dulles Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wow. Out of nowhere. They must really think Brady can last another few years, or they don't think Garropolo is as good as everyone thinks he is. I'd guess #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What if Hoyer actually wants to play in the last couple years of his career? I was thinking just for the rest of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 In my dreams...somebody puts a waiver claim on Hoyer ahead of the Patriots and every team facing them sends the house against Brady the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 In my dreams...somebody puts a waiver claim on Hoyer ahead of the Patriots and every team facing them sends the house against Brady the rest of the year. He's a vested veteran who's not subject to the waiver process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 In my dreams...somebody puts a waiver claim on Hoyer ahead of the Patriots and every team facing them sends the house against Brady the rest of the year. It's really crazy if they do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 for an almost 2nd rounder I’m sure you can get about anyone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure, Billicheat will talk to Marone and get Darius. If another team's GM took a crap in Belicheat's mouth, I'm sure some of you would say, "What a genius! BB stole nutrition from that GM and gave up nothing. Why can't our GM get guys to crap in his mouth?" Some here would be willing to clean Bellicheat's mouth with their tongue and pay for it. Not that I would wish injury on a player, but I have to say, what if Brady gets hurt? There is no other QB on New England's roster, not on the 53 man roster, not on the practice squad, not on their injured reserve. They will need to sign a free agent off the street. It would serve Belichick right for trading his backup QB. Beillicheat probably has a player who has played QB in past and is secretly training for them to be backup QB mastering the cheating signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Possibly one less QB drafted early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 They don't need to ... by trading both of Brady's backups it must mean that the Brady clones are ready to play now. In their next game a battered and bloody Brady will be carted to the locker room only to have a fresh and healthy Brady clone back on the field on the next possession. I have seen this movie before - Arnold Schwarzenegger's "The Sixth Day" - the QB is injured (non fatally) and the mad scientist (in this version played by Bellicheck) kills the QB Johnny Phoenix and replaces him with his clone. It came out same year as T*m Br*dy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Oh wow! That's damn near a 1st round pick. Exactly, so IMO expect NE to be drafting a QB also in 2018 Whos their backup QB now? Maybe BB beginning to pile up draft picks and package them for Rosen. That would 100% stink, that's not even funny to joke about Edited October 31, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) But I was told that the Pats already had their next franchise QB that was going to kill us for another decade just waiting in the wings. Edited October 31, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I'm apparently one of the few who thought JG was going to be a very good QB...I'm super happy he's no longer with NE...Watch him him turn around the 49ers organisation in a couple of years From the pats point of view, I agree with those who say their only goal is to win the SB...if Brady goes down this year, they're not winning it...with JG or anyone else....so it makes sense to get a 2nd rounder.... I never though Crapoo was anything special and had guessed he was looking to move him when the right price came along, Castle 2.0 in my opinion. Edited October 31, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Fleece job. He's not good. The 49ers got taken here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Im going to laugh so hard when Brady goes down next week. They are spitting in the face of karma. Not having a viable back up for a 40 year player makes 0 sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Very shrewd move by Hoodie and company. Guess they must truly believe Brady is playing until he's 45 and given Belichik's history with drafting QB's they'll probably get a guy better than Jimmy G with the 2nd round pick they got from San Fran anyway. But are you concerned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wasn't there a lot of talk in the offseason that Cleveland went after Garoppolo hard, and even offered the #12 pick in the draft for him? I wondering now if that was all just rumor and BS speculation. Why wouldn't Belichick have taken the 1st? Unless he is truly still bitter about being fired by Cleveland all those years ago and refused to help them at QB (as I've seen speculated by some). But I can't really see him being the type to pass up the #12 pick out of spite. If he did, he's letting his emotion get the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Fleece job. He's not good. The 49ers got taken here.I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I think it was a fairly obvious conservative move to get what they could for him, which was a decent return (Matt Schaub got two second rounders), and risk that Brady doesn't get hurt this season. They knew they couldn't keep him. I don't think it says anything about what they really think about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) The 49ers 2nd round pick will be 1-3 picks after the first round. So its not much different than a late first rounder. So the Patriots can again select a pretty highly regarded backup QB with a 4 year contract for a guy that they most likely wouldn't of re-signed. What draft picks have the Pats turned into from trading Cassell, Brissett and Garopolo. That Pats have had misses in the draft but they also have had their hits. More picks has largely been their model. Nice to see the Bills following suit. . Great trade by the Pats in my book. He's a vested veteran who's not subject to the waiver process. Well damn, then I hope a team like the Packers offer him more dough. Edited October 31, 2017 by billsfan714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000870174/article/the-debrief-2017-nfl-trade-deadline-extra-winners-and-losers Seems he took lessons from Peters agent now in Hell. Winners Jimmy Garoppolo's agent, Donald Yee: Tom Brady and Garoppolo share an agent, which always seemed like an unfortunate coincidence at best and a conflict of interest at worst. Now Yee's other quarterback joins a 49ers team presumably willing to let him start sooner than later, an opportunity Garoppolo has been waiting for since getting drafted in the second round in 2014 from Eastern Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Not to wish injury on even a nemesis That would be freaking hilarious. I'm not above that. I don't want him to die or something, just end his career. He's got the money, fame, rings, model wife that makes even more $ than him, and is a lock for the HOF. It's been a good (scandalous) run, but it's time to ride off into the sunset with a blown up knee or throwing shoulder. I'm ready for an NFL without the evidence destroyer pretty boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Bellicheat and Kraft Cheese must have took DNA samples from Marcia's blood and went to the lab and injected some poor soul and already have their next Brady ready to "enter the NFL" as an undrafted or late round pick. The cheating never ends. The conspiracy continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Haha. Bet you brady gets injured next week. my first thought when I heard the news. They are on thin ice now and Brady is way overdue for an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cousins to us I praySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk While it would be interesting to see if the legion of Tyrod dissenters are as critical on cousins, he's just not a good value.. redskins seem to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Likes The Bills Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cousins to us I praySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Um why ? He is beyond overrated and to be completely honest I'd take Tyrod over Cousins 7 days out of the week. Plus you have to give Cousins almost 25 mill a year? Hey man you got it 👍🏾 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @gregvorse #Patriots trade QB Jimmy Garoppolo to the #49ers for 2018 2nd-round pick, per @AdamSchefter. @adamschefter With Jimmy Garoppolo traded to SF, the Patriots now buying into the idea that Tom Brady can play well into his 40s. This now means that Kirk Cousins will have one less landing spot in free agency. There will be plenty of interest. But SF is out. 49ers and Patriots began talking trade Monday morning and, by tonight, the trade was officially agreed upon. Garoppolo to San Francisco. Could Kirk come to Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wouldn't it be a b*tch if the Pats parlayed all their picks for Luck? Bold move cotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Brady is getting hit a lot this season, that's all I'll say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) @andrewbrandt 49ers QBs past 8 months: told @Kaepernick7 he was not wanted, gave Hoyer $7M gteed, 2017 3rd rder on Beathard, 2018 2nd rd for Garrappolo. Edited October 31, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Thats what Im saying the Dean I dont know how much of an advantage having an inside track gives you. When the season ends, if he wants to get paid, I dont think he decides to stay in San Fran for less money just because they traded for him. That didnt do anything for him besides make him feel wanted in the moment and make him move. Now, if all offers are equal, then he might decide to just stay. But with the amount of suitors and offers hes going to receive, I dont think already being in San Fran is going to make a big enough difference to stay. Also, if this college QB class keeps declining in play, and Cousins leaves the market quick, the bidding war for Garoppolo could get nuts and its anyones game. Case and point, look at what happened with Osweiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Why would Garapollo even deserve a long term contract? Because he was a Patriot that the Patriots wanted to get rid of when they have a 40 year old QB and no backup? Like come on, San Francisco, stupid trade all around. Now they are in the position of having to give a comparably large contract to a guy that has 2 career games under his belt. The fact that the Patriots are even willing to trade him should send red flags and warning signs all over the place. 49ers can get fleeced, but we got maximum value for Dareus lmao. Edited October 31, 2017 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Shocking Trade for a guy with 2 NFL starts who could't stay healthy through Tom Brady's 4 game suspension. Happy Halloween everyone!!! Lots of unhappy Pats fan costumes today!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Why would Garapollo even deserve a long term contract? Because he was a Patriot that the Patriots wanted to get rid of when they have a 40 year old QB and no backup? Like come on, San Francisco, stupid trade all around. Now they are in the position of having to give a comparably large contract to a guy that has 2 career games under his belt. The fact that the Patriots are even willing to trade him should send red flags and warning signs all over the place. 49ers can get fleeced, but we got maximum value for Dareus lmao. The Patriots actually wanted to sign him to an extension, but Jimmy G wouldn't agree to their terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I know this is crazy, but does anyone think, either behind close doors or in just In their own heads, the Pats gave even a 2% thought of getting rid of Brady? "Hmmmm, would we take two number 1s?" Edited October 31, 2017 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Quick let's trade Peterman for a 2nd round pick because apparently the league is just throwing our 2nd round picks to unproven players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Quick let's trade Peterman for a 2nd round pick because apparently the league is just throwing our 2nd round picks to unproven playersTo be fair... garoppolo was drafted in the 2nd not the 5th, and they have a ton of space to tag or extend him. He also looked pretty good in his 2 starts. I dont know how much of an advantage having an inside track gives you. When the season ends, if he wants to get paid, I dont think he decides to stay in San Fran for less money just because they traded for him. That didnt do anything for him besides make him feel wanted in the moment and make him move. Now, if all offers are equal, then he might decide to just stay. But with the amount of suitors and offers hes going to receive, I dont think already being in San Fran is going to make a big enough difference to stay. Also, if this college QB class keeps declining in play, and Cousins leaves the market quick, the bidding war for Garoppolo could get nuts and its anyones game. Case and point, look at what happened with Osweiler. He gets tagged if he won't sign an extension. If they get cousins or draft someone they can always rescind the tag as well. Edited October 31, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @rapsheet The #49ers will try to extend QB Jimmy Garoppolo, but an extension was not part of the deal, Im told. Nothing is close or imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This could actually seriously hose Garoppolo if you think about it. If he stayed with the Pats, he was going to get a big contract without proving anything. Now, he has to go out and prove hes worth it on a winless team. Im not saying hes going to tank or hes not good, because I have no idea. I do think that this is more of an overall risk than a positive for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 So you already know that Garrapolo is no good? Because if hes as good as some think, its a great trade for SF. "Some" thought Matt Cassel and Brock Osweiler were good, too, based on their play as backups but the reality is that if their original teams thought that they were truly as good as they looked in a small sample of games, there's no way they'd have let them go. Green Bay sent the legendary Brett Favre packing because they realized that the kid from Cali riding the pine wasn't just younger but better. Matt Cassell got rich off the Patriots QB gravy train. I see Garapalo being closer to Cassell than Tom Brady. Agree. There's this mystique about the Belichick and the Pats somehow having the "magic touch" about finding QBs because they drafted Brady in the 6th round, but the reality is that they were walking across the barnyard, slipped on some bull manure, and came up smelling like roses rather than, well, manure when they grabbed Brady. None of the QBs they've drafted since Brady have turned out to be more than competent backups, and most haven't even been that. Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer are the best of the lot and none of them are better than Ryan Fitzpatrick ... and certainly not nearly as good as Tyrod Taylor. No i have some Pat friends. They actually thought Jimmy G would re-sign for between 5-7 a year and be happy to come back to the Patriots. Seriously He wants a chance to be a starter, which ought to be the goal of any young backup QB, so he was never going to re-sign with NE. It wasn't really about the $$$ but the opportunity. Yes, no doubt, but the clamoring for Cousins is without merit. Great passing stats, losing record. He is not considered a leader by the team management or players. You will hear all sorts of excuses for his play, but the bottom line is that he just does not have it. The Redskins are moving on. Buyer beware. Cousins is a decent QB but he's not Superman. Crucify him. As a Bills fan, you should know all about that. The reality is that QBs need protection and targets to show their talent and skill but they also need the support from a good running game and defense to win lots of games. They also need good/great coaching. What support does Cousins have in Washington? How many more Super Bowls would Peyton Manning or Drew Brees have won if Indy or NO had given them better defenses? How many more Super Bowls would Aaron Rodgers have won if GB had better running games? If not for Belichick's coaching genius, just how many SBs would Tom Brady have won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Hopefully Garoppalo does well enough in SF that they wont want to draft a QB (I think thats s their plan). Thats where the Bills can trade up with SF and grab one of the two best QBs available (assuming that Cleveland will be in the number 1 spot and will take a QB). Edited October 31, 2017 by The 9 Isles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This could actually seriously hose Garoppolo if you think about it. If he stayed with the Pats, he was going to get a big contract without proving anything. Now, he has to go out and prove hes worth it on a winless team. Im not saying hes going to tank or hes not good, because I have no idea. I do think that this is more of an overall risk than a positive for him. Pretty much the same risk Tyrod took taking less to come here when Denver wanted him. I realize one was in FA and this is a trade, but I seems in both cases the players had input in the deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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