Wayne Arnold Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Belichick takes advantage of yet another dumb organization. Suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Quick let's trade Peterman for a 2nd round pick because apparently the league is just throwing our 2nd round picks to unproven players  Garoppolo did start two games, play reasonably, and win them.  Didn't throw for 300 yds though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â That's fine. We will just sit here with our 6th round pick and think we sure are lucky someone was willing to give us that! Â IDK what you are talking about! The Jags took Dareus's entire contract for that sixth rounder. That is a HUGE amount of money we are saving and we got the draft pick. a draft pick need i remind anyone he wasn't even worth. He barely showed up for games, was POS character guy, so yeah, I will gladly take the 6th for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I know this is crazy, but does anyone think, either behind close doors or in just In their own heads, the Pats gave even a 2% thought of getting rid of Brady? Â "Hmmmm, would we take two number 1s?" Â No. Brady will retire a Pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 BB lost his damn mind. Maybe senility has finally set in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Honestly I think SF is dumb for making that move. They aren't saving their season this year. It hurts them to get better at this point and there is really no saying they would be better. They were on their way to the top pick in the draft. Â Grab a QB at the top and have another practically late 1st round pick. If Jimmy was so good the Pats would have kept him and traded Brady at the end of the season while signing Jimmy long term. Â SF got fleeced and the Pats got away with it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 With the 2018 QB class looking weaker as the CFB season progresses I suppose it's not a shock on the 49ers end of it. Â @BuckyBrooks .@49ers decision to trade for Jimmy G might be an indictment of the 2018 QB class. SF likely didn't see multiple franchise QBs at the top.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â Â @BuckyBrooks .@49ers decision to trade for Jimmy G might be an indictment of the 2018 QB class. SF likely didn't see multiple franchise QBs at the top.. Â Â Ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â Ya think? Â Seemed pretty obvious to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Belichick takes advantage of yet another dumb organization. Suckers. He could have gotten a 1st and more before the 2017 draft according to multiple reports, but settles now for a 2nd. Seems like he, in his great wisdom, himself this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He could have gotten a 1st and more before the 2017 draft according to multiple reports, but settles now for a 2nd. Seems like he, in his great wisdom, himself this time. Â They clearly weren't 100% comfortable that Tommy Boy was still in his prime, so they held onto Janine. Â Now that they can get Hoyer (which I'm sure was part of a wink-nod arrangement with SF) to be Tommy Boy's clipboard holder, they felt better about moving him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @rapsheet The #49ers will try to extend QB Jimmy Garoppolo, but an extension was not part of the deal, Im told. Nothing is close or imminent. If hes smart, hell sign a long term deal with them before stepping foot on the field on a Sunday. Its a good situation to go to with an offensive guru there. Hes not going to find anything much better. And he should get as much guaranteed money before he flames out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â Ya think? What if the Pats* moved Jimmy because they like the 2018 QB class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Honestly I think SF is dumb for making that move. They aren't saving their season this year. It hurts them to get better at this point and there is really no saying they would be better. They were on their way to the top pick in the draft. Â Grab a QB at the top and have another practically late 1st round pick. If Jimmy was so good the Pats would have kept him and traded Brady at the end of the season while signing Jimmy long term. Â SF got fleeced and the Pats got away with it again. Â Obviously, SF doesn't think that the 2018 QB class is all that much. Â Â Â @BuckyBrooks .@49ers decision to trade for Jimmy G might be an indictment of the 2018 QB class. SF likely didn't see multiple franchise QBs at the top.. Â Â Agreed. Before the collegiate football season starts, every draft class is "the greatest in a generation" except that it's only that generational class about once in a generation. Some really good QBs play as advertised but decide to stay in school. Some really good underclass QBs return as seniors and lose their sparkle. Most of the shiny new college QBs, even those drafted in the top half of the first round, are destined to be disappointments, and for those drafted in the bottom half of the first round or lower, probably 80-90% can't even rise to the level of competent backup. Â Garoppollo has already proven that he's a competent backup, so he's likely to be at least a decent starter, especially for a team with nowhere to go but up. If they're lucky, he could turn out as good Dalton, Tannehill or Cousins, which would make him a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Remember: Belicheat doesn't trade away good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017   @BuckyBrooks  .@49ers decision to trade for Jimmy G might be an indictment of the 2018 QB class. SF likely didn't see multiple franchise QBs at the top.. More likely, they like Garappolo and are enticed by the massive haul of picks they will garner by trading down from 1 or 2 this April. Smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) More likely, they like Garappolo and are enticed by the massive haul of picks they will garner by trading down from 1 or 2 this April. Smart move.  I can see also that scenario unfolding with so many teams in need of a QB.  @greggabe If you don’t think the Garoppolo trade is an indictment of ‘18 QB class than you don’t understand how front office people think Edited October 31, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The Pats will probably just sign Hoyer as the backup now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â No. Brady will retire a Pat. Â Yeah. Â Honestly, regardless of what Brady says I have little doubt he has three more years in him. That is more than enough time for the Pats to find 1, or go through even 2 possible replacements. Â Man, even if he announced that he is retiring at the end of 2018 they'd still have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017   I can see also that scenario unfolding with so many teams in need of a QB.  @greggabe If you don’t think the Garoppolo trade is an indictment of ‘18 QB class than you don’t understand how front office people think    I agree. There may be a good QB (or more) in the 2018 class, but damn if I can predict who it will be. Last year there was Watson, at least, as a clear NFL QB talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Maybe they like Garappolo more than Cousins after his game Sunday, He's much cheaper on the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â Â I agree. There may be a good QB (or more) in the 2018 class, but damn if I can predict who it will be. Last year there was Watson, at least, as a clear NFL QB talent. Â The class has been overhyped while it has underperformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Â The class has been overhyped while it has underperformed. Â Seems like most of the QB classes, the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just heard there is a good chance that Browns trade for AJ mccarron. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 GM John Lynch explains the reasoning behind the deal: https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/925362902143401984/vid/1280x720/PO2M31Jec-CLNfZd.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This deal makes me wonder if Belichick might be planning on retiring with Brady (when the time comes). Â With Garoppolo under center, it looked like the Pats were poised to enter the next 15 years without missing a beat. More likely, they like Garappolo and are enticed by the massive haul of picks they will garner by trading down from 1 or 2 this April. Smart move. Â it makes all the sense. They have a developed, schooled QB ready to start.... and also a likely top 3 pick to trade for a treasure trove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @PhilAPerry Here is Belichick's opening statement on the Garoppolo trade during today's conference call. "I felt we rode it out as long as we could." 11:55 AM - 31 Oct 2017 from Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 mumble mumble we're on to the BYE week, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @Gil_Brandt By trading down w/ CHI (Trubisky), 49ers got S. Thomas and Garoppolo, traded up for Foster, still have 4 picks in 1st 3 rounds of 2018 draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This deal makes me wonder if Belichick might be planning on retiring with Brady (when the time comes). Â With Garoppolo under center, it looked like the Pats were poised to enter the next 15 years without missing a beat. Â Â it makes all the sense. They have a developed, schooled QB ready to start.... and also a likely top 3 pick to trade for a treasure trove. The local consensus among the media is that BB wanted Jimmy as his next quarterback but Brady's play made it impossible to give him the job. This actually makes a ton of sense. It explains why they took less now than they could have got in April. Â Billy B. made a statement in his presser that solidified all of their opinions. He had been meeting with Garropolo every week, they say he never does that. Â Wonder if he wanted to trade Brady but got overruled and or his play wouldn't allow it. They also say that Bellicheck sent him to a team of his choice where he knows he will get the right coaching. Â In short BB and JG BBFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just heard there is a good chance that Browns trade for AJ mccarron. Stay tuned. That would be huge. I feel like McCarron and Landry Jones are similar to Garoppolo as they play behind a franchise QB who the team isnt sure about mileage left. Â McCarron, Jones, and Garoppolo all would do well on the open market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Remember: Belicheat doesn't trade away good players. Â Â Why did he trade Chandler Jones then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just heard there is a good chance that Browns trade for AJ mccarron. Stay tuned. This is the guy we need to trade for if it's only a 3rd rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 IF Bellyache had that much faith in Jimmy G, Brady would be cut in 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017  @mikerodak        The Bills and Patriots now own 7 picks in the first two rounds of the 2018 draft. An AFC East arms race. Too bad even the picks we received look like they will be lower in each round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 IF Bellyache had that much faith in Jimmy G, Brady would be cut in 18. Exactly. Except belching would get like 10 first rounders for him in trade and then Brady would retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The local consensus among the media is that BB wanted Jimmy as his next quarterback but Brady's play made it impossible to give him the job. This actually makes a ton of sense. It explains why they took less now than they could have got in April. Â Billy B. made a statement in his presser that solidified all of their opinions. He had been meeting with Garropolo every week, they say he never does that. Â Wonder if he wanted to trade Brady but got overruled and or his play wouldn't allow it. They also say that Bellicheck sent him to a team of his choice where he knows he will get the right coaching. Â I would be shocked if Brady didn't have a "no trade" or "approve trade" clause in his contract. Â Part of what makes Belicheck great is that he wants to win, period. So I don't think he "wanted" Jimmy as his next QB. He's going to stick with Brady as long as Brady performs. Â I think there are echos of the Watkins trade here: they hedged their bets and kept Garroppolo as the backup through as much of the season as they could just in case Brady's play fell off, but I'm thinking he made it clear he is not going to be content to remain a backup through his second contract, he wants starter pay and he's going to get it somewhere. So rather than either let him walk or franchise him, NE got what they could at the last possible moment. Â Press conference was interesting. Garroppolo is a "good" QB and a "great" teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 More likely, they like Garappolo and are enticed by the massive haul of picks they will garner by trading down from 1 or 2 this April. Smart move. This was my thought as well. They have sooooo many holes at just about every position on both sides of the ball. A boatload of draft picks has to be enticing. Â Plus, Garoppolo has been being groomed (by Brady, Belichick, McDaniels etc) to start for the last 4 years. He is probably much more ready to step in and start than any rookie QB from the 2018 class is going to be. Â And if he works out, they only spent a 2nd on a starting QB as opposed to a #1 or #2 overall pick (plus all the assets they miss out on by not trading the pick). Â If he doesn't work out, they can still decide to draft a QB high in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) This is the guy we need to trade for if it's only a 3rd rd pick.i really dont think the Bengals are looking to trade him but I suppose it depends how much the Browns are willing to give up Have we seen an inter-division QB trade since Bledsoe? I cant recall Edited October 31, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Report: Cleveland Browns coaching staff upset with front office over not acquiring Jimmy Garoppolo on.wkyc.com/2xI4xNj https://t.co/gowk0NtfU6?amp=1 Edited October 31, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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