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43 minutes ago, Antonio said:

Losing Shady is not good in any way.

 

If he plays he won´t be 100% so we might see a different game plan, one with Shady as decoy I think while also throwing to him here and there. Murphy will carry the load or it will be divided in 3 ways with Murphy, Tolbert and Shady. 

I agree that if Shady does in fact play, (which personally I highly doubt) he won't be close to 100%.  I think Murphy has a big game. If they split carries equally between Murphy and Tolbert I will projectile vomit onto my tv screen.  I am bewildered by the coaching staff's insistence on making Tolbert a close to every down back!!

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1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said:

You know how much stress is put on ankles when cutting rug?

 

Sounds like he’s ready. Cakewalk.

he could dance through cake without even taping those ankles up.  

 

is it weird that we're talking about ankles, and your wife's ankles have spent a good amount of time behind my head?

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47 minutes ago, Paulus said:

It'd be better than Shady playing hurt, IMO.

 

Would you rather an 80% Shady for whole playoff period, or 0% against the Jags and 100% against the Pats/Steelers/whoever?

 

Personally, I think we him, even at 80%, to get to this stage.

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24 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

Oh sure, losing who is, by far, your best offensive player is always a good thing...

The Steelers beat the Browns with back-ups - it has a history of success.  Thus Hyde and Poyer should be benched also - make the defense better.

 

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36 minutes ago, dneveu said:

I honestly think we have a shot with or without.  They are not as good as the stats indicate IMO. 

 

Colts twice with no QB, Texans twice without watson starting either, cleveland, and cincy.  They held all those teams under 300 yards, recorded 12 takeaways, and 35 of their 55 sacks in those 6 games. 

 

This is where I'm at. Cup half full approach, but definitely worth considering. Numbers don't lie, but they don't always tell the full truth. Dareus hasn't been playing a ton of snaps for them either.

 

Missing McCoy would be a big blow, no matter how you spin it. Murphy is a more than capable back in our scheme (and I actually thought his running style was very similar to McCoy's on Sunday), but I don't think the game plan will change all too much, with or without Shady. It's likely going to be a low scoring, defensive struggle type game, which IMO favors Buffalo (as opposed to more of a shootout type game). We'll still lean heavily on the run to open things up in the passing game. IF Shady does not play, perhaps the Jags focus more on stopping the pass, and further open up the run. I don't remember the Bills running too many screens this year, and (more so) draws , but this would probably be a great game to implement them more. Some well timed designed runs by Taylor would be nice as well.

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Just now, teef said:

he could dance through cake without even taping those ankles up.  

 

is it weird that we're talking about ankles, and your wife's ankles have spent a good amount of time behind my head?

 

Well she is big into Greco Roman wrestling. You must have been this gimp she was practicing with the other day.

 

Was there need for the luchadore mask?

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6 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

 

Well she is big into Greco Roman wrestling. You must have been this gimp she was practicing with the other day.

 

Was there need for the luchadore mask?

yes.  i don't want to see the face of the person i'm violating.  

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He is the bet player on the roster.  Not having him would be a big blow.  It seemed like he rolled is ankle.  Its not broke depends on the level of swelling and degree of sprain.  If he is anywhere above 75% he is playing and will perform ok.  The offense needs a special set of plays for when tolbert is in the game.  You cannot call the same plays you would with shady.   Give him a lead blocker and maybe go 2 TE  and run power runs.  Russel Wilson abused the the Jags defense, Tayor will need to have a big game.  He is capable of doing so and teams that we do not regularly face him have trouble containing him.  If the Jaguars run heavily man coverage with their corners Taylor could have a big game on the ground and in the air.   

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24 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

I agree that if Shady does in fact play, (which personally I highly doubt) he won't be close to 100%.  I think Murphy has a big game. If they split carries equally between Murphy and Tolbert I will projectile vomit onto my tv screen.  I am bewildered by the coaching staff's insistence on making Tolbert a close to every down back!!

 

I don´t mind feeding Tolbert, I just don´t want him getting him streach run plays or a 3rd and long situation with him on the field. 

 

He ran ok up the middle against the Fish and we should stick to that plan. 

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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Remember when the Jags were the worst run defense in the NFL the first half the year...then we gave them Dareus for a bag of rocks and suddenly we can't run on them lol.  

 

We basically gave our opponent, in our 1st playoff game in 17 years,  and said "heres our best DLine player, we cant manage big personalities or his eating habbit so take em for a bag of footballs and make sure you use him against us in the WC with our ex coach that dumped us to coach your o line and became HC."

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1 hour ago, Gavin in Va Beach said:

No, but I think I understand what you're saying. Dennison has not shown us much with his game planning other than a heavy dose of Shady. If he can't lean on him, then he may have to game plan outside his comfort zone and hopefully come up with something unusual that will help us beat the jags. I think that is too much faith in Dennison though.

 

Did you miss the TD pass to I think IT was O'Leary on Sunday?  The play totally faked out the Fish so that O'Leary was standing by himself in the EZ. Excellent play design and call. Flawless execution by the O.  Plus Hotrod can  throw the !ong ball.

 

I actually think since the slump Rico has been doing a decent job going 4-2 with only losses going to the Patsies**

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23 minutes ago, Antonio said:

 

I don´t mind feeding Tolbert, I just don´t want him getting him streach run plays or a 3rd and long situation with him on the field. 

 

He ran ok up the middle against the Fish and we should stick to that plan. 

He did run well the few times he was given the rock last Sunday, I can't argue with you there.  That one play where he absolutely demolished Timmons was a sportscenter top 10 play no doubt.  But I hate when the coaches get to thinking he's Marshall Faulk back there and start using him on toss sweeps, and plays he has no business running....

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The Jags literally had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Their one big hallmark win was destroying the Steelers when Big Ben and then were in a funk. But still an impressive victory.

 

this game rest on the shoulders of the Bills D as I don't see the O scoring much at all unless the D provides some key turnovers and short fields. 

 

McCoy be important but for the Bills to win it has come down to Bortles or Taylor winning it.  Both teams focus on taking away the run so it's up to the QBs to make plays. Who do you trust more to get the win? 

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No, if Shady is out, or even if plays but can't be Shady due to his injury, we're screwed.

 

End of story.

 

 

9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

The Jags literally had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Their one big hallmark win was destroying the Steelers when Big Ben and then were in a funk. But still an impressive victory.

 

this game rest on the shoulders of the Bills D as I don't see the O scoring much at all unless the D provides some key turnovers and short fields. 

 

McCoy be important but for the Bills to win it has come down to Bortles or Taylor winning it.  Both teams focus on taking away the run so it's up to the QBs to make plays. Who do you trust more to get the win? 

This is like saying "What would you prefer to contract?  Syphilis or Hepatitis C?"

 

 

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Of course it's not a GOOD thing for McCoy to be out.

 

But it reminds me of a Houston Oilers playoff game in the 1980s.  Earl Campbell was even a bigger part of Oilers offense than McCoy is to ours and total monster and D wrecker.  However in that game, the Oilers relied heavily on D and other RBs and passing to WIN the game.  Dan Pastorini was the QB.  So it's not like they had some monster "Franchise QB" to carry them through.

 

We could do something similar.  

 

Unlike many on here I don't think that Rico is a boob.  I have seen him do some impressive things with play calling etc this year.  Hotrod's TD pass on Sunday was one and the pass on the goal line Hotrod missed were examples.  Those guys were wide open and the Fish were totally faked out.  Jocks all over the field.  Putting in the Webb package vs the Patsies** was another.

 

I suspect he'll play.  If he can get on the field (even with crutches) he'll play.  

 

I like our chances either way.

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Injuries: Bills RB LeSean McCoy (ankle) day-to-day   

McCoy, the centerpiece of the Bills' offense, will receive treatment throughout the week, but will not be fully healthy even if he's able to get on the field Sunday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000902300/article/injuries-bills-rb-lesean-mccoy-ankle-daytoday

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4 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I know this is going to sound crazy but nobody is going to run against that Jax D. If Shady is not going to play, does it force a game-plan that no defense has seen yet? Does this let Taylor run wild on odd formations and force our receivers and TEs to be a much bigger part of the plan?

 

Just trying to look at the positives but in a weird way, I think that not having the Jags D focus their game-plan around Shady could be a positive. One thing I believe is that our offense is going to be completely different without us putting such a huge emphasis on the run-game.

This might be the dumbest post on these boards. And that, my friend, really says something 

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4 hours ago, Paulus said:

It'd be better than Shady playing hurt, IMO.

 

Would you rather an 80% Shady for whole playoff period, or 0% against the Jags and 100% against the Pats/Steelers/whoever?

I'd sit Shady and get him 100% for NE.  Give Murphy 75% of the touches and Tolbert 25%. Throw to Murphy alot.

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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

I posted this somewhere 

 

Wild Horses and Stampeding Buffalo won't keep Shady off of the field Sunday.  

No doubt. This boy has been waiting for this...he knows what he has do to...whether a few runs, a few catches ....a few PA passes fakes...decoy Mccoy or whatever. We will be there supporting him and our bills. We can get this one family!

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4 minutes ago, Jerry Christ said:

No doubt. This boy has been waiting for this...he knows what he has do to...whether a few runs, a few catches ....a few PA passes fakes...decoy Mccoy or whatever. We will be there supporting him and our bills. We can get this one family!

 

One Buffalo isn't just a dumb slogan.   It has meaning. 

drive time BBL

 

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Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I’m sorry. Is he your boyfriend or something?

 

No, but just saying a post is dumb with no explanation or reasoning is dumb.  That's all.

 

Why was it dumb?  The poster made several points/suggestions.  Which one was dumb and why?

 

Just saying it's dumb adds nothing to the conversation.

 

Has nothing to do with boyfriends/girlfriends etc.

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10 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

No, but just saying a post is dumb with no explanation or reasoning is dumb.  That's all.

 

Why was it dumb?  The poster made several points/suggestions.  Which one was dumb and why?

 

Just saying it's dumb adds nothing to the conversation.

 

Has nothing to do with boyfriends/girlfriends etc.

Your response to my original post also fits this criteria? ??‍♂️

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4 hours ago, Wo-Bah said:

 

Personally, I think we him, even at 80%, to get to this stage.

Yeah, that is the gamble. I don't feel too comfortable with the backups; you have a point.

42 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I'd sit Shady and get him 100% for NE.  Give Murphy 75% of the touches and Tolbert 25%. Throw to Murphy alot.

It's a gamble, but I think he plays. 

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