cantankerous Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 He should’ve never been a first rounder. Awful pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) I thought the Bills might have traded Hughes on draft weekend to move up as a possible scenario, but the Bills have kept Hughes and added Murphy -- both capable starting DE's in the NFL. So what is the plan for the underachieving Shaq Lawson? Will they try him out at Sam LB in place of the aging Lorenzo Alexander? Will he be a 1st round bench warmer? Will they try to deal him or save him? Edited May 4, 2018 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Edge setting DE who will play on 1st down and situationally as part of the rotation. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB12 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 A good question, and one the HC and GM need to address sooner than later. Some mentoring from Alexander is a possibility before the aging defender is ready to pass the baton off. Time will tell, but the future is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Shaq might not make the 53 man roster. Ditto for John Miller. If he stays, I see him as part of the vaunted “rotation.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Run edge defender and depth. I don’t think he’s a bad player, he’s just not effective getting after the passer. I’m sure they’d field offers for him if there were interested teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Rotating with Murphy. Whoever's playing better is getting more snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Shaq might not make the 53 man roster. Ditto for John Miller. If he stays, I see him as part of the vaunted “rotation.” Shaq is very good against the run. With better play inside, he may be more effective against the pass. I do not see him getting cut. Edited May 4, 2018 by billsfan1959 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Shaq is battling for a roster spot this summer. Could come down to him and Eddie Yarbrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Rotation DE who will kick inside on obvious passing downs. I think A. Washington gets cut....too weak against the run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Shaq gets a bad rap around here. He is a good edge setter against the run and that is worth something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Shaq is battling for a roster spot this summer. Could come down to him and Eddie Yarbrough. Not close to being true. Shaw is the best edge-setter we have and our HC likes rotating DL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, njbuff said: Shaq gets a bad rap around here. He is a good edge setter against the run and that is worth something. It's worth a lot and there was a noticeable difference once he went on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 He’s on a first round rookie contract. Doubt they would release him. I could see him get traded, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 He was injured in year 1 and basically missed camp. He wasn't a world beater but neither was Yarbrough or Davis. I doubt he's cut as his cap hit will more than double if released. Traded maybe, but only if they believe that they have the depth at DE to cover his loss. As for him as a player - obviously we'd all like to see more from him. But he's on a rookie contract, he's 23 years old, and there's a ton of potential there - hopefully he's motivated to get a 5th year option or raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I thought the Bills might have traded Hughes on draft weekend to move up as a possible scenario, but the Bills have kept Hughes and added Murphy -- both capable starting DE's in the NFL. So what is the plan for the underachieving Shaq Lawson? Will they try him out at Sam LB in place of the aging Lorenzo Alexander? Will he be a 1st round bench warmer? Will they try to deal him or save him? If they are going to use him in pass rush situations.........if he hasn't made miraculous strides on his get-off........ I hope they let him stand up so he can be moving forward at the snap. There is no point of getting into a 3 point stance to rush the passer if you can't fire out of it quickly. Once the OT is balanced the battle is effectively lost, hence the importance of that first step in evaluating pass rush prospects. I've wondered if that's why Rex thought he might do well at OLB in his scheme because the Clemson tape of his get-off is just as brutal as the pro tape......just playing against lesser offensive lineman and with more disruptive teammates and usually with big leads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Rotational depth behind Murphy isnt a bad thing. Early running downs. Injuries happen through the season too, and he'd be good to have around, especially on a rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Not close to being true. Shaw is the best edge-setter we have and our HC likes rotating DL. If they can trade him for a 3rd-4th round pick, they will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Not sure if he has 3rd or 4th round trade potential but if he does you would have to take it... But likely that doesn’t happen so you roll the dice one more year and hope he shows considerable improvement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Shaq is very good against the run. With better play inside, he may be more effective against the pass. I do not see him getting cut. I don’t see him getting cut but if he falls on the depth chart, I do see a possible trade in his future. Very similar to Reggie Ragland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Edge setting DE who will play on 1st down and situationally as part of the rotation. Exactly. And who knows he may even blossom into a pass-rusher this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 He will have to play with his hair on fire in the spring and summer. I could see them flipping him for a young Wr in a similar situation on the team they are on. If he does not improve he will be traded for a day 3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 The plan with the pass rush is volume, Shaq will get the chance to be a starter but so will other players. I think the Bills hope that 2 out of the 5 players they have on the roster will pan out. Hughes, Lorax, Shaq, Murphy, and the kid they brought in from the Giants. All 5 players have the potential to turn in a productive season but all of them also have issues that should be concerning. Hughes - Not coming off of a productive season and a bit older Lorax - Played out of position last season showed promise at DE in the last few games but also really old Shaq - Played OK until he got hurt (set the edge against the run but didn't set the world on fire as a pass rusher) Murphy - Coming off of a serious injury The rest of the players on the roster at DE don't have much experience so I think the Bills are just scratching a bunch of lottery tickets at this point and hoping 2 or so have a good season. Personally I have good feeling about Lorax and Shaq. I think Hughes is shot but I hope I am wrong. Murphy I think will be a nice rotational player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Edge setting DE who will play on 1st down and situationally as part of the rotation. /Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Exactly. And who knows he may even blossom into a pass-rusher this year. Could be. He says he has reshaped his body with a new training and diet regimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 54 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Shaq is battling for a roster spot this summer. Could come down to him and Eddie Yarbrough. Thanks Rex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Could be. He says he has reshaped his body with a new training and diet regimen. What he really needs is a better first step! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Green Lightning said: What he really needs is a better first step! Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) BEWARE: Players get big muscles in their contract year Edited May 4, 2018 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Edge setting DE who will play on 1st down and situationally as part of the rotation. Pretty much my same thoughts, he'll be in rotation on running downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: BEWARE: Players get big muscles in their contract year His contract year will be 2019 or 2020 if his 5th year option is exercised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 He sucks, and Rex drafted him as a favor for Clemson taking on his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Hopefully to play better than he has & become a bigger part of the D this year to help the process !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 This is wrong on 2 levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Shaq might not make the 53 man roster. Ditto for John Miller. If he stays, I see him as part of the vaunted “rotation.” Ah, I think we all need to remember that last year was his rookie year. He did well, and he will get better. Both Hughes and Murphy are getting up there in years, I don't expect Shaq is going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: I thought the Bills might have traded Hughes on draft weekend to move up as a possible scenario, but the Bills have kept Hughes and added Murphy -- both capable starting DE's in the NFL. So what is the plan for the underachieving Shaq Lawson? Will they try him out at Sam LB in place of the aging Lorenzo Alexander? Will he be a 1st round bench warmer? Will they try to deal him or save him? Actually, not a bad plan to play him at SAM. On obvious run downs....imagine when Murphy misses the sack, Shaw can get there. I have no doubt. Problem is, he's been adding, instead of losing weight. Be a shame to not find him a place on this D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Shaq is a decent player but was obviously overdrafted though many pundits did have a first round grade on him. That being said unless he reinvented himself in the off-season all he is is a decent depth player on a rookie contract. Rotating Hughes, Murphy, Yarborough and Shaq is not a horrible situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Didn't he lead the team in sacks last year? I think he will be a good, solid player for the bills. he is better than his stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnnyK said: Didn't he lead the team in sacks last year? I think he will be a good, solid player for the bills. he is better than his stats! Who did have the most sacks? And he was hurt for several games. A lot of Tex hate and get rid of everyone associated with Rex. Give him a break. Give Shaq a chance . Big year for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's worth a lot and there was a noticeable difference once he went on IR. There was? Oh wait, there was but the defense was actually better with Shaq out lf the lineup. Shaq went down during Week 13 and the Bills went 3-1 down th stretch to clinch a playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts