N.Y. Orangeman Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Self explanatory I hope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 one day at a time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 The Browns ‘17 season comes to mind.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Given that my hypothesis was that our key to success this coming season no matter who was at QB was pounding the rock on the ground, ehhh I'd say with the 1st pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills select _________________________. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 He's the best player on the offense and usually the best player out of all 22 on the field.. We're doomed without him, but I still feel he'll be there from week 1 on , barring injury of course. It's all heresay at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I know in another thread I mentioned that I kind of viewed this season as a throw away year anyways, with the qb situation and wr depth chart. Making the playoffs last year helps me to not even be upset about that. So I pretty much felt that 8 wins was the max, and 4 was the floor. So if Shady is gone, suspended, or healthy all 16 games, I don’t think it matters from a playoffs or no playoffs perspective. Will it effect the number of wins? Probably. But to me, if it decreases the win total by 2, that’s going from 7 to 5 wins, or 8 to 6 wins. So it does not impact a playoff push at all in my mind, regardless of the outcome. Ending the drought, to me, makes this all a little easier to handle from a Bills perspective. If there was a year that we have to move on from our best player, this would be it. We probably wouldn’t be a playoff team anyways. This would have been more devastating last year, when we all (at this time in the off-season prior to Watkins and Darby trades) at least thought there was a chance of playoffs. This year, I’m not even stressing the thought of losing Shady for the year, or for good. PS: Everything I just wrote is from a purely football perspective focused on wins and losses. In no way am I suggesting that wins and losses are more important than domestic violence. Just simply making the point that from a Bills fan perspective, losing your best player would make the upcoming season much more difficult to accept if the drought still existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 McCoy was going to have a down year anyways. If today’s nfl, if you are that depended on a rb, your team isn’t that good. but we’ll end up with 7-9 wins like we always do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, billsfan5121 said: I know in another thread I mentioned that I kind of viewed this season as a throw away year anyways, with the qb situation and wr depth chart... BLAH BLAH BLAH.. No one knows about our wr depth. We haven’t had a qb capable of determining who’s good/who’s not. Anyway, minus Shady, 0-2 wins unless Allen starts games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 It will have a small affect, maybe 1 or 2 games....maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 It's included 4 AFC Championships thus far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'm not so sure there will be a huge drop off, I don't think he was a big enough factor in overcoming the QB and WR deficiencies. 4-5 wins without him, 6-7 with. Either way, they're going to be hard to watch this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Maybe 1 less win. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I shudder to think how bad this offense could be without Shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I cannot believe you all are forgetting this.... Kyle runs for 2K and 25 TDs. Bills win the Super Bowl. Meatball unleashed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 One acquittal and a few convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 They are 21-22 with him, so I am not sure he impacts the team in a fashion where their record will change dramatically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: No one knows about our wr depth. We haven’t had a qb capable of determining who’s good/who’s not. Anyway, minus Shady, 0-2 wins unless Allen starts games. Let’s be real for a moment. Our WR depth chart does not look good. You know that as much as I do. Does that mean they can’t be good, or won’t be good? Of course not. I never said they can’t be good. Of course they can. There was a point Stevie Johnson was a 7th round pick and had 2 career TDs. Then, in 2010, he gets 10 TDS and 1000 yards. I assume prior to the 2010, people were concerned with the WR depth chart, and rightfully so. That’s where I’m at this year. It doesn’t “look” good. But it’s the NFL, games need to get played, and we could all be in for a big surprise. But don’t criticize people for thinking it “looks” like a position of need. Every football “expert” feels the exact same way, so it’s not like I’m making wild assumptions. But I admit it’s simply an assumption that the WR depth chart does not look threatening at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 0-16 baby ! (couldn't resist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just put Kyle in at RB we'll go 16-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Assuming we have a Top Five Defense. I went with 7 wins. I think the bills would bring in a vet free agent like Orleans Darkwa, Adrian Peterson or Alfred Morris to help carry the load. Shady is a star and could help us win 9-11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 388-444-8 385-443-8 before he got here and 3-1 in games without him since 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Right now it’s 0-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan5121 said: Let’s be real for a moment. Our WR depth chart does not look good. You know that as much as I do. Does that mean they can’t be good, or won’t be good? Of course not. I never said they can’t be good. Of course they can. There was a point Stevie Johnson was a 7th round pick and had 2 career TDs. Then, in 2010, he gets 10 TDS and 1000 yards. I assume prior to the 2010, people were concerned with the WR depth chart, and rightfully so. That’s where I’m at this year. It doesn’t “look” good. But it’s the NFL, games need to get played, and we could all be in for a big surprise. But don’t criticize people for thinking it “looks” like a position of need. Every football “expert” feels the exact same way, so it’s not like I’m making wild assumptions. But I admit it’s simply an assumption that the WR depth chart does not look threatening at this time. great points. The WR chart looks bleak. But, I have a feeling we have a lot of high-upside guys and 1-3 of them have a great year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I think we are better off without him. Tired of his lame 10 yd runs for a net of 1. I for one hope he is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I’ll say 6 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: great points. The WR chart looks bleak. But, I have a feeling we have a lot of high-upside guys and 1-3 of them have a great year. That’s exactly how I feel. Nobody can tell me it doesn’t at least look bad. But looking bad and turning out to be bad are two different things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Shady is the offense along with being the heart and soul of this team. Without him I think we are fortunate to win 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan66214 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2, at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hot take: our record would have been exactly the same the past 2 years without Shady. Our other running backs usually had about the same YPA as he did and statistics show rushing efficiency has practically no effect on winning a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 If he's a gone, is he the last of Rex's guys? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 19-0 (Tip of the hat to The Senator.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 19-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Imagine the mood around here if we had traded a 2019 first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 McCoy on this team or not on this team has little impact on the bottom line. He's a great talent and good for your fantasy team, but he is utterly replaceable, and his presence on the field doesn't translate to wins or losses. When he is gone, he will be replaced with another RB and the show will continue down the road. Not sure why people don't get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 chance to get out from under that contract on a RB that will be 31 when i believe the Bills will be in position to compete with the rest of the NFL and then 32 and so on..... that being said I hope he had nothing to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: McCoy was going to have a down year anyways. If today’s nfl, if you are that depended on a rb, your team isn’t that good. but we’ll end up with 7-9 wins like we always do. If shady is out, who is our weapon to stretch the defense? Who changes the equation and takes up an extra defender? We don’t even have 1 yet alone the 2-3 needed to succeed offensively. If (big if) shady doesn’t play a snap, it could get very ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Five wins or less without him. Six wins or less with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I don’t expect this team to have a great record with or without Shady. I think that I had them at about 6-10 so if you subtract him it probably amounts to 5 or less imo. With that hat being said the focus isn’t really on this year. All that matters this year is that Allen looks the part. Shady wasn’t going to be a key figure on this team by the time they are ready to compete anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t expect this team to have a great record with or without Shady. I think that I had them at about 6-10 so if you subtract him it probably amounts to 5 or less imo. With that hat being said the focus isn’t really on this year. All that matters this year is that Allen looks the part. Shady wasn’t going to be a key figure on this team by the time they are ready to compete anyways. i will try to accept that the focus isn't really on this year but last year wasn't enough to erase the jadedness and indescribableness since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 12:27 PM, Dopey said: If he's a gone, is he the last of Rex's guys? I was thinking the same exact thing. Incognito and Tyrod now possibly Shady. From a football standpoint I suppose it won't hurt team with everyone being engrained in the process so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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