Hebert19 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He looks sooooo slow out there. Penalty was a BS call but he has been rough to watch all season. A step slow a lot. I know there is a lot of love for the dude and it's deserved but he is NOT good right now. 3 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He looked a step slow last season. He looks 3 steps slow this season. One of my favorite Bills ever but his prime is behind him. Thank you for your service Po. 8 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He looks sooooo slow out there. Penalty was a BS call but he has been rough to watch all season. A step slow a lot. I know there is a lot of love for the dude and it's deserved but he is NOT good right now. The instincts are there, the speed and agility just isn't anymore. He was never a real fast guy to begin with, but he was fast enough. Now you see why there was no teams wanting to bite for his asking price in free agency. Edited October 8, 2023 by Billz4ever 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He looks sooooo slow out there. Penalty was a BS call but he has been rough to watch all season. A step slow a lot. I know there is a lot of love for the dude and it's deserved but he is NOT good right now. It's fair. He's been so good for so long for us that it feels almost dirty to say, but his time is up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I could see rap overtaking him 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He wasn't the problem today. Injuries to the defense & the offense not getting going & playing inconsistent are bigger issues. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I could see rap overtaking him Was Rapp even out there today. Never noticed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Poyer & Hyde need to make some plays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said: He wasn't the problem today. Injuries to the defense & the offense not getting going & playing inconsistent are bigger issues. This is right but both he and Hyde do look slow. 7 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Our coverage group missed Benford and White a lot today...and Milano 😢 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Einstein said: He looked a step slow last season. He looks 3 steps slow this season. One of my favorite Bills ever but his prime is behind him. Thank you for your service Po. He's clearly washed and definitely looks so slow. But with all these guys hurt we're stuck. 11 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Our coverage group missed Benford and White a lot today...and Milano 😢 Yeah, you can't absorb these 3 loses and expect to win. Dane played well but Elam is done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: He's clearly washed and definitely looks so slow. But with all these guys hurt we're stuck. Yeah, you can't absorb these 3 loses and expect to win. Dane played well but Elam is done. You can - if the offense played properly. Feels like Poyer's time may be up, sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Father Time catches us all, but he isn't THAT old! Hopefully he has some kind of nagging foot/calf issue that will go away soon. Who knows? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: He wasn't the problem today. Injuries to the defense & the offense not getting going & playing inconsistent are bigger issues. No, he was not the problem today. Poyer has gotten slower, and Safety will be a need this offseason. That roughing penalty was bogus. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He does seem past his prime, but to be fair, he just missed a game due to a knee injury and I am sure he wasn’t playing at 100% out there today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Yeah him and Hyde are probably both near the end unfortunately...sucks. It's humbling how quickly we went from a dominant secondary a couple years ago to now...still perdy good, but definitely not where we were... Edited October 8, 2023 by Fallser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 43 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I could see rap overtaking him And that’s another issue… Rapp is not good either 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I could see rap overtaking him From what I've heard from guys who actually watch film, Rapp has been worse. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The penalty was crap. Jagoff was trying to catch the ball, so you can't hit him? Come on, man. Po's knee could still be bothering him, so I'm not ready to throw dirt on his coffin just yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Move him to linebacker where he doesn't have to be as fast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Special K said: He does seem past his prime, but to be fair, he just missed a game due to a knee injury and I am sure he wasn’t playing at 100% out there today. He looked slow before the injury. I’m not holding my breath on him getting any faster. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Father Time hit him. Appreciate all he’s done as a bill but I felt (before all the defensive injuries) he was the weakest link on the defense. Extremely slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 He got his golden parachute from the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Hope he hasn’t spent next years money yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Poyer & Hyde need to make some plays. Hyde had 2 picks coming into today. He got beat on a deep ball today that he shouldn't have been covering Ridley on anyway 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said: Hyde had 2 picks coming into today. He got beat on a deep ball today that he shouldn't have been covering Ridley on anyway Hyde & Poyer need to continue making plays. Agreed with you that ideally a zero blitz shouldn’t result in Hyde defending a WR 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Hyde & Poyer need to continue making plays. Agreed with you that ideally a zero blitz shouldn’t result in Hyde defending a WR 1. Ok. Everyone needs to continue making plays lol. Not just them. Hyde has made plays is what I'm saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Ok. Everyone needs to continue making plays lol. Not just them. Hyde has made plays is what I'm saying Agreed. The defense has to continue making plays. Epenesa alone did that. We needed a play to made from our secondary today and we didn’t get it. The 11 on defense collectively need to make more plays. And the offense can’t slow start the game and expect the defense to keep them in the game. It has to be all 3 units making plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 hours ago, UKBillFan said: You can - if the offense played properly. Feels like Poyer's time may be up, sadly. The offense has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Jordan runs now with a piano on his back. And it's so incredibly obvious, even compared to his injury riddled 22 campaign. Micah has slowed some but not to the extent of Poyer. This will 100% be his last season as a Bill. The Offense lost us the game today, but there were several other defensive players I'd praise before 21. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Maybe he can move up to linebacker 10 hours ago, Warcodered said: Our coverage group missed Benford and White a lot today...and Milano 😢 losing Milano is huge, and wasnt even mentioned on notable injuries around the league, this team still doesn't get respect. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 17 hours ago, Warcodered said: Our coverage group missed Benford and White a lot today...and Milano 😢 Coming into today, Milano was 1st in coverage , passer rating allowed for LBs by like 25 points over the next guy. Benard was 4th or 5th. Pure dominance I'm confident in Benford and Dane, Elam killed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 17 hours ago, Hebert19 said: He looks sooooo slow out there. Penalty was a BS call but he has been rough to watch all season. A step slow a lot. I know there is a lot of love for the dude and it's deserved but he is NOT good right now. why would it not be ok to say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) I have watched Poyer and Hyde this season both be way too slow. They both cost us big plays and Hyde couldn't get the angle yesterday on Travis E. Which led to the final Jags TD. Both need to go, and both are a liability right now. They just aren't what they have been. I know I'm going tobcatch hell, but it's the truth. This org (esp McDermottand his need for twnured vets) , along with this fan base, hang on to beloved players too long, and it hurts us on the field. Bash away, but the truth is there on film these last 5 games Edited October 9, 2023 by SoonerBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 You are not wrong. He is definitely slow. So is Hyde but Hyde is a better/smarter player so the lack of speed in old age doesn’t get as effected. yeah, shouldn’t have paid these guys. We had an out the last 2 years with them and should have taken it to get younger. They didn’t. Now we’re starting to look silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 No matter how this season plays out I would guess Beane will go heavy on defense in the 2024 draft/FA. He has no choice. Many players on that side of the ball are over 30. Plus, the injuries. Tre coming back from a 2nd serious injury. Milano will be coming off a big injury. We still have trouble stopping the run. I don't want to call it a rebuild. But I would say some re-tooling or reshaping of the defense will take place. They definitely need to get younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I have watched Poyer and Hyde this season both be way too slow. They both cost us big plays and Hyde couldn't get the angle yesterday on Travis E. Which led to the final Jags TD. Both need to go, and both are a liability right now. They just aren't what they have been. I know I'm going tobcatch hell, but it's the truth. This org (esp McDermottand his need for twnured vets) , along with this fan base, hang on to beloved players too long, and it hurts us on the field. Bash away, but the truth is there on film these last 5 games It’s 100% the truth. Here’s the biggest punch in the dick tho. Look for more defensive picks in the first 3 rounds this years draft, to replace the aging and beat up bets that either wont be here or we need to find suitable backups for in case things don’t go well in recovery. Hyde Poyer White Milano Jones all need to be replaced or at least need to find suitable backups for at this point. You can probably throw in DE as well as Floyd is just on a one year deal. Lawson is the same. Epenesa is on the final year of his contract. Phillips and Jones will or should be gone. Milano may not ever fully recover from this being over 30. Same with Tre. look for McD to get his pick of the draft litter and go all out defense again. Maybe a mid to late round WR or RB to make us feel warm and fuzzy. 4 minutes ago, Gregg said: No matter how this season plays out I would guess Beane will go heavy on defense in the 2024 draft/FA. He has no choice. Many players on that side of the ball are over 30. Plus, the injuries. Tre coming back from a 2nd serious injury. Milano will be coming off a big injury. We still have trouble stopping the run. I don't want to call it a rebuild. But I would say some re-tooling or reshaping of the defense will take place. They definitely need to get younger. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I could see rap overtaking him I can’t. McD loves his vets and you hardly ever see them get sat despite poor play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 It’s NOT OK to say this! Turn in your fan card immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 hours ago, Hebert19 said: He looks sooooo slow out there. Penalty was a BS call but he has been rough to watch all season. A step slow a lot. I know there is a lot of love for the dude and it's deserved but he is NOT good right now. Should’ve never resigned him. Should have allocated those funds to Hopkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Poyer doesn’t look like the same player. He definitely looks like he has lost a step. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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