frostbitmic Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 How fast is he ? ... can he get downfield and catch up to a Josh Allen throw ? I blame Beane for not signing a team full of All-Pros. 🪳 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HollMa00.htm Notes: North Carolina (Carolina State) Connection. Better than Oklahoma one I guess who seem seem to be constant complainers. Favorite off-day activity is fishing which is good for WNY unless he is a deep fisher. Left hand thrower and made one successful pass for Raiders in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: From what I heard on the radio the reason they didn't want to rework Josh's contract more is the hope is go get to a point where they don't have to restructure a lot of contracts for cap reasons. Sounds like a losing philosophy to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Mack Hollins was my #1 FA target this year 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I won't because that was never my argument. 53 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: he has talent, but not enough talent to play on a team that's supposed to be a contender. This is starting to feel like a full rebuild year. You are CLEARLY saying he's not talented enough to play on a team that's supposed to be a contender. Were the 2017 Super Bowl Champions Philadelphia Eagles good enough to be a contender that year? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: I really see us taking 2 WR's in the draft. I hope one of them is still around that is worthy of taking in rd. 1, but if not, we might have to go "back to back" rd. 2 and 4 since we don't have a 3, or try to jump into rd. 3 for the 2nd WR. There are guys in this draft that are going to go in round 2 this year that would typically be late first round picks in other drafts. There will be a guy at 28 worth that pick at WR even if 6 guys are already off the board 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Special teams guy, this is Siran Neal replacement and our #5 or #6 WR. Nice signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) I got no problem about a signing like this… unlike more than a few people here.. I don’t expect every guy they sign to be an all pro… However …this will be a disappointment if he is the only WR signed in Free Agency … Edited March 13 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 My buddy back in the UK who’s been a lifelong Falcon fan says not to expect anything but a role player on ST with the off-chance of sporadic success on offense if he’s doing the things Gabe did. Regular run of the mill depth guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: You are CLEARLY saying he's not talented enough to play on a team that's supposed to be a contender. Were the 2017 Super Bowl Champions Philadelphia Eagles good enough to be a contender that year? I'm trying not to be insulting, but you're making it hard. Saying that the player isn't talented enough to play for a team that's supposed to be a contender IS NOT the same thing as saying that a team CANNOT be a contender if he's on the roster. It's about expectations. This is real basic sentence structure and logic dude. Nothing even to do with football at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just a procession of low end special team/2nd stringers that can be shoehorned under the cap. Wake me up for the draft. By the way, other than DQ those resignings were nothing to celebrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Hoping that Shorter or Shavers beat him out for this role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, BBFL said: My buddy back in the UK who’s been a lifelong Falcon fan says not to expect anything but a role player on ST with the off-chance of sporadic success on offense if he’s doing the things Gabe did. Regular run of the mill depth guy. Basically a JAG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Silly one to be upset about. You need to bring a lot of guys to camp. If he’s wr2 it’s a wreck but as wr5 he’d be a nice piece. You have to wait and see the context 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 59 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: This play encapsulates what a knucklehead he is. Notice he gets open, gets the ball, then slides down without being touched. He’s a weird guy on and off the field. Has some Robert Royal to his game - he’ll get wide open then let the ball bounce off his his facemask 20 yards into the air. This guy is a true clown show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Sounds like a losing philosophy to me. That's what this and the Morrow signing is. I'm only quoting what Sal said on the radio yesterday Edited March 13 by Jrb1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khlax3 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I do think we are more likely to carry 6 WR this year compared to t he past few years or only carrying 5. With matakevich and Neal gone if the WR 5 and 6 can contribute on offense and special teams k think they will go that direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 He's going to be drinking a LOT of peanut M&M water this year. 2 hours ago, Tommy said: This guy is a weirdo. He doesn't like people that use utensils to eat. https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2023/7/29/23812255/falcons-mack-hollins-eat-hands-soft-atlanta-falcons I hope he can block and be a WR5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Never seen him play but I really dont like his name so I'm grading this a firm D- 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 For all you fantasy managers out there pick this guy up in the draft I'm telling you he is going to be a monster for Buffalo! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 He's a veteran depth signing to play special teams and compete with Shorter at the bottom of the WR rotation. Some of you act like this is the first time you've watched a Bills' offseason. Beane signs these types of guys every year in order to give himself options heading into the draft and to act as a backstop if the draft goes against them. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Waiting for an “ I’m a UNC fan so I know all about him” reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I don't expect he will light the league on fire but this will be the first competent offense Hollins has been a part of since his time with Carr in Oakland. Good size and speed which is something we have sorely been lacking. There are a lot of nice catches in traffic and contested catches in his highlight reel. He has an opportunity to carve out a role in Buffalo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm trying not to be insulting, but you're making it hard. Saying that the player isn't talented enough to play for a team that's supposed to be a contender IS NOT the same thing as saying that a team CANNOT be a contender if he's on the roster. It's about expectations. This is real basic sentence structure and logic dude. Nothing even to do with football at this point. With your ability to comprehend, there is nothing you can say that would be insulting. I'm not making this hard at all, your logic is jaw droppingly bad where I'm not even sure if you're serious. If you say a player isn't talented enough to play for a contending team then they would have never played for a contending team. But he has and has a ring so you're statement of not being good enough to play for a contending team is false. You're moving goal posts to not be wrong but you are statement is clearly wrong. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, BeastMaster said: He's not slow. Maybe watch some of his games if you don't know. The rest of your post is triggered person gibberish, so I won't waste time trying to point out how ridiculous you come across. Yeah I watched some vids of him. In the 18! Catches that were on it I think he had a total of 6 rac yards. we’ll see, waste of a roster spot imo. Just like Sherfield and Harty before him. But people loved those moves too and they did absolutely nothing. I was right then and time will tell with this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: In all seriousness, what is your problem with this signing? He's been a career STer, he's put up some numbers when he got the chance. New Jake Kumerow or Trent Sherfield candidate. Sounds like he's got a bit of a screw loose, which is right on point for a guy who might play gunner. That's my problem right there. Both those guys were NOT good, and both saw time in the WR 3 role. It's not great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Yeah I watched some vids of him. In the 18! Catches that were on it I think he had a total of 6 rac yards. we’ll see, waste of a roster spot imo. Just like Sherfield and Harty before him. But people loved those moves too and they did absolutely nothing. I was right then and time will tell with this one. yea, but let’s be real - WR4 and WR5 aren’t guys you expect to do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, mrags said: Yeah I watched some vids of him. In the 18! Catches that were on it I think he had a total of 6 rac yards. we’ll see, waste of a roster spot imo. Just like Sherfield and Harty before him. But people loved those moves too and they did absolutely nothing. I was right then and time will tell with this one. $1.5m don’t buy you much …which is what Sherfield got and this guy will get paid.. Harty got overpaid ..should have been $2.5m as was also the returner … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just now, NoSaint said: yea, but let’s be real - WR4 and WR5 aren’t guys you expect to do much. In that case why bother paying a guy a penny more than you need to. Back to my argument that you should’ve the 1-2m from each of these vets your signing and pick some FA rookies off the street and pay them half as much. All while saving a million here and a million there. So then, maybe, if a decent vet is there that might actually make a difference, you can sign him to 6-8m. I’d rather have 5 scrubs at rookie minimum and 1 vet that’s decent on a prove it deal than 6 scrub vets that won’t make a difference. That’s just me I guess. Just now, Aussie Joe said: $1.5m don’t buy you much …which is what Sherfield got and this guy will get paid.. Harty got overpaid ..should have been $2.5m as was also the returner … Yes. But if you add up Harty and Sherfield money, and maybe the money of 1-2 other guys just like it, you could have had DHop instead of 2 WRs that did absolutely nothing all year. Not to mention guys like Neal, Matakevich, Etc that were terrible on STs anyway so who cares. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, mrags said: In that case why bother paying a guy a penny more than you need to. Back to my argument that you should’ve the 1-2m from each of these vets your signing and pick some FA rookies off the street and pay them half as much. All while saving a million here and a million there. So then, maybe, if a decent vet is there that might actually make a difference, you can sign him to 6-8m. I’d rather have 5 scrubs at rookie minimum and 1 vet that’s decent on a prove it deal than 6 scrub vets that won’t make a difference. That’s just me I guess. The difference here being that he is a proven special teamer, which this team values (arguably overvalues). I get what you're saying though and I do think that's a valid argument to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: That's my problem right there. Both those guys were NOT good, and both saw time in the WR 3 role. It's not great. I do not think that is your biggest problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: This is an upgrade to Sherfield This is like saying "Chick-fil-A is an upgrade to McDonald's".... While it may be true, maybe we'd rather not scarf down ***** fast food of any brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Reminds me of Kumerow. Tall, strong, and should play ST. Fairly reliable hands, Not a lot of separation, or YAC, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: I do not think that is your biggest problem. what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 $3 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just now, damj said: $3 million? "UP TO" you forgot that part 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I’d rather have the 4th/5th round comp picks than the scrubs we’re signing. At this rate just sign a bunch of UDFA and let them play for 800K per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 21 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Waiting for an “ I’m a UNC fan so I know all about him” reply Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Sure we will. I mean, per our scouting this year, combine visits, senior bowl viewing - its not hard to see a clear pattern that they are taking a long hard look at the WRs in this class. Couple that with the clear reports that Beane wanted Addison last year And that they didnt invest big money into Davis to be their long term 2 And that they have even said adding WR talent in the room and getting younger is a must...... I mean, be pessimistic all you want. But all signs point in the other direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 He sounds like a role player type. I think fans need to remember that Beane's philosophy is to fill all the holes on the team in free agency so he can focus on drafting BPA. He knows though that with the lack of room under the cap, he's not going to be able to draft the star power that the team needs at WR. I don't think signing Hollins lessens the possibility that the Bills draft a WR early at all. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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