balln Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 We need to have options at WR Diggs wr 1 - 11 targets . 4 rec for 24 yards. Gabe wr 2 - 2 targets. 0 for 0 that. Issss. Shocking to me 2 2 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I’m just gunna enjoy winning a tight game like that for once … at least for 24 hours … Yeah .. there are problems … but they are still alive another couple of weeks … 14 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Diggs is arguably not a #1 the last half of the season. His brother can tweet about it. Not making even somewhat contested catches. Not able to beat teams #1. He needs to get his head out of his a$$. @HappyDays called it out a few weeks ago and it was more of the same today. When you minus him out as a true #1 we clearly have some serious issues at WR. Lets draft a defensive end. 3 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 You could look at it one of two ways - they won without Diggs or Davis being involved, OR, they barely won because Diggs and Davis were hardly involved 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I would love to see the kind of contact they let go in this game. You can’t play tight man coverage for the entire game and only get 1 illegal contact penalty. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Diggs hasn't been good in 7 weeks now. Davis has never been a #2 and is going the exact wrong direction. At this point I think Diggs is more of a number 2 and the Bills desperately need an alpha at wideout 1. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tindale Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 That was playoff football. Just survive and win ugly. Next game up, put this one on the shelf 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Diggs is arguably not a #1 the last half of the season. His brother can tweet about it. Not making even somewhat contested catches. Not able to beat teams #1. He needs to get his head out of his a$$. @HappyDays called it out a few weeks ago and it was more of the same today. When you minus him out as a true #1 we clearly have some serious issues at WR. Lets draft a defensive end. to be 100% fair I thought Sneed played lights out against him. It's not an excuse for Stefon today but I consider it a reason to at least give some credit to KC. Im sure he is happy with the win but NOT his performance in it. Edited December 11, 2023 by muppy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Since Joe Brady is OC, the offense looks great, is creative... and the WRs are not involved much. This game both teams did it. So I wouldn't worry. It's the first time Diggs seemed mentally out though. The other games he was all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Josh not seeing gabe wide open is concerning. Him and Gabe don't seem to be on the same page anymore. Gabe looked pissed. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m just gunna enjoy winning a tight game like that for once … at least for 24 hours … Yeah .. there are problems … but they are still alive another couple of weeks … I think they are playing better though- much fewer penalties today, only one TO, ST did better and Josh is playing smarter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Is this an Andy Isabella thread? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I didn’t want this to turn into a shootout and it didn’t Every game is a new game. I’m gonna enjoy this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Jerome007 said: Since Joe Brady is OC, the offense looks great, is creative... and the WRs are not involved much. This game both teams did it. So I wouldn't worry. It's the first time Diggs seemed mentally out though. The other games he was all in. Neither Mahomes nor Josh had enough time unpressured to reach deeper recievers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, jethro_tull said: I think they are playing better though- much fewer penalties today, only one TO, ST did better and Josh is playing smarter The D played better …no argument there … Cook played great ..particular in the first half … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, jethro_tull said: Neither Mahomes nor Josh had enough time unpressured to reach deeper recievers. Josh had time in the 1st half. None after. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) Chiefs have a solid defense and they are one of the best at making adjustments at half. Bills are very flawed but there aren't too many really good teams this year. Probably 49ers, Ravens, and Dallas. Bills are part of that bunch of 10 teams that can go either way as far as putting it together or flaming completely out. My only major complaint was not running the ball up 14-0 and just about to enter Chiefs terrority. There was about 4 minutes to half and tiring out the Chiefs defense with running plays and getting up 17 or 21-0 would have changed the directory of the whole game. Poor play call by Brady and bad decision by Allen to throw to Sherfield (he sucks). That was a 10-14 point swing. Other than that...good game for Bills to work with for next week. Edited December 11, 2023 by Wizard 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Davis has played like garage. No surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, balln said: We need to have options at WR Diggs wr 1 - 11 targets . 4 rec for 24 yards. Gabe wr 2 - 2 targets. 0 for 0 that. Issss. Shocking to me KC was playing AFC Championship Game defense again meaning they held and illegal contacted Bills WR's all game and got no calls against them for it. Allen was under duress far too often the 2nd half of the game even with 3 man pressures at times, which meant nobody was open downfield with 8 in coverage Davis was WIDE open for a TD late in the game on the drive they kicked the winning FG but again, Allen was under duress and didn't see him, instead throwing high to Kincaid along the sideline incomplete. Easily could have been a wide open TD. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Diggs had a couple of drops on quick swing passes that were uncharacteristic. Concerning for sure however they still grinded out the win. Hopefully showing they can win other ways will open diggs up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 We do need better receiving options. We have approximately no-one who can get separation right now. Whenever the broadcast showed the whole field, the receivers were covered. There was the one blown coverage where Gabe got wide open and Allen didn’t see him, but those things happen and are few and far between. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I thought by title it was a guess the fill in blank for OC. Win was great BUT… My answer to guess what OP was think is "I bet against Bills winning any more games this year and I lost money already." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Diggs is arguably not a #1 the last half of the season. His brother can tweet about it. Not making even somewhat contested catches. Not able to beat teams #1. He needs to get his head out of his a$$. @HappyDays called it out a few weeks ago and it was more of the same today. When you minus him out as a true #1 we clearly have some serious issues at WR. Lets draft a defensive end. The moral of the story is Beane has to draft at least 2 wrs in April. Gabe's gone anyway. We need to prepare 2 young wrs to replace Diggs eventually. And hope Shakir/ Kincaid keep developing? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 "Ooh great win, now how can I try and kick everyone in the nuts and ruin a nice time?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 min. One word... Run! So dumb. Glad they won, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 The Chiefs secondary is for real. I have to say I was surprised Allen could not burn them with the blitzing. They took the quick stuff away and even when Josh bought time, nothing materialized down the field. Something had to be there....will be curious to see the all22 reviews this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Josh had time in the 1st half. None after. they were running in the first half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, balln said: We need to have options at WR Diggs wr 1 - 11 targets . 4 rec for 24 yards. Gabe wr 2 - 2 targets. 0 for 0 that. Issss. Shocking to me Honestly, I could care less about what these guys target shares are. Cook should have gotten more touches running and receiving because he was tearing them up. if we can win and run an offense that can win in a variety of ways I am way more happy than force feeding Diggs like we did today. When we force feed him, like today and the broncos game, we miss other opportunities on the field. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Wizard said: Chiefs have a solid defense and they are one of the best at making adjustments at half. Bills are very flawed but there aren't too many really good teams this year. Probably 49ers, Ravens, and maybe Philly. Bills are part of that bunch of 10 teams that can go either way as far as putting it together or flaming completely out. My only major complaint was not running the ball up 14-0 and just about to enter Chiefs terrorist. There was about 4 minutes to half and tiring out the Chiefs defense with running plays and getting up 17 or 21-0 would have changed the directory of the whole game. Poir play call by Brady and by Allen to throw to Sherfield (he sucks). That was a 10-14 point swing. Other than that...good game for Bill's to work with for next week. "Very flawed"? Cmon man...the Panthers are "very flawed", the Steelers even are "very flawed". The Bills have some flaws but they also still are near the top of the NFL in many categories..."very flawed" teams aren't in that conversation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BufBills83 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Did everyone forget the blatant PI call on Diggs at the end? I didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Diggs is too good not to play better going forward. Sneed always plays him tough and the refs were letting them play. There were PIs on a few of his targets. The good news is that the 12 personnel formations are working. With Knox and Kincaid involved in the passing game and Cook being a coverage nightmare, our offense will be fine. Shakir should get Davis’s targets and Davis has been an effective blocker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Since Joe Brady is OC, the offense looks great, is creative... and the WRs are not involved much. This game both teams did it. So I wouldn't worry. It's the first time Diggs seemed mentally out though. The other games he was all in. I thought Brady struggled today outside of the 1st quarter. Seemed like Spags was in his head a bit and he kept guessing blitz which resulted in a lot of WR screens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Brady is not the answer. It’s not a lot different than Dorsey. He may be hurting us let but we need a real oc. Brady can stay as qb coach. 9 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I thought Brady struggled today outside of the 1st quarter. Seemed like Spags was in his head a bit and he kept guessing blitz which resulted in a lot of WR screens Yeah some of the stretches were the worst our o has looked in a few years. Completely lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 The real problem today was Brady's refusal to use Cook and refusal to run the ball in the second half. Stef being a non-factor is not a problem if we use our best weapon, which right now, at this point of the season, is Cook. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Already bashing Brady I see. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Cough their defense is like what? Top 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 sometimes the win is the only thing that matters...this is one of those times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Everyone has a big but. Let's talk about your big but. Disclaimer: the statement above is a movie quote and should not be construed as a negative statement about the intent of this thread or OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Trade Diggs to Dallas for Lamb. Diggs brothers are happy and we get a receiver who hasn't mentally checked out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Already bashing Brady I see. He deserved it today. Abandoning Cook and the run in the 2nd half was non-sensical and damn near cost us the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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