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3rd Preseason Postgame Reaction Thread - Bills vs Bears -Are the Bills the best team in the league??


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46 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

Just had a look at the Bears forum to see if there was anything interesting. Page 2 of their gameday thread:

 

Is Edmonds already hurt? Haven’t seen him since he got his pants juked off by the RB on what should’ve been a loss.

 

 

I still cannot believe they gave him that contract. The Bills may have a big problem at MLB this season but giving Edmunds that kind of money would have been an even bigger mistake.

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I still cannot believe they gave him that contract. The Bills may have a big problem at MLB this season but giving Edmunds that kind of money would have been an even bigger mistake.


Nah, we just gave it to Oliver. 😭

 

Sorry, it was an easy shot.  
 

The RT and MLB has been talked to death so we’ll find out soon what McD’s going to do.

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47 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Man the Bills don’t play a game now for half a month plenty of time to convince Kyle that a broadcasting career calling high school football could be the start of something big. 

Good God, this place is going to be intolerable.  We're picking #1 overall.  I...I can just feel it...

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1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

The Bills are really really good but they have a few question marks like everyone else.

Definitely encouraged by a few things but let’s face it Kyle Allen would be hosting a weekend show on Sirius XM college sports if he wasn’t Josh’s golf caddy.

That and MLB depth are really the only things I’m worried about.

Kyle Allen is not a question mark. He's abysmal. 

11 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Man did Isabella go out with a wimper in crunch time, maybe quiet enough for the PS.  

Not enough to even sneak on the PS.  He's done

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1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said:

Just had a look at the Bears forum to see if there was anything interesting. Page 2 of their gameday thread:

 

Is Edmonds already hurt? Haven’t seen him since he got his pants juked off by the RB on what should’ve been a loss.

 

I did even know he played today...  lol

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27 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Surprised Coach McDermott passed on play calling today.

 

One more pre-season game was a good opportunity to find that balance between Head Coach and D-Coordinator.

 

🤷‍♂️.

 

28 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Surprised Coach McDermott passed on play calling today.

 

One more pre-season game was a good opportunity to find that balance between Head Coach and D-Coordinator.

 

🤷‍♂️.

I think he’s got that down. Way too much being made of this. Certainly not the first head coach to call plays!

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1 hour ago, BillzFreak said:

Better call up Beane and let him know, I'm sure if you let him know it's newcam20212 he will take the call right away.

No need for me to call him. He knows he has a huge weakness at MLB. 

 

He's on the phone right now trying to upgrade the position. He just told me he's inquiring to see if Cornelius Bennett is available on the cheap due to cap space. 

57 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


Slow your roll their Cochise.  Just like the sky wasn’t falling last week, this week, we’re not a lock for the SB.  It’s a long year, and yes, they looked sharp today.

 

Ive been cautiously optimistic about this 2023 team stronger than 2022, but again we haven’t played a snap.

Although it's a long season, the Jets opener should give us a nice measuring stick. 

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They absolutely saw how hyped Pittsburgh was and figured out that’s what we’re going to see every dam week.  
 

We better match and exceed that energy. 
 

 

Loved all the guys running out to greet Evans after the TD.  

 

Motivation, intensity, and hunger.  We need that every game bc we’re the hunted now.  They think we’re finished and our window is closed. 
 

One thing we have over all the latest ESPN darlings of the offseason is this team has been thru it ALL and came up together.  
 

Not a bunch of mercenaries looking to get tax free pay checks and beach time.  Or a pampered QB that demanded every Green Bay buddy followed him.   

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16 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

No need for me to call him. He knows he has a huge weakness at MLB. 

 

He's on the phone right now trying to upgrade the position. He just told me he's inquiring to see if Cornelius Bennett is available on the cheap due to cap space. 

Although it's a long season, the Jets opener should give us a nice measuring stick. 


I’ll get behind that comment.  I’m leaning towards the Bills, not because I’m a homer, but I’m guessing the Jets offense won’t be humming right away, and our defense and offense comes together in this game.  The Jets will make every point count.  I see a low scoring game where we win 20-17.

 

I wouldn’t be talking down the Bills after that game as the Jets have a punishing defense.  Later in the year, even though it will be in OP, I can see an even tougher game at home.

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2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Definitely encouraged by a few things but let’s face it Kyle Allen would be hosting a weekend show on Sirius XM college sports if he wasn’t Josh’s golf caddy.

That and MLB depth are really the only things I’m worried about.

He looked like... a backup QB. Let's just say we want JA17 to be the incarnation of great health all year long. But don't expect backup QBs to all be the level of "Tom Brady replacing Drew Bledsoe"...

2 hours ago, NickelCity said:

My biggest positive was seeing quick decisions by Josh with some actual routes available (Dorsey presumably) that lend themself to such an approach. Hope it's the start of a trend. 

Yes I credited Dorsey and I loved what I was seeing. Even Diggs doing underneath routes. Talk about defenses not knowing what will come at them next! Quick passes, sweeps, runs... they can wear and demoralize defenses, while keeping some big plays anytime they want - just use more protection then. I hope that first drive is the style that remains. OLine will look much better too, as these quick plays help them, as an OC should do. That's what the Bengals did.

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5 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

He looked like... a backup QB. Let's just say we want JA17 to be the incarnation of great health all year long. But don't expect backup QBs to all be the level of "Tom Brady replacing Drew Bledsoe"...

Yes I credited Dorsey and I loved what I was seeing. Even Diggs doing underneath routes. Talk about defenses not knowing what will come at them next! Quick passes, sweeps, runs... they can wear and demoralize defenses, while keeping some big plays anytime they want - just use more protection then. I hope that first drive is the style that remains. OLine will look much better too, as these quick plays help them, as an OC should do. That's what the Bengals did.

This is how they played the patriots in that playoffs game.  The sink-and-dunk helped making the perfect game 

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Just now, newcam2012 said:

What I liked is Allen hitting the quick short passes. Something we didn't see enough of last year. Mixing up the passing game will make this offense lethal. 

I think Allen sometimes likes to hold on to the ball and see what will develop when there are times he has 1-2 guys open underneath early.

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4 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

I think Allen sometimes likes to hold on to the ball and see what will develop when there are times he has 1-2 guys open underneath early.

 

That happens when you can make any throw on the field.

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4 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

I think Allen sometimes likes to hold on to the ball and see what will develop when there are times he has 1-2 guys open underneath early.

So you are saying he isn't captain checkdown, and somehow this is a problem. 

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Just now, Chaos said:

So you are saying he isn't captain checkdown, and somehow this is a problem. 

No one is asking Allen to ignore his super powers or to stop the daring that can result in extraordinary plays. None of that contradicts the fact that the Bills are a much more lethal offense when they take advantage of the easy, available yards. If you are always going for the long ball, you become much more predictable, whilst relying on lower percentage plays. Surely, this is obvious. 

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2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Josh and the offense played lights out.

 

The defense was aggressive and made stops.

 

McDermott can obviously handle the dual roles. 

 

This team is definitely going to the Super Bowl.

 

Wow, what a time to be alive!

Brandon Beane said on the telecast that McDermott gave up the defensive play calling for this game. I don't mean to rain on your sarcastic parade

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32 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

No one is asking Allen to ignore his super powers or to stop the daring that can result in extraordinary plays. None of that contradicts the fact that the Bills are a much more lethal offense when they take advantage of the easy, available yards. If you are always going for the long ball, you become much more predictable, whilst relying on lower percentage plays. Surely, this is obvious. 

The Bills punted and turnver the ball over combined in 2022 less than anyone.  Allen runs the most effective non-redzone offense in the league by a considerable margin.  Thier is zero room for productivity outside the redzone.  Already the best, and this theoretical underneath stuff you are talking about, doesn't exist in the red zone.  please provide a video of Allen passing up an open underneath reciever in the redzone in 2022.  There simply weren't open recievers there. Nothing for Allen to ignore.  Rambling on with cliches like "balanced offense" or "take what the give you" is just blather. Sorry to be be so straight foward.  But Allen is the best. And it is so stupid to try to change the things that work.  

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5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

The Bills punted and turnver the ball over combined in 2022.  Allen runs the most effective non-redzone offense in the league by a considerable margin.  Thier is zero room for productivity outside the redzone.  Already the best, and this theoretical underneath stuff you are talking about, doesn't exist in the red zone.  please provide a video of Allen passing up an open underneath reciever in the redzone in 2022.  There simply weren't open recievers there. Nothing for Allen to ignore.  Rambling on with cliches like "balanced offense" or "take what the give you" is just blather. Sorry to be be so straight foward.  But Allen is the best. And it is so stupid to try to change the things that work.  

I dunno, maybe you're talking into your phone. First sentence needs a missing number. I infer turned for turnver. There, not thier, receiver, not reciever. Sloppy grammar and spelling does not obviate a point, but it is distracting and bad form. Naturally, RZ issues are a different matter. One can only hope that a strengthened IOL, some power RBs, and 12 personnel will propel Dorsey to be more creative in the tight spaces and yield better results. The flow of an offense is more than yards gained. I maintain that you put a defense back on its heels when you are both potent and less predictable. That may, indeed, actually affect RZ efficiency. You are free to think otherwise.

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15 minutes ago, Chaos said:

The Bills punted and turnver the ball over combined in 2022 less than anyone.  Allen runs the most effective non-redzone offense in the league by a considerable margin.  Thier is zero room for productivity outside the redzone.  Already the best, and this theoretical underneath stuff you are talking about, doesn't exist in the red zone.  please provide a video of Allen passing up an open underneath reciever in the redzone in 2022.  There simply weren't open recievers there. Nothing for Allen to ignore.  Rambling on with cliches like "balanced offense" or "take what the give you" is just blather. Sorry to be be so straight foward.  But Allen is the best. And it is so stupid to try to change the things that work.  

Very well put

 

His reads under Dorsey are deep to shallow, it's a function of the offense and not a bug 

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