4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, CNYfan said: How much "cap" on this? Those 11 draft picks will have a chance to make the roster. Almost like there was a plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Is anyone else getting a little dizzy??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: Feels like we have a lot of holes between WR, Center, DB's. Real holes. X WR C FS SS NT, 3rd DT Edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Bills fans today.. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evansfan322 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I don’t like taking McGovern away from his guard position. I thought Connor had a big influence on Dion playing much better 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Surprised in light of the Bates trade. O-Line had been playing well--- now two big holes. Have some in-house guys, but seems like a step back on a unit that had looked good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: They said another reporter with a blue check reported it They don’t know. But it’s very possible. It makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wow! This is a shocking development! Definitely did not have Connor McGovern moving to Center and David Edwards being re-signed and replacing him at Guard. But here we are! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, par73 said: Surprised in light of the Bates trade. O-Line had been playing well--- now two big holes. Have some in-house guys, but seems like a step back on a unit that had looked good. I'm bummed that we couldn't keep the line together, since it's the best we've had yet. But if McGovern can be effective at center, we should be solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Bills fans today.. Everything that has happened has been discussed. Nothing shocking yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I don't understand why people are upset. Sure. I liked him. He was great when healthy but, this guy may be one concussion away from calling it a career. That, paired with the cap savings, this is not a surprise at all and makes a lot of sense 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Wow! This is a shocking development! Definitely did not have Connor McGovern moving to Center and David Edwards being re-signed and replacing him at Guard. But here we are! Although I brought this option up we could still see Morse return on a lower contract or someone else to player Center before the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Everything that has happened has been discussed. Nothing shocking yet. I'm in favor of all of these moves so far (Morse I can go either way on) but I didn't expect all of this tbh. Sentimental feelings aside, I'm pleasantly surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 11 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: this is concerning to me. Everybody evaluates differently but Dallas repeatedly tried to make McGovern a more versatile player by giving him reps and time at center in the spring and camp. They concluded he can not play center. I feel like they just weakened the strength of the team. Soft rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I don't understand why people are upset. Sure. I liked him. He was great when healthy but, this guy may be one concussion away from calling it a career. That, paired with the cap savings, this is not a surprise at all and makes a lot of sense He was definitely a player that was a likely release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I’m totally good with this move—have always been worried about his concussion history and we needed to get younger and cheaper imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Holy **** Wow...just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 13 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Holy $***! Did not expect this. Beane is not being sentimental or emotional, but cold and calculating. If we want to win this attitude is required. I'm not necessarily agreeing with this specific move (and not arguing against it either) but the approach in general Well said. And wow at this release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Damn. Im surprised. Why is Beane messing around with the O-Line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I think this McGovern to center thing is the exact type of thing you’d want out there if you’re the Bills and targeting a center in the draft. 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Morse is a good dude and decent player. Just overrated in his abilities as he got pushed around a bit. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, major said: Soft rebuild sure also just normal team building. The league and the cap leave little room for old and declining players who make considerable amounts of money. I imagine the front office had this mapped out as they gave out the contracts with a few scenarios being different. Releasing/trading Diggs, dawkins, milano etc....would seem like a time to say rebuild. Most of these players sans the two starting safeties can be replaced on some level via the draft or mid level free agency after the draft. A lot of leadership and intelligence has left the locker room along with their cap numbers however and its nearly impossible to know how or when you can replace those qualities in players. Von Miller needs to be dealt with imo, there is no point in his being on the roster except for the cap ramifications. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: I'm in favor of all of these moves so far (Morse I can go either way on) but I didn't expect all of this tbh. Sentimental feelings aside, I'm pleasantly surprised. Brace yourself for Tre White soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I like the move, but trading bates for a vending machine sandwich seems like a bad move with this on the horizon. Would've made more sense to have a guy that can play every spot on the oline and compete for starting G in my opinion. Opens yet another OL hole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Damn. Im surprised. Why is Beane messing around with the O-Line? Cap reset. It has to be done to move forward in 2025 and beyond. 2024 won’t be a Super Bowl team but fixing the cap now increases the chances the teams from 2025 onward can actually compete for a championship. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wow, didn't expect this after the Bates trade. I had expected it before the Bates trade just because his contract was one of the most obvious to cut. This is supposed to be a great draft for OL too, not sure what the C depth looks like, haven't had time to dive too much into it as I have spent what little I have had on the WR's. So wonder if they are going to look at drafting a C as well somewhere in this draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 RIP 2019--2023 run. It's been more fun than the 1989-1993 run. Better team? No. But more fun. And Allen is still 3 years younger than when Kelly got to his first SB. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: sure also just normal team building. The league and the cap leave little room for old and declining players who make considerable amounts of money. I imagine the front office had this mapped out as they gave out the contracts with a few scenarios being different. Releasing/trading Diggs, dawkins, milano etc....would seem like a time to say rebuild. Most of these players sans the two starting safeties can be replaced on some level via the draft or mid level free agency after the draft. A lot of leadership and intelligence has left the locker room along with their cap numbers however and its nearly impossible to know how or when you can replace those qualities in players. Von Miller needs to be dealt with imo, there is no point in his being on the roster except for the cap ramifications. Miller will have a post June 1st cut designation. I dot see it until after the draft though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Although I brought this option up we could still see Morse return on a lower contract or someone else to player Center before the season starts. I'd doubt it. The moves have included announcing McGovern is the new Center and Edwards was re-signed to start at Guard. I don't see Morse coming back to be a depth piece after being replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I’m a bit shocked at this one. I thought releasing Bates meant Morse was a lock. I am no guru if feels like Bates to center and keeping McGovern at guard may have been the better option over signing Edward’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) Gonna miss Mitch....always gave the impression of a good dude. Wonder how josh feels about this one. Edited March 6 by Lagoon Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Blank Stare said: I think this McGovern to center thing is the exact type of thing you’d want out there if you’re the Bills and targeting a center in the draft. Also people shouldn't sleep on Alec Anderson there, wouldn't be the most surprising if him or a rookie battle it out for the spot and McGovern continues to cement the LG spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Big Blitz said: RIP 2019--2023 run. It's been more fun than the 1989-1993 run. Better team? No. But more fun. And Allen is still 3 years younger than when Kelly got to his first SB. Yep. Tread water in 2024, fix the cap and get back on with the business of trying to win championships in 2025 onward. This is all necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 18 minutes ago, Beast said: Not a fan of this. We will be taking a clear step back next season. It HAS to happen. I really hope they eat the ***** sandwich that is the Von Miller Albatross Contract (tm), too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 THIS I did not see coming. Process guy and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Thought that cutting Morse was on the cards since the start of the offseason … Then changed by mind yesterday when they traded Bates … Beane always surprises… I need to take a look in more detail at the top C draft prospects … think a Day 2 pick could be in play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 So McGovern played an entire season at C in college correct? But none since then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: We just,possibly, blew up the best part of the team. We finally had the OL set Makes me think they might like someone they saw last week at the combine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Billznut said: Yep. Tread water in 2024, fix the cap and get back on with the business of trying to win championships in 2025 onward. This is all necessary. IMO if they succeed in rebuilding the defensive line they are still as much of a threat to win a championship in 24 as in any other time. I don't think anything that has happened has changed that especially since they may make some mid level signings after the draft that turn out to be better than imagined like Floyd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: It HAS to happen. I really hope they eat the ***** sandwich that is the Von Miller Albatross Contract (tm), too. I’d like that as well but it won’t happen because it will create too much dead cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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