Charles Romes Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Interesting how they were let go hours after not dealing adams or Crosby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I thought the Raiders were broke and could not afford to fire him. They were broke in Oakland. They’re getting crazy rich in Vegas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: They were broke in Oakland. They’re getting crazy rich in Vegas. I am sure you are right but this was a thing a year ago. https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/report-raiders-dont-have-the-money-to-fire-mcdaniels/273757/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) After what he did to Indy, karma strikes. Edited November 1, 2023 by Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 After how he stiffed the colts its absurd he even was considered for another spot. I imagine this wont be the end either. Down the road a few years from now some owner and gm will begin selling him on Tom Brady's accomplishments and give him another shot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Another poor millionaire out of work Time to sell off the third vacation home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I want to watch a talk show or a reality show with him and Adam Gase on how they duped NFL owners to hire them....telling stories and anecdotes about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I am sure you are right but this was a thing a year ago. https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/report-raiders-dont-have-the-money-to-fire-mcdaniels/273757/ Looks like they hadn’t (and probably still haven’t) built up a lot of cash yet Cash on hand by NFL standards that it. Free agent and coaching hires must have depleted what they had. There are still escrow requirements for guaranteed money in player contracts. Also teams often use a lack of cash on hand as a bargaining excuse. Like the LV Raiders couldn’t borrow $40M if they needed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Derek Carr is absolutely terrible. That is not the issue in LV. The coach was one of the biggest issues, that’s over now. I’m not saying the guy they replaced McDaniels with is any good, how can I know but McDaniels is clueless. The Raiders have some players and they wasted way too many years with Carr there. Jimmy G isn’t spectacular but he’s very solid. Let a coach that understands NFL protection and scheme get a hold of that team and they can be pretty good. They got a lot better today big picture wise. Carr is definitely not “absolutely terrible.” He’s very slightly above league average who can get a team to the playoffs if the stars align. He’s done it twice and will probably do it again this year because NO is the best team in a bad NFC south. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Bring back Chuckie! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Can't wait for this snake to slither back to the Cheater pit - another Bellicheat tree fail w/o the system of cheating in place (not that he didn't try to recreate it in Den) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: Devante Adams: You couldn't have done this like a day or two ago and let someone else make the GM decisions? If I were Adams, I would demand they make me a Free Agent today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Just another “offensive genius” who’s career was made off of Tom Brady’s back. I don’t know how anyone looked at his time in Denver where he replaced Jay Cutler with Tim Tebow, dismantled a good team and said yeah I want to try that guy again. His first order of business was doing the exact same thing in Las Vegas replacing Carr with Jimmy. The 2nd that happened I would have said this guy learned nothing from his first stint. Plus a lot of players think he’s an ass too probably doesn’t help Umm Carr stinks, and Jimmy G. Was a winner his entire career till Vegas. His issue is he is made of glass. So it isn’t the same thing at all. Players in Ne Loved playing for him, I think the “ass” thing is a fan perspective especially in Indy where he said yes then jilted them at the last minute. I don’t understand firing the GM. The Raiders have some amazing talent on that team, IMO he did his job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, chongli said: Absolute madness. McDaniels hasn't earned anything past the standard boilerplate contract for new coaches (3-4 years). You would think Davis would learn after the Gruden debacle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said: Umm Carr stinks, and Jimmy G. Was a winner his entire career till Vegas. His issue is he is made of glass. So it isn’t the same thing at all. Players in Ne Loved playing for him, I think the “ass” thing is a fan perspective especially in Indy where he said yes then jilted them at the last minute. I don’t understand firing the GM. The Raiders have some amazing talent on that team, IMO he did his job. It’s not that Carr is a world beater but how bout team chemistry man. Adam’s came there to play with Carr, McDaniels knew that. Instead he gets rid of Carr, pissing Adam’s off for a guy who is a lateral move at best. Adams was getting the ball with Carr and now he is doing squat every week. Adam’s would have understood if it was a 1st or 2nd round pick. He kind of did that with Tebow replacing Cutler but everyone under the sun knew Tebow would struggle to throw the ball in the NFL. I have heard a couple players in interviews talk about how they can’t stand McDaniels. Wasn’t even thinking about the Indy thing until the other poster brought it up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 54 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I thought the Raiders were broke and could not afford to fire him. He is. That’s how bad it had gotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Looks like they hadn’t (and probably still haven’t) built up a lot of cash yet Cash on hand by NFL standards that it. Free agent and coaching hires must have depleted what they had. There are still escrow requirements for guaranteed money in player contracts. Also teams often use a lack of cash on hand as a bargaining excuse. Like the LV Raiders couldn’t borrow $40M if they needed to. Not saying that Davis has a ton of liquid cash on hand, but the Raiders' value has skyrocketed since moving to Vegas: "The valuation of the Raiders continues to rise in Las Vegas, with the Silver and Black now worth $6.2 billion, making them the sixth-most valuable team in the NFL. The team’s value increased 22 percent over last year, when they were ninth, jumping $1.1 billion since 2022, according to Forbes annual ranking of NFL team values. The Raiders have come a long way from 2015, when they were 31st in the 32-team NFL in these rankings." https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/raiders/raiders-make-huge-leap-in-franchise-valuation-rankings-2896820/#:~:text=The Raiders have come a,ranking of NFL team values.&text=The valuation of the Raiders,valuable team in the NFL. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Special K said: Vegas....the home of the Stanley Cup Champion Vegas Golden Knights, the WNBA Champion Las Vegas Aces, and a team that also “participates” in pro sports, the Las Vegas Raiders. And coming soon the Oakla... oops I mean Las Vegas A's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Umm Carr stinks, and Jimmy G. Was a winner his entire career till Vegas. His issue is he is made of glass. So it isn’t the same thing at all. Players in Ne Loved playing for him, I think the “ass” thing is a fan perspective especially in Indy where he said yes then jilted them at the last minute. I don’t understand firing the GM. The Raiders have some amazing talent on that team, IMO he did his job. In no world is Jimmy G. a better QB then Carr, who I don't think very highly of either. Carr suffered through some of the worst defenses in the NFL. Jimmy G. was propped up by surrounding talent, similar to Brock Purdy. Didn't he win the NFC Championship game throwing like 9 passes? Edited November 1, 2023 by 716 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 He must have completely lost the room. That’s the only explanation of why you make this move now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: Well deserved. McDaniels showed everyone who he was in Denver. Mark Davis should’ve believed him. I wonder who will hire him next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, peterpan said: I wonder who will hire him next? Easy answer Chargers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 The Raiders are the Raiders, I recommend Rex Ryan & his brother. I mean, why not? It's the Raiders 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, peterpan said: I wonder who will hire him next? New England as OC. Gotta see if they can get rookie-year Mac back before deciding on picking up the 5th year option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Special K said: Vegas....the home of the Stanley Cup Champion Vegas Golden Knights, the WNBA Champion Las Vegas Aces, and a team that also “participates” in pro sports, the Las Vegas Raiders. and sadly soon the new home of the Oakland A's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, 716 said: In no world is Jimmy G. a better QB then Carr, who I don't think very highly of either. Carr suffered through some of the worst defenses in the NFL. Jimmy G. was propped up by surrounding talent, similar to Brock Purdy. Didn't he win the NFC Championship game throwing like 9 passes? Jimmy G’s days as a starting QB in the NFL are over after this year. He’s been badly exposed and of course can’t stay healthy. I suspect he will hang on for a few more years as a backup because he seems to be a good guy and very popular in the locker room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Umm Carr stinks, and Jimmy G. Was a winner his entire career till Vegas. His issue is he is made of glass. So it isn’t the same thing at all. Players in Ne Loved playing for him, I think the “ass” thing is a fan perspective especially in Indy where he said yes then jilted them at the last minute. I don’t understand firing the GM. The Raiders have some amazing talent on that team, IMO he did his job. Jimmy G has made a career off of being the guy who was drafted to be the heir to Brady. He’s a fine game manager/ball distributor. He’s nothing more than that - he won because he’s been surrounded by two very good coaches up to this point. Players in NE loved McD because he wasn’t Belichick. Nobody in Denver liked him because he was a total ####### (articles everywhere) and it sounds like he wasn’t revered in LV. "After trading away the young nucleus of our offense including Jay Cutler, Josh said to the entire team 'Fellas don't worry about the QB situation, I can turn a HS QB into an All Pro,'" Polumbus wrote on Twitter. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 McDaniels has the feel of a future SEC coach I can see him doing a stint in college now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: McDaniels has the feel of a future SEC coach I can see him doing a stint in college now He does give off string Lane Kiffin vibes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I wish we could pin comments like this in signatures, so everyone could block you Let me guess, you think Jon Gruden was railroaded. Statistics pretty much prove that the NFL coaching ranks are a good ol' boy network, and since almost all of the good ol' boys are white, white good ol' boys get most of the opportunities, even those with mediocre resumes. The NFL itself has acknowledged this with their continuing attempts to see more African Americans hired as head coaches. At the time Brian Flores filed his lawsuit against the NFL and Broncos, Giants, and Texans in 2022, there was only 1 Black HC in the NFL. In 2023, there are 3 Black HCs in the NFL, the same number that were in the league when the NFL instituted the Rooney Rule twenty years ago. Those are pretty skewed stats given that 70% of NFL players are black. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I don’t get why they didn’t trade Adam’s and even jacobs if they were firing their coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Not to mention what he did to the Colts. When people show who they are, believe them I get not keeping the interim coach, you want a clean slate. But McDaniels was a horrible hire and they gave him a 6 year deal??? Why? Mark 'What, Me Worry?' Davis. After Chuckie, he won't get fooled again. 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Nobody can understand why even unproven coaches have long term deals, but hey, it's owners' money, and it doesn't impact the salary cap, so who cares. One of the reasons might be that the players have to know the coaches have some leverage. Many players are paid more than coaches, and there are 53 players, one HC, so we all know what is easier to change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Davis loves paying out big contracts to coaches who no longer coach the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 There was a point in time last year when I thought the Raiders were the best 1-4 team the league has ever had. I guess that is the best I can say about the McDaniels tenure in Vegas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Bill Barnwell just wrote a long and very good article on espn.com about the McDaniel/Ziegler regime. Summary: If it weren’t for their bad decisions, they wouldn’t have made any at all…the team is in deep trouble and it will take years to dig out. May be forced to trade Maxx Crosby this offseason just to add draft capital in order to rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 The NFL has always been a league of bonehead owners hiring bonehead retread coaches. Rich Kotite from the early 90s is a great example of the "why would you give that guy a 2nd chance" phenomena and there have been several others. Josh Mcdaniels is a coordinator at best. Davis seems to be as incompetent and nasty as his father was (except of course without any SBs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 meanwhile... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Bangarang said: Well deserved. McDaniels showed everyone who he was in Denver. Mark Davis should’ve believed him. It's crazy how guys like him get second chances so easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 The Raiders had a banner hanging in the outside of theOakland stadium for years saying "Commitment to Excellence" I always said "Commitment to Excrement" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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