CBS 2023 QB Power Rankings

[BarleyNY]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-qb-power-rankings-lamar-jackson-aaron-rodgers-both-crack-top-10-in-first-rundown-of-all-32-starters/

 

I can certainly quibble with some of the rankings, but that isn’t what was so surprising. What really shocks me is not how bad that list gets, but how quickly it gets so bad.

 

Analytics sites often stress the importance of having a top 8 QB in the league - or even a QB capable of being in the top 8 some years. That list very vividly illustrates why that is. I’m not sure there are more than 8 QBs in this league I’d want. It also shows you why Baltimore paid what they did for Lamar and why even the Geno Smiths and Daniel Joneses of the league get paid so well. Yikes. 

 

Note: Yes, I’m ecstatic that we are lucky enough to have one of those top QBs. 

[goober]

Just happy to see Mac ranked 29th

[Goin Breakdown]

But  is Hurts really better than Allen or is it recency bias?  

[Roundybout]

Purdy seems way too high. I know he had a great season, but putting him above people like Tua or Daniel Jones seems eh. 

[KDIGGZ]

Hurts is a more athletic Tua but on a better team

[Success]

18 minutes ago, goober said:

Just happy to see Mac ranked 29th

 

Yeah - but if you listen to Pats fans, hiring O'Brien will turn Mac into the next Brady.  And Mac had a better 1st 2 years than Josh Allen!

 

[Bangarang]

Josh is easily top 3. Hurts is good but I don’t think he’s nearly as good of a passer as Josh. 

[ToGoGo]

33 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

But  is Hurts really better than Allen or is it recency bias?  

 

Hurts is not better than Allen. 

[dorquemada]

33 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

But  is Hurts really better than Allen or is it recency bias?  

 

It's recency bias.  If Hurts' college career is any indication (and I have no idea if it is or not!) he'll hit a wall and all of a sudden seem pretty mediocre.  Maybe Miami can trade Tua to the Eagles lol

[The 9 Isles]

The thing about this list is that they should take into account the ability of QBs to play in any system. 
 

If Josh plays on any top five team they will all preform the same and probably better with Josh at the helm. I don’t think any one of them could do the same in Buffalo. 
 

Thus, Josh is Numbero Uno. 🎯

[B-Large]

I'd be reluctant to put a 1 year QB that high, but he's the darling, and so that what you get.

 

Allen needs a ring.  Lets get him a ring.

3 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said:

The thing about this list is that they should take into account the ability of QBs to play in any system. 
 

If Josh plays on any top five team they will all preform the same and probably better with Josh at the helm. I don’t think any one of them could do the same in Buffalo. 
 

Thus, Josh is Numbero Uno. 🎯

 

Josh with Andy Reid his whole career is two rings deep right now, I have no doubt.  

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, goober said:

Just happy to see Mac ranked 29th

seems high

[folz]

In my opinion, Josh is still #2 behind Mahomes. With a healthy elbow and better weapons, I think that will become clear to most as the season wears on. Otherwise, can't really argue much with their top 8.

 

A QB to watch is the Steelers' Kenny Pickett. I liked what I saw from him last year and wouldn't be surprised to see him make a decent move up that list this season.

 

[1ManRaid]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

Purdy seems way too high. I know he had a great season, but putting him above people like Tua or Daniel Jones seems eh. 

 

It's been said that my grandma could throw for 200 yards per game in their extremely QB-friendly offense.  Even McCorkle could pull some wins there.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I like Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones both to have big years. 

 

Lawrence is going into his third year which has recently been a big breakout year for QB's. Jones improved across the board last year and I think will continue to do so under Daboll. 

 

Hurts plays with one of the best offensive supporting cast in all of football, if not the best, so I would expect him to put up great numbers again. It would be concerning if he does not. 

 

We will see if the MVP goes to someone other than Mahomes this year. 

 

[The Avenger]

Tua is too low. He's really a pretty solid quarterback (and he has a great receivers) - just not sure how long he'll be able to continue to play.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Pickett is far too low. I love what I saw from Pickett last year. I'd have him around 21 ahead of all the rookie QB's and in that Carr and Garapollo mix. 

[Kmart128]

Hurts is very good but he is surrounded by a super team. Got an awesome defense, an amazing oline, and top 3 weapons in the game. You put Allen on the Eagles and you may see the best season out of a QB in NFL history

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

Yeah - but if you listen to Pats fans, hiring O'Brien will turn Mac into the next Brady.  And Mac had a better 1st 2 years than Josh Allen!

 

Stop listening to delusional Pats fans! IMO O’Brien will hopefully correct what went terribly wrong last year and hopefully a small jump from his rookie year.. (which would be a huge leap.. from 2022 lol) 

 

I think he is probably closer to 20 than 29 like this ranking has… putting QBS up that high who haven’t played a down seems silly IMO. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

21 minutes ago, folz said:

In my opinion, Josh is still #2 behind Mahomes. With a healthy elbow and better weapons, I think that will become clear to most as the season wears on. Otherwise, can't really argue much with their top 8.

 

A QB to watch is the Steelers' Kenny Pickett. I liked what I saw from him last year and wouldn't be surprised to see him make a decent move up that list this season.

 

Joe didn't take much/if any heat for that AFCCG performance. 

 

Two interceptions, and the second one was definitely an underthrow. 

 

Given multiple possessions in the 4th to take the lead and he couldn't do it. 

 

I think he's Top 3, photographic memory, lifts weights. But definitively better than Allen?

 

I'm glad to see Hebert getting his recognition, and Lawrence is on his way up and going to pass a lot of these QBs by the end of the year. 

 

The media just hangs on for dear life with Lamar and his 2019 MVP, but we haven't seen that guy in 4-years.  

[Success]

13 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Stop listening to delusional Pats fans! IMO O’Brien will hopefully correct what went terribly wrong last year and hopefully a small jump from his rookie year.. (which would be a huge leap.. from 2022 lol) 

 

I think he is probably closer to 20 than 29 like this ranking has… putting QBS up that high who haven’t played a down seems silly IMO. 

 

I'm not as down on Mac Jones as some (here & elsewhere).  I think he's a capable QB.  Not many "elite" traits, but I think he can be a solid starter.

 

Which is all Belichick needs. The Pats could surprise people this year. I don't think they will, given how tough their schedule is, but if they had a schedule like last year's I'd have them as an 11 win team this season.  As it is, the AFCE & AFC in general are pretty brutal without a top QB.

 

[JerseyBills]

44 minutes ago, folz said:

In my opinion, Josh is still #2 behind Mahomes. With a healthy elbow and better weapons, I think that will become clear to most as the season wears on. Otherwise, can't really argue much with their top 8.

 

A QB to watch is the Steelers' Kenny Pickett. I liked what I saw from him last year and wouldn't be surprised to see him make a decent move up that list this season.

 

Ya I like Pickett alot. 

The AFC is sooo loaded

[GoBills808]

Allen 4th

 

lol

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, folz said:

In my opinion, Josh is still #2 behind Mahomes. With a healthy elbow and better weapons, I think that will become clear to most as the season wears on. Otherwise, can't really argue much with their top 8.

 

A QB to watch is the Steelers' Kenny Pickett. I liked what I saw from him last year and wouldn't be surprised to see him make a decent move up that list this season.

 

My "fear" is that with such a tough schedule, even if josh played batter yet the team loses, he will not get the credit for what he does at Qb. 

[purple haze]

2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Hurts is a more athletic Tua but on a better team

Hurts is a more athletic Tua, with a stronger arm, more durable and available to play.   That kid is legit.  I think he’s better than Tua.

Edited May 5, 2023 by purple haze

[DCofNC]

It’s a Power Ranking, not a rating of who’s actually the best and with that in mind, the list is pretty damn good. I find it hard to fault until the back end of it, but their justifications are pretty solid.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

 

Hurts is not better than Allen. 

No he's not, but he's got better players and coaches around him.  

[BigDingus]

4th place is accurate.

 

There may be some rankings I disagree with, but their top 5 lines up exactly with my own. 

 

I think Allen's ceiling is as good as anyone, Mahomes included, he just has a lower floor (that we also see more often).

 

Hurts was definitely the surprise of the year for me, but he earned a top 3 spot for sure. 

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

My top 32 (ranked based on likely starter for 2023 only):

- Mahomes

- Allen

- Burrow

- Herbert

- Hurts

- Lawrence

- Lamar

- Watson

- Rodgers

- Dak

- Cousins

- Tua

- Fields

- Goff

- Geno

- Kyler

- Stafford

- Russell Wilson

- Carr

- Purdy

- Bryce Young

- Stroud

- Daniel Jones

- Jimmy G

- Pickett

- Richardson

- Tannehill

- Baker

- Love

- McCorkle

- Howell

- Ridder

[Shaw66]

4 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-qb-power-rankings-lamar-jackson-aaron-rodgers-both-crack-top-10-in-first-rundown-of-all-32-starters/

 

I can certainly quibble with some of the rankings, but that isn’t what was so surprising. What really shocks me is not how bad that list gets, but how quickly it gets so bad.

 

Analytics sites often stress the importance of having a top 8 QB in the league - or even a QB capable of being in the top 8 some years. That list very vividly illustrates why that is. I’m not sure there are more than 8 QBs in this league I’d want. It also shows you why Baltimore paid what they did for Lamar and why even the Geno Smiths and Daniel Joneses of the league get paid so well. Yikes. 

 

Note: Yes, I’m ecstatic that we are lucky enough to have one of those top QBs. 

I've often said you either have a top 10 QB or you're trying to figure out how to get one.   If you have a QB in the second 10, you're trying to figure out how to get him into the top 10, or at least how to use him to win games while you're finding his replacement.   Bottom ten is "well, SOMEONE has to play QB, and he's the guy we have."

 

QB is such a difficult position, the league is never deep at it.  

[billsbackto81]

Hurts and Burrow have more quality offensive weapons. They have better O lines, yes O lineman are weapons as well.

 

And dare I say the Bengals and Eagles have better coaching as well.

 

Mahomes and Allen are the top all around QBs regarding skillset. 

 

Passing/Accuracy/Rushing/

Evasiveness/Awareness/Toughness/Durability/Strength/Leadership/

Intelligence. 

 

They may not be the best in all traits but unlike the other QBS they uber competent in all of them.

 

Of course it's JMHO.

[frostbitmic]

I can understand Josh being 4th ranked, the three above him have all been to the Super Bowl. That ish matters to those who rank QB's.

[GETTOTHE50]

JA17 is the best QB in the league and it's not even close. He does everything he possibly can with much less than the top 3 QBs on that list.

 

Hopefully the improvements on offense pay off this year and McD and Dorsey finally develop a respectable ground game. 

[Maynard]

5 hours ago, folz said:

In my opinion, Josh is still #2 behind Mahomes. With a healthy elbow and better weapons, I think that will become clear to most as the season wears on. Otherwise, can't really argue much with their top 8.

 

A QB to watch is the Steelers' Kenny Pickett. I liked what I saw from him last year and wouldn't be surprised to see him make a decent move up that list this season.

 

Yeah, Allen is number 2. They tend to conveniently leave out the elbow issue of last year on his damn throwing arm. 

[Chaos]

7 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

But  is Hurts really better than Allen or is it recency bias?  

In terms of advancing through the playoffs, Hurts is more successful. In terms of QB talent Allen blows Hurts away. 

[Big Turk]

7 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

But  is Hurts really better than Allen or is it recency bias?  

 

Hurts is not even close to being better than Allen. He is basically a 70% Allen on his best day.

 

He was asked to do far less than Allen was just as every other QB was.

[90sBills]

1-4 sounds about right. Allen will have a chance to move up next season. 

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Hurts is not even close to being better than Allen. He is basically a 70% Allen on his best day.

 

He was asked to do far less than Allen was just as every other QB was.

Yeah this is what I think as well. Allen is as good as Allen is with what he has around him. Allen with what burrow or hurts has around them would be ridiculous. 

[loyal2dagame]

It'll be nice to have the chip put back on Allen's shoulder this season.  He went from better than or neck and neck with Mahomes to being leap frogged by less dominant players in the NFLs QB rankings all while having a similar, but not as serious,  elbow injury that wouldn't allow Purdy to even throw a ball during a game. 

Hopefully the inferno inside our guy is full blast to prove the talking heads wrong again once the season starts. 

I'm expecting scorched earth Allen to return. 

[LABILLBACKER]

Until Josh beats Burrow, he should remain 3. But you have to factor in Burrow's 2 receivers.  For now I'd put Hurts at 4.  Herbert has to prove he can win a playoff game and after 2 playoff games, Lawrence's ratingis only 72.  Rodgers is too high and Tua is too low.  Pickett is also too low.