Take a lap dudes. Agree, but it was a huge leap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Virginian Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 As a Wyoming and Josh Allen fan I can say I'm not surprised. He was an eye opener in his first series as a red-shirt freshman at UW. He continued to amaze in his career as a Cowboy. I think the trend will continue as a Bill. I can confidently say you've got your franchise quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyokid Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Hey guys great win today. Kind of a long post so stay with me. First off I am am Wyoming guy through and through so I should be able to give you insight on what to expect from Josh Allen. My uncle played for the Bills in the 80’s Conrad Dobler... yeah he’s an !@#$) so I have rooted for the Bills from afar for a while. I am a true blue Broncos fan but I said whatever team Josh went to would be my second team. I was really happy he went to the Bills. Thank god he is not a Brown. So here is the skinny on Josh, you will have to give him time. I have never seen a qb do some of the things that he has done in games and remember I’m an Elway fan. He has a stupid strong arm and is great with his legs, but he will frustrate the hell out of you at times. He will make some head pounding stupid plays when they aren’t necessary and then make one that you are sure would make him a HOF. He is still raw and I think he should have stayed in school one more year. I wasn’t to high on him starting so early because he still needs to develop but he is a huge competitor and people doubting him will only motivate him more. You can’t look at Mayfield, Darnold or even Rosen when he starts to play but rather look at Josh’s growth. He may come back next week and look like Nathan Peterman (ok maybe never that bad) but he will have ups and downs. I am happy you guys got him because like I said I have always rooted for Buffalo from afar. If there is anything you guys want to know I will be as honest as I can. thamks for reading 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 52 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Depends which experts? Kiper and Mayock had him at #2 I believe. It's way too early, but I can't remember the last time a Bills QB hurdled an all pro linebacker. How about Benjamin "hot take" Albright? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 How about we stop the madness and let this play out. So far so good and we should all be happy with that without making HOF or bust declarations. He's going to have a brutal game or two in this season. So we won't be a bust after them and he's not an all star yet. Right now I"m encouraged and pleased by what he's doing - isn't that enough. Let him grow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He played well today. As with all rookie QBs he made some head scatcherd as well. But he showed signs of having the two things any long term QB has to have to make it: 1. Poise. Young QBs succeed or fail on whether they can get the game to slow down enough to make plays. He showed that's coming along. Doesn't have the deer in the headlights look. 2. Leadership: Does your team believe in you? Will they follow you? Answer to those appear to be yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Can't wait to see the progression through this year. He straight balled today. I pray he can stay healthy with his style of play. Next year give this kid a couple studs at the WR position and a better O-line and look out baby. That pylon photo would be a great Madden cover. Also please don’t put Josh on Madden. The best part of Josh’s game today was he played with tons of moxy and swagger 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: The ones that admire his work ethic will say they knew it all along The ones who hated him before and when we drafted him will find a way to defend their opinion This was against the Vikings in their own home....a team that was supposed to be a Super Bowl favorite and I rest my case I didn't want Allen when we drafted him, but he's won me over. He's a quick learner, and has good leadership qualities. The defense seems to feed off of his energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: How about Benjamin "hot take" Albright? You mean the target of Mike Schopp's "affection?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I thought he played well and was let down by his teammates at times with drops but come on, he has a lot to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, COTC said: Too early... If he had looked bad you'd be saying we should be concerned that he's a bust. Why is it too early? He barely has a couple players around him that would start on other teams and he made the offense happen all on his own. Watch our run game suddenly pick up too because defenses have to keep 2 deep when he's on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If he had looked bad you'd be saying we should be concerned that he's a bust. Why is it too early? He barely has a couple players around him that would start on other teams and he made the offense happen all on his own. Watch our run game suddenly pick up too because defenses have to keep 2 deep when he's on the field. I think he is going to continue to improve on the details. Already we know he can run, move in the pocket and extend plays as well as being a bear to tackle Defenses will not be playing 11 within 20 yds of the los No small ball with Josh Allen able to attack any spot on the field. Is he going to get confused, try to do too much? Of course he is a rookie. O line played better for the most part. I think 20 years of trying to find Jim Kelly's replacement have taken a toll on this fan base. Easier to just say the qb is a bust than to show hope when we have had so many failures. He looks and feels different. Time will tell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, NewDayBills said: You were one of the first on his bandwagon, even before we drafted him. Props to you, I remember you taking a lot of flak for it. I became a fan of his after watching all of his games post draft. I only watched 4 games predraft and had a bad e v a l on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 HELL YEAH !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Victory Formation Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, billspro said: I became a fan of his after watching all of his games post draft. I only watched 4 games predraft and had a bad e v a l on him. Am I thinking of @Buffalo30 ???? Maybe that's who it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He pretty much sucks. Couldn’t even score in the second half today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: Am I thinking of @Buffalo30 ???? Maybe that's who it was. Yeah, I remember our QB debates. I loved watching Allen in college. His team was garbage around him and he still found a way to win. So many looked at the stats but that means nothing in college. He's a competitor. He will do whatever it takes to win. I'm happy to see his leadership abilities coming through already. He shut some people up today. So happy for him but he needs to continue to grow as the year goes on and look at the film and listen to his coaches. His future is so bright. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: HELL YEAH !!! So....you’re on the fence? That’s OK, take your time and think about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Dak and Watson are falling back to earth. Goff and Wentz were terrible their first year's and look great now. Let's give it a little time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I keep seeing this topic and asking "Why is he budding? Can't he reproduce sexually?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 38 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If he had looked bad you'd be saying we should be concerned that he's a bust. Why is it too early? He barely has a couple players around him that would start on other teams and he made the offense happen all on his own. Watch our run game suddenly pick up too because defenses have to keep 2 deep when he's on the field. It’s too early because this is only his 2nd game. His sample size is too small for us to judge accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I keep seeing this topic and asking "Why is he budding? Can't he reproduce sexually?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Am I thinking of @Buffalo30 ???? Maybe that's who it was. Bandit liked him too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: Dak and Watson are falling back to earth. Goff and Wentz were terrible their first year's and look great now. Let's give it a little time their surrounding talent has regressed Nobody with exception of maybe a healthy aaron rodgers an do it all by themselves Watson I think is for real Dak might be JAG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I keep seeing this topic and asking "Why is he budding? Can't he reproduce sexually?" Let’s just say, he’s no Travis Henry! (That can be a good thing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wyokid said: Hey guys great win today. Kind of a long post so stay with me. First off I am am Wyoming guy through and through so I should be able to give you insight on what to expect from Josh Allen. My uncle played for the Bills in the 80’s Conrad Dobler... yeah he’s an !@#$) so I have rooted for the Bills from afar for a while. I am a true blue Broncos fan but I said whatever team Josh went to would be my second team. I was really happy he went to the Bills. Thank god he is not a Brown. So here is the skinny on Josh, you will have to give him time. I have never seen a qb do some of the things that he has done in games and remember I’m an Elway fan. He has a stupid strong arm and is great with his legs, but he will frustrate the hell out of you at times. He will make some head pounding stupid plays when they aren’t necessary and then make one that you are sure would make him a HOF. He is still raw and I think he should have stayed in school one more year. I wasn’t to high on him starting so early because he still needs to develop but he is a huge competitor and people doubting him will only motivate him more. You can’t look at Mayfield, Darnold or even Rosen when he starts to play but rather look at Josh’s growth. He may come back next week and look like Nathan Peterman (ok maybe never that bad) but he will have ups and downs. I am happy you guys got him because like I said I have always rooted for Buffalo from afar. If there is anything you guys want to know I will be as honest as I can. thamks for reading I think it's safe to say this is how a lot of us feel. A lot of the older fans didn't want him to start so quickly for these reasons. I compared him to Favre statistically early on, and I got fried for it. but he has the 'it' that is the statistical curve pusher. He is 4 sigma, the curve pusher that stats don't apply to. Mayfield was too. These are high risk, high reward type guys, and this draft had two of them. Darnold and Rosen will be fine, but Mayfield and Allen have ceilings as high as the moon. We got one of them. I hope this early start benefits him unlike Favre or Young etc who got wrecked starting too soon then went to other teams to become special. Allen is in that class. I've said it before, and I stand by it still. Thanks for weighing in. Welcome to the nut house. Edited September 23, 2018 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, joesixpack said: "Say my name." "You're...Sheldon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) Lets hope so!!! He looked good today. If he keeps improving, no doubt he’ll be one. Edited September 23, 2018 by COTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 What I like about Allen is he never looks scared or lacking in confidence regardless of the situation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrediggerPoke Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Wyokid said: Hey guys great win today. Kind of a long post so stay with me. First off I am am Wyoming guy through and through so I should be able to give you insight on what to expect from Josh Allen. My uncle played for the Bills in the 80’s Conrad Dobler... yeah he’s an !@#$) so I have rooted for the Bills from afar for a while. I am a true blue Broncos fan but I said whatever team Josh went to would be my second team. I was really happy he went to the Bills. Thank god he is not a Brown. So here is the skinny on Josh, you will have to give him time. I have never seen a qb do some of the things that he has done in games and remember I’m an Elway fan. He has a stupid strong arm and is great with his legs, but he will frustrate the hell out of you at times. He will make some head pounding stupid plays when they aren’t necessary and then make one that you are sure would make him a HOF. He is still raw and I think he should have stayed in school one more year. I wasn’t to high on him starting so early because he still needs to develop but he is a huge competitor and people doubting him will only motivate him more. You can’t look at Mayfield, Darnold or even Rosen when he starts to play but rather look at Josh’s growth. He may come back next week and look like Nathan Peterman (ok maybe never that bad) but he will have ups and downs. I am happy you guys got him because like I said I have always rooted for Buffalo from afar. If there is anything you guys want to know I will be as honest as I can. thamks for reading Your uncle Conrad was at my house a few years ago for a poker game/bachelor party! I wasn't around to follow him when he played for Wyoming but he was a lot of fun to play poker with and to talk to. Your thoughts are spot on with Josh Allen and how I feel about him. Never seen a more physically gifted and bigger competitor at QB in my life! (John Elway is 2nd for me) He will make mistakes and throw bad interceptions but he will do everything in his power to get his team to win the game. Yep, stats are for losers. Give me Josh Allen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Not that it means a lot, but Trent Edwards looked like the real deal too. Let’s hope Allen continues this trend and doesn’t have the same fate Trent did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Seriously is there any doubt about this kid now? I don't think so, but there's been a few QB's that came hot out of the gates and cooled a bit. Watson, Prescott. However I think Allen has already showed us he's better than both. I'd take him over Darnold, Trubisky, Mariotta, Carr and Winston. If he remains in the conversation with Mahomes, Went and Goff then we did well. And none of them played better or more in year one so far, but it's a long season and teams will get tape on Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, JimBob2232 said: Not that it means a lot, but Trent Edwards looked like the real deal too. Let’s hope Allen continues this trend and doesn’t have the same fate Trent did. You’re right. not only doesn’t your statement mean a lot, it actually means nothing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 real question is Josh Allen the best thrower of the football in the NFL ,not best qb, not best passer, but best thrower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I didn’t want Allen and was pissed on draft night. This kid is winning me over and I hope and think I was wrong about him. Get this guy some WRs and let’s see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Seriously is there any doubt about this kid now? Two starts. People were anointing Trent Edwards the "new franchise QB" after two starts. Yeah, there's doubt. He's still larval. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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