ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I know it all depends on the success of the season, but if Dorsey keeps putting up 30-40 points on a regular basis, continues to supplement Allen w/ a consistent & explosive run game, and gets Buffalo to a SB then he’s as good as gone next year. I feel like he completely outclassed McDaniels today and that’s a nice notch on his resume. He’s done what Daboll couldn’t do and that’s make Buffalo a multi-dimensional offense. 3 3 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 No 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I know it all depends on the success of the season, but if Dorsey keeps putting up 30-40 points on a regular basis, continues to supplement Allen w/ a consistent & explosive run game, and gets Buffalo to a SB then he’s as good as gone next year. I feel like he completely outclassed McDaniels today and that’s a nice notch on his resume. He’s done what Daboll couldn’t do and that’s make Buffalo a multi-dimensional offense. I don’t believe so but I’d imagine Joe Brady would take over the role if we do have to replace Dorsey 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I do not think Dorsey would leave yet but he may interview for experience. Taking a position with a bottom dweller is not always a good career move. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 No. Maybe....if we win a Super Bowl. I don't think his credentials are enough at this point. I mean, he got handed the keys to a Ferrari, which built by the previous guy. He just gets to drive it, do burn outs and troll lesser machines on the highway. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I know it all depends on the success of the season, but if Dorsey keeps putting up 30-40 points on a regular basis, continues to supplement Allen w/ a consistent & explosive run game, and gets Buffalo to a SB then he’s as good as gone next year. I feel like he completely outclassed McDaniels today and that’s a nice notch on his resume. He’s done what Daboll couldn’t do and that’s make Buffalo a multi-dimensional offense. Who cares if he outdid McDaniels? He's turned the Raiders into an even bigger joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I know it all depends on the success of the season, but if Dorsey keeps putting up 30-40 points on a regular basis, continues to supplement Allen w/ a consistent & explosive run game, and gets Buffalo to a SB then he’s as good as gone next year. I feel like he completely outclassed McDaniels today and that’s a nice notch on his resume. He’s done what Daboll couldn’t do and that’s make Buffalo a multi-dimensional offense. It’s amazing how much the board sways We go from wanting to fire him to wondering if we’re gonna be able to keep them 3 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Dorsey will get Head Coaching interviews this offseason. He has had three very nice weeks weeks 1,2 and 4. Bit of a clunker at Washington but still got the job done. In a league continuing to veer toward offense I expect he will get interviews. As to if he left... I think it was clear when Dabes left Dorsey was the next in line. In terms of Joe Brady, I am sure the Bills would consider him but I don't think it is a slam dunk. I know they came away from their interview with Tee Martin last time really impressed and if Ken Dorsey had followed Daboll to New York (and there was 24 hours where the Bills feared he was going to) then Martin would have got the job. He has since moved over from wide receivers to quarterbacks in Baltimore. I wouldn't be stunned if they looked at him again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I've said before that Allen will go through at least 4 different OCs in his career. It's the downside of having a defensive HC. Now if any of those OCs will amount to anything without Allen under center is the real question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 If we do we have an in house replacment with Joe Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: If we do we have an in house replacment with Joe Brady Or just bring Daboll back. He might be looking for a job after this season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 There’s a point to keeping your QB1 and W1 happy with familiar and competent HC/OC. a revolving door for Offense staff is a recipe for losing personnel. Funny how the Dorsey opinions changed. I seriously haven’t seen anything special, creative from him (aside from winning;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Mynamemike said: I don’t believe so but I’d imagine Joe Brady would take over the role if we do have to replace Dorsey yep, that's one reason he was brought in. rinse and repeat. he's done the job in the past 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Unlikely.Allen makes Dorsey good not the other way around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 It's plausible. Top offensive coordinators get interviews. I think those around the league would view him as a Top OC is we continue to have success. From there, anything can happen. It really only takes one team to take a shine to him and make an offer. There is a good chance there are going to be some desirable jobs open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Let’s worry about that after the Super Bowl mmmmmmmk? If he lasts through next year dabol may get fired by then and they can bring him back for entering to whip on him more. Funny how people forget that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Imagine him being hired by some 3-14 team to turn them around. Think of the epic sideline tantrums that could follow. He'd create a new standard for meme-worthy that would be practically Brady-esqe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Daboll is the cautionary tale--Unless another team has a Josh Allen on the roster, no one will seriously look at him after this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 If the offense continues at this pace, yes. He had feelers out on him last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Daboll is the cautionary tale--Unless another team has a Josh Allen on the roster, no one will seriously look at him after this season. I could see a team like the Chargers giving him an interview if Staley gets his walking papers. If they like what Allen/Bills Offense does they could want to mimic that for Herbert. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Dorsey will get Head Coaching interviews this offseason. He has had three very nice weeks weeks 1,2 and 4. Bit of a clunker at Washington but still got the job done. In a league continuing to veer toward offense I expect he will get interviews. As to if he left... I think it was clear when Dabes left Dorsey was the next in line. In terms of Joe Brady, I am sure the Bills would consider him but I don't think it is a slam dunk. I know they came away from their interview with Tee Martin last time really impressed and if Ken Dorsey had followed Daboll to New York (and there was 24 hours where the Bills feared he was going to) then Martin would have got the job. He has since moved over from wide receivers to quarterbacks in Baltimore. I wouldn't be stunned if they looked at him again. I’m sorry but even if you like his play calls week 1 you can’t argue he managed the human element properly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Weren’t we firing him a few weeks back?😉 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: I could see a team like the Chargers giving him an interview if Staley gets his walking papers. If they like what Allen/Bills Offense does they could want to mimic that for Herbert. Staley was a DC and Chargers just brought in Kellen Moore as OC. Not sure how Dorsey as HC would change much next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 7 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I know it all depends on the success of the season, but if Dorsey keeps putting up 30-40 points on a regular basis, continues to supplement Allen w/ a consistent & explosive run game, and gets Buffalo to a SB then he’s as good as gone next year. I feel like he completely outclassed McDaniels today and that’s a nice notch on his resume. He’s done what Daboll couldn’t do and that’s make Buffalo a multi-dimensional offense. No. I think he is 2-3 years out. His mannerisms will hurt him. Going into 2025 seasons at earliest. caveat is a SB win and he is gone after he will be put into the discussion as an too young target this offseason though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, QCity said: I've said before that Allen will go through at least 4 different OCs in his career. It's the downside of having a defensive HC. Now if any of those OCs will amount to anything without Allen under center is the real question. I'd say it's more the downside of being as talented as Allen is. He literally played Daboll into a head coaching gig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 58 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’m sorry but even if you like his play calls week 1 you can’t argue he managed the human element properly It's hard to do that from the box. I put that more on Joe Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 you answered your own question in the first sentence. Terrible timing for this topic imo. You could’ve just praised him in the other good Dorsey thread. He outclassed Fangio not McDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Lets hold off on any relocation or zillow checking the prices of his home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It's hard to do that from the box. I put that more on Joe Brady. The ultimate issue is the buck stops with him as head coach in these hypothetical next steps and if he can’t see the glaring problem with his offense in that game it would also be a strike against him as the leader of the unit. he is still the voice in Josh’s helmet and the guy managing Joe Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 8 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I know it all depends on the success of the season, but if Dorsey keeps putting up 30-40 points on a regular basis, continues to supplement Allen w/ a consistent & explosive run game, and gets Buffalo to a SB then he’s as good as gone next year. I feel like he completely outclassed McDaniels today and that’s a nice notch on his resume. He’s done what Daboll couldn’t do and that’s make Buffalo a multi-dimensional offense. I really hope Dorsey is in contention for head coaching positions. This would mean that the Bills offense was strong all season long - these are good problems to have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: The ultimate issue is the buck stops with him as head coach in these hypothetical next steps and if he can’t see the glaring problem with his offense in that game it would also be a strike against him as the leader of the unit. he is still the voice in Josh’s helmet and the guy managing Joe Brady I think the ultimate issue is actually that there will be 8 or so HC openings..........that's the norm........so he doesn't have to be the perfect candidate. Nobody thought Daboll was going to get a HC job late in the 2021 season after a series of abysmal performances by him in the middle of that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: It’s amazing how much the board sways We go from wanting to fire him to wondering if we’re gonna be able to keep them Don’t lump me into this group. I never wanted to fire him 3 hours ago, Since1981 said: There’s a point to keeping your QB1 and W1 happy with familiar and competent HC/OC. a revolving door for Offense staff is a recipe for losing personnel. Funny how the Dorsey opinions changed. I seriously haven’t seen anything special, creative from him (aside from winning;) Sometimes you don’t really have a say whether a guy takes another job. Nothing special? How long have we been waiting for a run game ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, PayDaBill$ said: Weren’t we firing him a few weeks back?😉 One week it's "we've got to fire this guy" and the next week it's "we're going to lose him when he gets a head coaching job" Either way it's not looking good for Ken to be back next season. 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, PayDaBill$ said: Weren’t we firing him a few weeks back?😉 Logical folks weren’t calling to fire him. We were rightfully concerned after some very questionable play calls. 2 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: One week it's "we've got to fire this guy" and the next week it's "we're going to lose him when he gets a head coaching job" Either way it's not looking good for Ken to be back next season. 😀 I am one of the more optimistic ones on this board. You are thinking of someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think the ultimate issue is actually that there will be 8 or so HC openings..........that's the norm........so he doesn't have to be the perfect candidate. Nobody thought Daboll was going to get a HC job late in the 2021 season after a series of abysmal performances by him in the middle of that season. a totally fair assessment overall - but would not point to the debacle on national tv as a successful game for him. Likewise wouldn’t say it’s a dealbreaker but it’s not one he’s going to be hanging on the fridge with a gold star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 When he first took the job I predicted that he would become a head coach within 2-3 seasons. I stand by that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 The last 15 months have been “fire Dorsey” Now “holy shirt, we might lose Dorsey”. What a wild ride this team is. Glad I’m here for it! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: I could see a team like the Chargers giving him an interview if Staley gets his walking papers. If they like what Allen/Bills Offense does they could want to mimic that for Herbert. Chargers could promote their water boy and he would probably have more success. Dorsey should be on their Xmas list this year. They need someone who can properly harness Herbert’s physical talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: a totally fair assessment overall - but would not point to the debacle on national tv as a successful game for him. Likewise wouldn’t say it’s a dealbreaker but it’s not one he’s going to be hanging on the fridge with a gold star True. And if Daboll can still get a job after that 6 point debacle against the winless Jags..........I think a team can squint at Dorsey's job on MNF on 9/11 and consider that Reid and Mahomes also struggled there in a less hostile environment a few weeks later.........and basically put no weight on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Allen is getting dudes paid out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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