Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I love this. Edmunds was a consensus top 10 pick by all of the draft experts, and most people thought we would not even have a second pick in the 1st round if we moved up to get one of the top 4 QB's, and still people are bitching. We just got 2 potential superstars and still have plenty of picks left in this draft. These are not "feel good projects", they are 2 top 10 talents on day one of the draft. I am excited for the future of this franchise, sorry you can't enjoy it. And we gave away all of our 2nd round picks.........which is incidentally the deepest 2nd round talent that the draft has seen in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I love this. Edmunds was a consensus top 10 pick by all of the draft experts, and most people thought we would not even have a second pick in the 1st round if we moved up to get one of the top 4 QB's, and still people are bitching. We just got 2 potential superstars and still have plenty of picks left in this draft. These are not "feel good projects", they are 2 top 10 talents on day one of the draft. I am excited for the future of this franchise, sorry you can't enjoy it. I wouldn't say they have plenty of picks left - last pick in the third round - 63 picks before then, a late 4th and, I think a couple of 5ths. i am excited by the Edmunds selection and, while I wouldn't have taken Allen, I'm trying to be optimistic that with a good OL and a WR or two he might play something like Cam Newton. Regarding the Newton comment, I am not parroting someone else's' comment - I said that in a thread here a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think we landed the best lber in the draft. Solid solid pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I wouldn't say they have plenty of picks left - last pick in the third round - 63 picks before then, a late 4th and, I think a couple of 5ths. i am excited by the Edmunds selection and, while I wouldn't have taken Allen, I'm trying to be optimistic that with a good OL and a WR or two he might play something like Cam Newton. Regarding the Newton comment, I am not parroting someone else's' comment - I said that in a thread here a few days ago. They have pick 96, and then 5 picks on day 3: a 4th, two 5ths, a 6th, and a 7th. Just now, Charlottebillsfan2 said: I think we landed the best lber in the draft. Solid solid pick. Not the best IMO, but certainly the most talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Edmunds reminds me of Jamie Collins. This guy will win defensive rookie of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Legit question, I don't know if it was answered anywhere else in the thread: What position LB does he play? I know we are weak at both MLB and SLB, does he play a hybrid of those? From what I've read, he moved around a fair amount in college, and has the potential to play any LB position, including 3-4 pass rusher (maybe). My expectation is that Option A will be to have him in the Luke Kuechly role. If that doesn't work out, there's still other positions/roles where he could be very effective. Edit: It was barely touched on in the first-round press conference with McDermott, and he didn't commit to Edmunds at any specific position. We'll probably have to wait for training camp and see where he winds up playing. Edited April 27, 2018 by Cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I was a bit shocked that they did the same move for both picks: traded up a few spots and grabbed a player of need with a high ceiling and limited resume. I could see doing it once but I wouldn’t have done for our second pick. Nothing against Tremaine implied. This could a big win...or a really damaging bust of a Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Love the pick! Beane is a genius and got his QB and ILBer in the first round... when almost every Bills fan posting here wanted him to give up two 1sts, two 2nds, two 3rds for just a QB named Josh Rosen with the second overall pick. Some fans even wanted him to give up three firsts for Rosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: They have pick 96, and then 5 picks on day 3: a 4th, two 5ths, a 6th, and a 7th. Not for long if I had to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Not for long if I had to guess. Agreed I smell a trade for a vet WR or OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Agreed I smell a trade for a vet WR or OL I think we pick more than once tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I try not too put too much emphasis on measurables, but 6'5", 250lb, and runs a 4.5 40 is hard not to get excited about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I hate trading up for a non-QB.... but this seems like a terrific get. Guys on the telecast were uttering phrases such as "best linebacker in the league". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Agreed I smell a trade for a vet WR or OL That would be an interesting move, particularly OL. I am hopeful that Jonathan Miller can reemerge and take one of the OG spots, but the OL really lost a lot of talent this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Legit question, I don't know if it was answered anywhere else in the thread: What position LB does he play? I know we are weak at both MLB and SLB, does he play a hybrid of those? I think he could definitely play either, but I think they will plug him in as a MIKE. Bob Babich seemed to be really excited about him in some of those war room videos. I know people wanted to paint LVE as the next Brian Urlacher because he is a white guy and is similar in size. If you look at the measurables, this guy Edmunds is basically Urlacher in terms of potential and athletic profile. I think that is what Babich and McDermott see. I know I am comparing him to a HOF player, but that is what he could be. Playing him at the SAM would be a waste of his talents and athleticism in my honest opinion. They could play him there early, ala Shaq Thompson to get him acclimated, put I think you plug him in at MIKE right now. Zone defenses require a lot of length. Quarterbacks try to find those holes between the Mike linebacker and the safety, or between the corners and the safeties. That's why Mcdermott values long corners and having a 6-5 MIKE with 35 inch arms and runs a 4.54 makes it more difficult for quarterbacks to fit the ball in those windows. It basically makes them tighter. Edmunds is a bit raw, but the signing of Star Lotulelei is going to protect him and allow him to make a million plays. I love this pick. I honestly hope the Bills still draft another backer like Fred Warner later in the draft as well to go along with Milano and Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Biggest nose I’ve ever seen. Love this guy. Outstanding pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Kid is a monster at 19 yrs of age....will only get better. He is our Keuchley for McDermott's defense. Best LB in draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I had been so focused on QBs this year, and willing to trade the whole draft to get one, I never really paid attention to the other guys in the first round. Luckily McBeane did! Looks like we got a heck of a prospect. My main worries are that I hear he is "young and needs to be molded". A lot of what I heard in my research last night sounded like what folks said about Maybin. However, I'm trusting that McDermitt and Babich will be able to coach the kid up at MIKE in the Tampa-2 they run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm not sure whether Edmunds ends up as a MLB or OLB or a hybrid who lines up in different spots based on down and distance, but I love this trade up and selection. The Bills have needed an IMPACT player in the front 7 on defense for years now, and hopefully Edmunds becomes that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I had been so focused on QBs this year, and willing to trade the whole draft to get one, I never really paid attention to the other guys in the first round. Luckily McBeane did! Looks like we got a heck of a prospect. My main worries are that I hear he is "young and needs to be molded". A lot of what I heard in my research last night sounded like what folks said about Maybin. However, I'm trusting that McDermitt and Babich will be able to coach the kid up at MIKE in the Tampa-2 they run. He is not an edge rusher, he could but he is going to play LB. He has the best range in the draft coverage or sideline to sideline. By molded, he doesn't really know how strong he is yet and it will be enhanced with proper technigue. 6-5 240 Mike who led his team in tackles and sacks who is 19 is a unicorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Edmunds jumps out on tape as he is easy to find due to his size and athleticism. This guy is a freak and not even 20 years old yet. A top 10 talent. Edited April 27, 2018 by racketmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, Mat68 said: He is not an edge rusher, he could but he is going to play LB. He has the best range in the draft coverage or sideline to sideline. By molded, he doesn't really know how strong he is yet and it will be enhanced with proper technigue. 6-5 240 Mike who led his team in tackles and sacks who is 19 is a unicorn. I didnt mean like Maybin in the position he plays. I meant young and unpolished and a project for our defensive staff. I do trust McD and Babich to bring the kid along, more so than the coaches we had with Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think he could definitely play either, but I think they will plug him in as a MIKE. Bob Babich seemed to be really excited about him in some of those war room videos. I know people wanted to paint LVE as the next Brian Urlacher because he is a white guy and is similar in size. If you look at the measurables, this guy Edmunds is basically Urlacher in terms of potential and athletic profile. I think that is what Babich and McDermott see. I know I am comparing him to a HOF player, but that is what he could be. Playing him at the SAM would be a waste of his talents and athleticism in my honest opinion. They could play him there early, ala Shaq Thompson to get him acclimated, put I think you plug him in at MIKE right now. Zone defenses require a lot of length. Quarterbacks try to find those holes between the Mike linebacker and the safety, or between the corners and the safeties. That's why Mcdermott values long corners and having a 6-5 MIKE with 35 inch arms and runs a 4.54 makes it more difficult for quarterbacks to fit the ball in those windows. It basically makes them tighter. Edmunds is a bit raw, but the signing of Star Lotulelei is going to protect him and allow him to make a million plays. I love this pick. I honestly hope the Bills still draft another backer like Fred Warner later in the draft as well to go along with Milano and Edmunds. NFL.com profile compares him to Brian Urlacher. I would be thrilled to have that in the middle of the defense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: YES!!! Last defensive VT player we took in the first turned out all right! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: Last defensive VT player we took in the first turned out all right! BRUUUUCE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Imagine this guy roaming the middle in the nickel. Speed, size and length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 One of these guys is bigger than I expected not sure which lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: NFL.com profile compares him to Brian Urlacher. I would be thrilled to have that in the middle of the defense Oh nice! I actually didn't realize that. I would love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: One of these guys is bigger than I expected not sure which lol Awesome picture. Hopefully those two are the soon to be leaders on their sides of the ball. 19 and already a brick house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Not sure if this was posted or not but a good balanced take on Edmunds. The short of it, he's got work to do but with the proper molding he could be a generational ALL PRO talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 36 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I didnt mean like Maybin in the position he plays. I meant young and unpolished and a project for our defensive staff. I do trust McD and Babich to bring the kid along, more so than the coaches we had with Maybin. Maybin's problem was that he was undersized. Edmunds is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Maybin's problem was that he was undersized. Edmunds is not. Good point Doc. He is definitely NOT undersized. 4 minutes ago, Magox said: Not sure if this was posted or not but a good balanced take on Edmunds. The short of it, he's got work to do but with the proper molding he could be a generational ALL PRO talent. Yeah, that's the video that made me worry about the Maybin thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Can't believe we got this guy at 16. Top 5-10 pick. A toss up between him and Smith for the better linebacker. Great pedigree, huge, strong, and rangy. And only 19. This guy has perennial Pro Bowler written all over him. Reminds me of a 2000 Ravens kind of player (like Peter Boulware). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Magox said: Not sure if this was posted or not but a good balanced take on Edmunds. The short of it, he's got work to do but with the proper molding he could be a generational ALL PRO talent. This gets me excited. I have a lot of confidence in McDermott to develop this kid, and Bob Babich is among the best linebacker coaches in the NFL (IMO). So I have a lot of faith that this kid will get the proper coaching. I remember when Carolina picked Keuchley. There were some questions and quite a few mixed reviews about that pick at the time, and that turned out pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: This gets me excited. I have a lot of confidence in McDermott to develop this kid, and Bob Babich is among the best linebacker coaches in the NFL (IMO). So I have a lot of faith that this kid will get the proper coaching. I remember when Carolina picked Keuchley. There were some questions and quite a few mixed reviews about that pick at the time, and that turned out pretty damn good. I have complete faith that this team, especially on the defensive side of the ball will be able to coach him up to realize his full potential. It's just a matter of whether or not the kid is hungry to learn because if he does, he will not only be a probowler but a generational ALL PRO talent that will lead this defense over the next decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This pick is incredible for us. We just got our all pro middle linebacker for years. He can also rush the passer off the edge and only 19. Crazy! McBean did an amazing job yesterday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Rob's House said: I try not too put too much emphasis on measurables, but 6'5", 250lb, and runs a 4.5 40 is hard not to get excited about. Don't forget, long 36in arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Can LB's wear jersey numbers in the 40's? Can he wear his same number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: One of these guys is bigger than I expected not sure which lol They should put a normal ~5'10" guy in every picture of these two for perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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