BuffaloBillyG Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’ll trust the fans that have no idea who he is saying he can’t cover anyone over this 😂. Douglas is probably better than white straight up post white’s acl injury I like PFF as a tool to see if the the grades match the eye test. Not normally as a stand alone measurements. That said...he already knows to look for the ball when playing Tua. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Grossi doesn't like the compensation for the trade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: Puts Dane Jackson back on the bench where he belongs All indications are that Douglas was a leader in the locker room also Sounds like a good fit all around He also means the Bills can be patient with Tre White. if that's the route they choose Edited October 31, 2023 by appoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I dig the compensation. Especially since we had an extra 3rd in compensation for Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: How can anyone that watches football not heard of this guy? The name alone was stuck in my head the 1st time I heard it. Good trade! I think Liam Neeson played him in a Batman movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: He’s not Patrick Surtain who some thought was so easy to get. But it’s a solid move and not a half year rental. They could certainly do worse. Welcome to Buffalo Rasul Whoever thought Surtain was gonna be easy to get is utterly clueless about what it costs to acquire a 1st team All Pro CB on his rookie deal. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, gonzo1105 said: He was a journeyman for quite a while but he seems to have found out how to play once he got to Green Bay. He unlocked or figured out something. Lets hope that continues in Buffalo. For the most part I trust McD's DB evaluation skills. I question a lot of roster moves, but I think I will sit tight and see how this one plays out. I have a feeling he will be a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Packers is just a few letters off from Panthers… 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Not too thrilled about giving up a 3rd for a 29 yr old corner next year, but he is a solid get for us Edited October 31, 2023 by BillsSbSoon 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think he is an upgrade on our starters. Admittedly haven't seen a lot of Green Bay this season, but have seen a lot of Douglas since he came out of that good 2017 draft class. The Eagles ended up cutting him, 3 years after spending a 3rd on him because teams CONSTANTLY targeted him then he bounced around practice squads before sticking in Green Bay. No team in the NFL has misevaluated DBs as consistently as Green Bay in the past decade. For a 3rd with a 5th coming back I really do not like this. I think he is a better fit in our scheme than Elam but he is a lateral move from Jackson and Benford for me. Maybe he has suddenly improved a ton and will prove me wrong but man I hate this deal. He has improved vastly from when he was in Philly It was like a light went on for him when he went to GB You are judging him based off the old information you had from what you saw when he was with the Eagles. He's not the same player, and we usually get the best from corners when they get integrated into this scheme. He's an upgrade over Dane, and maybe even Benford 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, The Wiz said: Grossi doesn't like the compensation for the trade. There's a guy who knows the packers. Was looking to see if he had a video up yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Solid move, not a home run but a double. Still 15 minutes left maybe a DT or LB is in play Flip a 5th and grab Harrison from the Vikings?😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 You have to assume that Beane was working on Johnson all day, but had a backup plan in place for Douglas in case that didn't work out. Well played. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He may have. But GB are bad at evaluating DBs. I trust him starting there less than him starting in almost any other team. Packers fans are upset and PFF grades him very high. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over Edited October 31, 2023 by Niagara Dude 4 4 3 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, BillsSbSoon said: Not too thrilled about giving up a 3rd for a 29 yrs old corner next year, but he is a solid get for us ............................................................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: Grossi doesn't like the compensation for the trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I like PFF as a tool to see if the the grades match the eye test. Not normally as a stand alone measurements. That said...he already knows to look for the ball when playing Tua. Oh yea I don’t disagree haha I was being sarcastic. Pff is pretty good if you take it with a grain of salt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Big Turk said: 75.2 is a good grade...that's why it's in green. Only 90’s will do here .. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: He’s not Patrick Surtain who some thought was so easy to get. But it’s a solid move and not a half year rental. They could certainly do worse. Welcome to Buffalo Rasul Surtain would have cost multiple first rounders. He;s another tier better than Jalon Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: It amazes me that there so many dumb people showing themselves today, just in this thread. Keep em coming There are dumb people showing themselves every day here. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! ... wait, are you serious? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, LyndonvilleBill said: Flip a 5th and grab Harrison from the Vikings?😉 I wouldn’t hate Harry but Harry is more of a three tech, would prefer a true run stuffer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 When you give up a 3rd you need to be getting a difference maker, he is not him. Beane just keeps on screwing up 3 2 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Only 90’s will do here .. lol A 90 overall player for a 3rd round pick would be wild lol you can’t even trick madden into doing that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Not the least of which is Carolina in 2020! There is a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over 1) Surtain is not available. 2) I am not for giving up a first rounder this year. 3) Giving up an extra third rounder that we get from the Edmunds deal is not getting screwed. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I love Tom Grossi, which means his sadness is our gain in this case lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over Brilliant post We got an early fifth back Surtain would go for what Ramsey went for minimum. So TWO firsts and a fourth plus a contract that makes him the highest paid CB in the league. Good stuff on here as always. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over Well he didn't give up a 3rd for him, he gave a 3rd for him and a 5th, which makes it a 4th roughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Well it's something. Edited October 31, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: 1) Surtain is not available. 2) I am not for giving up a first rounder this year. 3) Giving up an extra third rounder that we get from the Edmunds deal is not getting screwed. The price wasn't a 1st. It's 2 1st's PLUS a stud player. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over The Broncos have traded nobody today. They are not selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytownblofan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Good on Beane for having multiple forks in the fire and being able to pivot when he realized Jaylon wasn't happening https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1719443222185799811?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said: 75.2 is a good grade...that's why it's in green. Yeah, it's a very good grade. Only players in the 80's are the elite (top 5 or top 10 players in that position in the league). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Well its a late 3rd (possibly our comp pick for edmunds - doesn't seem clear anywhere), for Douglas and a 5th (also not clear if this is their early 5th, or their comp pick in the 5th). Comp picks have not been awarded yet. You can't trade what doesn't exist, so unless they have acquired anything this is the Packers own. The 3rd for sure is the Bills own. We'd figure the Bills to end up 20-25 and Pack 5-10 in selection order so the delta will likely be ~50 draft slots, so that's the actual price paid for Ras'al Ghul. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: When you give up a 3rd you need to be getting a difference maker, he is not him. Beane just keeps on screwing up They’re getting an early 5th in return and getting a difference maker. Even if he’s just ‘pretty good’ gb kind of got fleeced value wise imo…looks like it was just a salary dump for them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: 3rd rounder way too much for this guy, you might as well just give up first and 3rd for Patrick Surtain. Beane got screwed over you have no idea who he is. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 For what it's worth, here's one of the top posts from a Packers forum: Quote I'm upset. One of the guys who actually gave a ***** about how we were playing. More importantly, as a team desperate for veteran leadership, we trade away one of our veteran leaders. What great thinking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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