BuffaloBaumer Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I know this is going to sound crazy but nobody is going to run against that Jax D. If Shady is not going to play, does it force a game-plan that no defense has seen yet? Does this let Taylor run wild on odd formations and force our receivers and TEs to be a much bigger part of the plan? Just trying to look at the positives but in a weird way, I think that not having the Jags D focus their game-plan around Shady could be a positive. One thing I believe is that our offense is going to be completely different without us putting such a huge emphasis on the run-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Well... IF good means Tyrod throwing we are missing our most prolific pass catcher this year (followed by Clay). I hope the other backs can catch well out of the backfield. Also, I THOUGHT the Jags pass D was good and their run D was suspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Shady is also our leading receiver in terms of catches. In short, no. He is the single most important player on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Well... IF good means Tyrod throwing we are missing our most prolific pass catcher this year (followed by Clay). I hope the other backs can catch well out of the backfield. Also, I THOUGHT the Jags pass D was good and their run D was suspect? Nope , both excellent, great pass rush too. Overall one of the top defenses in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I've stated this in other threads and I'm happy to state it again, I think we will be okay without Shady in the lineup Sunday. I was extremely impressed with Marcus Murphy, and think he will surprise alot of people Sunday and have a big game. I think Tyrod's mobility and ability to escape the rush, and extend plays will be a huge factor in the Bills success. I don't think I would ever go as far as to say that Shady being out is a GOOD thing, because he accounts for a huge percentage of our offensive production, but I do think we can win Sunday without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Shady is also our leading receiver in terms of catches. In short, no. He is the single most important player on the team. Right. Losing Shady means losing your best receiver and your best runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If Shady is out, then who is TT going to dump the ball off on every play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I know this is going to sound crazy but nobody is going to run against that Jax D. If Shady is not going to play, does it force a game-plan that no defense has seen yet? Does this let Taylor run wild on odd formations and force our receivers and TEs to be a much bigger part of the plan? Just trying to look at the positives but in a weird way, I think that not having the Jags D focus their game-plan around Shady could be a positive. One thing I believe is that our offense is going to be completely different without us putting such a huge emphasis on the run-game. Why can't we run against the Jags d? They have the 21st ranked rush d - and are 3-6 in games where they gave up over 100 yards. Figuring out how to run it on this team will be the key. They also had a takeaway in 14 out of 16 games. Kept opponents under 300 total yards 9 times. Edited January 3, 2018 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I know this is going to sound crazy but nobody is going to run against that Jax D. If Shady is not going to play, does it force a game-plan that no defense has seen yet? Does this let Taylor run wild on odd formations and force our receivers and TEs to be a much bigger part of the plan? Just trying to look at the positives but in a weird way, I think that not having the Jags D focus their game-plan around Shady could be a positive. One thing I believe is that our offense is going to be completely different without us putting such a huge emphasis on the run-game. Remember when the Jags were the worst run defense in the NFL the first half the year...then we gave them Dareus for a bag of rocks and suddenly we can't run on them lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Losing Shady is not good in any way. If he plays he won´t be 100% so we might see a different game plan, one with Shady as decoy I think while also throwing to him here and there. Murphy will carry the load or it will be divided in 3 ways with Murphy, Tolbert and Shady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It'd be better than Shady playing hurt, IMO. Would you rather an 80% Shady for whole playoff period, or 0% against the Jags and 100% against the Pats/Steelers/whoever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Absolutely not. Shady is our offense. I'd rather have him playing at 80% than not playing - he's that much better than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Remember when the Jags were the worst run defense in the NFL the first half the year...then we gave them Dareus for a bag of rocks and suddenly we can't run on them lol. 5 100 yard games since we traded them dareus. The stat's got a bit skewed when they held the browns and bengals running attacks... Considering they were 2 of the worst rushing teams in the league it shouldn't be a surprise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I know this is going to sound crazy It does. Stop right there. The game is challenging enough if Shady plays. Without him, more so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I honestly think we have a shot with or without. They are not as good as the stats indicate IMO. Colts twice with no QB, Texans twice without watson starting either, cleveland, and cincy. They held all those teams under 300 yards, recorded 12 takeaways, and 35 of their 55 sacks in those 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I’m sure the best defense in the league is concerned with having Tolbert carry the load or Tyrod trying to win with his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Sweats said: If Shady is out, then who is TT going to dump the ball off on every play? Oh come on you know the answer to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Shady will play...Kyle Brandt on GMFB said this a.m. that he even heard Shady was a maybe to return last sunday "if he was really needed"... he's resting his ankle for good reason, but there maybe also a bit of sandbagging going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 ??♂️??♂️??♂️ Only if you feel like watching “Sacksonville” rack up more Sacks Someone is gonna have to run it to keep the Jags elite cornerbacks on their toes as well. 1 minute ago, Billzebubba said: Shady will play...Kyle Brandt on GMFB said this a.m. that he even heard Shady was a maybe to return last sunday "if he was really needed"... he's resting his ankle for good reason, but there maybe also a bit of sandbagging going on People who know people have posted its getting worse and the line went up 2 points. Hope there is sandbagging but doesn’t sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No, but I think I understand what you're saying. Dennison has not shown us much with his game planning other than a heavy dose of Shady. If he can't lean on him, then he may have to game plan outside his comfort zone and hopefully come up with something unusual that will help us beat the jags. I think that is too much faith in Dennison though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Well... IF good means Tyrod throwing we are missing our most prolific pass catcher this year (followed by Clay). I hope the other backs can catch well out of the backfield. Also, I THOUGHT the Jags pass D was good and their run D was suspect? Murphy is an excellent pass catcher, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Oh sure, losing who is, by far, your best offensive player is always a good thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 His impact in the pass game is irreplaceable regardless. He has a sixth sense at finding the first down and still makes great defenders look silly. 1500 yards from scrimmage , no it would be an awful thing. Though, we do need some exotic looks on O.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, dneveu said: Why can't we run against the Jags d? They have the 21st ranked rush d - and are 3-6 in games where they gave up over 100 yards. Figuring out how to run it on this team will be the key. They also had a takeaway in 14 out of 16 games. Kept opponents under 300 total yards 9 times. Roll pocket, powers and sweeps. Get those big men moving east and west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, BuffaloMatt said: Roll pocket, powers and sweeps. Get those big men moving east and west. Gotta get big men to the 2nd level to hammer those backers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No. Uh, no. Um, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Kemp said: No. Uh, no. Um, no. It's never a good thing to miss a playmaker I agree. Especially when the backup is essentially a fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 I still think it forces the Bills to come up with a game-plan that nobody has seen yet...and that may, I repeat MAY actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I wouldn't change our game plan AT ALL. The only way McCoy being out is a good thing is that it is better than trying to make him go when he is not capable. The worst outcome is wasting plays on a guy who is not physically able to perform and taking maybe 3 or 4 series to admit that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 This would play into their strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Shady had 59 catches. He's a big part of the passing game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said: Shady will play...Kyle Brandt on GMFB said this a.m. that he even heard Shady was a maybe to return last sunday "if he was really needed"... he's resting his ankle for good reason, but there maybe also a bit of sandbagging going on i had heard that there was videos of him getting off the plane, and partying with tre white, (haven't seen them) and that his ankle and movements seemed fine. i don't think that really means much either way, but thought i would throw that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 slightly unrelated but has anyone seen the ghost of zay jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, teef said: i had heard that there was videos of him getting off the plane, and partying with tre white, (haven't seen them) and that his ankle and movements seemed fine. i don't think that really means much either way, but thought i would throw that out there. You know how much stress is put on ankles when cutting rug? Sounds like he’s ready. Cakewalk. Edited January 3, 2018 by Jay_Fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I get the idea that maybe, just maybe, the lack of focusing on Shady could throw them off. But unless Tyrod has a rare playing like a real QB day, no...not a good thing to miss 1/3 of our O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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