Bills!Win! Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: He should be back to normal after the Bills cut him after the 2024 season, and he is looking for a new contract…or maybe he will be the Bills new GM by then. Is #40 taken on KC? Probably where he will end up because Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Overheard in the crowd last night.......... (Don't shoot the messenger) Edited October 28, 2023 by BADOLBILZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 He’s getting closer Had a hold of Mayfields leg 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 https://x.com/jimmyreu81/status/1718651613227676084?s=46&t=HVSgxokRv19AGZpTG-TmVQ hope to see more of this. It’s getting there I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I'm sorry fellow fans, he is slow and lost his #1 attribute, his incredible knee bend. I think the best bet is to use him on pure passing downs coming in behind Groot or some other DE. It is what it is, he is about 35 coming off his 2nd ACL. Father Time is undefeated folks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I'm sorry fellow fans, he is slow and lost his #1 attribute, his incredible knee bend. I think the best bet is to use him on pure passing downs coming in behind Groot or some other DE. It is what it is, he is about 35 coming off his 2nd ACL. Father Time is undefeated folks. He’s wearing a brace as part of the recovery/return. He’s not going to have elite bend in a bulky brace. He’s detailed this process. Next step is a smaller brace, then no brace. We’ll see if he becomes effective this year, but right now.. judging him in his first few games back wearing a brace is very premature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 What if we would take hall like everyone wanted instead of a guy who can't even get on the field? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: https://x.com/jimmyreu81/status/1718651613227676084?s=46&t=HVSgxokRv19AGZpTG-TmVQ hope to see more of this. It’s getting there I hope. I’m hoping to see more than an almost-sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m hoping to see more than an almost-sack. Like a flag when he's getting dragged down from the front? This happened on 2 other plays that weren't called. One of them would have been a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Like a flag when he's getting dragged down from the front? This happened on 2 other plays that weren't called. One of them would have been a safety. Sure. I’d rather not rely on the refs. I think he’s still weeks away from being back to his true form, whatever that might be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 It's been less than a year since he tore his ACL. It takes time to heal and get strength back. He was playing very straight-legged and upright. Hopefully he's at least 90% by January when he'll really be needed. But for now, he needs game time to help get all his functional abilities back. Not all strength is built in the gym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Von Miller needs to go back on IR until the playoffs if we make it. Otherwise he is useless out there, I’d rather have Kingley Jonathan out there at full speed and health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, wppete said: Von Miller needs to go back on IR until the playoffs if we make it. Otherwise he is useless out there, I’d rather have Kingley Jonathan out there at full speed and health. owner wants some ROI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Von Miller needs to go back on IR until the playoffs if we make it. Otherwise he is useless out there, I’d rather have Kingley Jonathan out there at full speed and health. If he goes on ir until playoffs he’ll be useless in the playoffs though…gotta get him some reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: owner wants some ROI I get it but he is hurting the team being out there hurt, slow and no threat at pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, SCBills said: He’s wearing a brace as part of the recovery/return. He’s not going to have elite bend in a bulky brace. He’s detailed this process. Next step is a smaller brace, then no brace. We’ll see if he becomes effective this year, but right now.. judging him in his first few games back wearing a brace is very premature. acl braces suck to wear just walking around. i stopped wearing mine skiing after 2 years. probably not a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, SCBills said: He’s wearing a brace as part of the recovery/return. He’s not going to have elite bend in a bulky brace. He’s detailed this process. Next step is a smaller brace, then no brace. We’ll see if he becomes effective this year, but right now.. judging him in his first few games back wearing a brace is very premature. I get it,but I just don't know about a 35 yo athlete on his 2nd ACL. And keep in mind, the original surgery was to re anchor the meniscus to the bone, let's not forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, BigBadBills said: What if we would take hall like everyone wanted instead of a guy who can't even get on the field? "everyone" lol. who are you, gary oldman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, SCBills said: He’s wearing a brace as part of the recovery/return. He’s not going to have elite bend in a bulky brace. He’s detailed this process. Next step is a smaller brace, then no brace. We’ll see if he becomes effective this year, but right now.. judging him in his first few games back wearing a brace is very premature. Von looked better against Tampa, far from the elite player he was of course but he had a few flashes where he looked closer to his old form. Given the nature of his injury I would say that if he can’t look significantly better by December then I would be massively concerned about him coming back to being a productive player this season. But it’s still October give it another months worth of games and a bye week before we have a clear picture of what’s going on with Von. I don’t think he has to be 100% back by December either he just has to look closer to what he was than what he currently is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: I get it but he is hurting the team being out there hurt, slow and no threat at pass rusher. owner don’t care. Tired of paying him for nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Just have to keep him iced as much as possible and hope he has one last run in the playoffs. But there were plenty of signs guy was on the downside of his career and he just had another big injury. completely understand why we signed him but it’s going to be a bad contract going forward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But there were plenty of signs guy was on the downside of his career and he just had another big injury. There really weren't any signs Von was about to fall off.......he was playing great prior to the injury. Not just the bulk sacks........he was on pace for 13-15 sacks..........but his overall play was no different than the late 2010's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, BigBadBills said: What if we would take hall like everyone wanted instead of a guy who can't even get on the field? Because you don't take a RB in the 1st rd!! Your best value is a CB who's relegated to the bench or inactive 😎 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: There really weren't any signs Von was about to fall off.......he was playing great prior to the injury. Not just the bulk sacks........he was on pace for 13-15 sacks..........but his overall play was no different than the late 2010's. I didn't remember him taking place off or disappearing when he was younger. Even when he's been in pre-injury, there were plays where he would just straight up disappear. Maybe I didn't watch enough of the plays really in his career but I never remember him dogging it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: I didn't remember him taking place off or disappearing when he was younger. Even when he's been in pre-injury, there were plays where he would just straight up disappear. Maybe I didn't watch enough of the plays really in his career but I never remember him dogging it I didn't see him dog it last season. We all saw Cody Ford have a decent game against him though so we know he wasn't always as good as he played last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 6 hours ago, SCBills said: He’s wearing a brace as part of the recovery/return. He’s not going to have elite bend in a bulky brace. He’s detailed this process. Next step is a smaller brace, then no brace. We’ll see if he becomes effective this year, but right now.. judging him in his first few games back wearing a brace is very premature. it takes over a year to fully recover from his injury. He’s not even 90% now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 hours ago, wppete said: Von Miller needs to go back on IR until the playoffs if we make it. Otherwise he is useless out there, I’d rather have Kingley Jonathan out there at full speed and health. He needs to play to get back in shape. Putting him on IR is just going to slow his progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, djp14150 said: it takes over a year to fully recover from his injury. He’s not even 90% now. Then why is he in the lineup? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Then why is he in the lineup? He’s at 75% and on a play count. Teams still have to account for him. Edited October 29, 2023 by djp14150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This guy needs to start being made inactive on game day. I’ve seen enough. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, RiotAct said: This guy needs to start being made inactive on game day. I’ve seen enough. It’s sad. He’s a shell of himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 He's washed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 He can’t be cut until after next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Just now, Turbo44 said: He can’t be cut until after next season. He takes up a ton of cap space. Beane took a risk and it didn't pan out the way he'd hoped. Edited November 6, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, RiotAct said: This guy needs to start being made inactive on game day. I’ve seen enough. I dont know if he needs to be inactive, but he SHOULDNT have been in the game on a running down with the game on the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 imagine if that money was spent on offense? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, billybob71 said: imagine if that money was spent on offense? Not allowed here with a defensive HC. Defense or former Panther. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, letsgoteam said: I dont know if he needs to be inactive, but he SHOULDNT have been in the game on a running down with the game on the line. He didn't even post an assisted tackle. Nothing. No stat line. Even Joseph and Douglas had a couple of tackles each. Edited November 6, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Miller is probably at 80%, at 34 it’s probably gonna be 2024 until he’s at 100%. Clearly not the reason we lost, but unable to make any game changing plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) On 10/29/2023 at 5:07 PM, BADOLBILZ said: There really weren't any signs Von was about to fall off.......he was playing great prior to the injury. Not just the bulk sacks........he was on pace for 13-15 sacks..........but his overall play was no different than the late 2010's. Yea the only sign was his birth certificate not on the field play Edited November 6, 2023 by NoSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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