2023 NFL draft LIVE thread

[Reks Ryan]

41 minutes ago, mykidsdad said:

Now we have two Dawson Knox’s. Yippee.

Kincaid is a better receiver.  Better hands, better routes, better RAC

[davefan66]

Just now, Billznut said:

No question their mom could beat up pretty much any other mom. No wonder they ended up NFL players. 

 

My mom can beat up your mom with one hand tied behind her back!  Unless she is a Kelce.  She could beat you up with BOTH hands tied behind her back!!!  

[78thealltimegreat]

10 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Revisit in 3 years. Hall, Woolen, nuff said. 

Apparently the entire first round wasn’t amazed by the next Gronk either what are they all thinking?  

[co_springs_billsfan]

First round is over!   Back to the DHop thread

[GunnerBill]

Like FAU for the Chiefs. Had that match in version 2.0 of my mock. Had McDonald here in v3.0 but obviously he was long gone. 

 

Think I had 6 player-team matches and 27 of the 31 first rounders. Will count up properly in the morning.

[WickedGame]

22 minutes ago, Jerboski said:

Is there a Super Bowl in there? 
 

you have a generational QB, and still getting bounced in the second round every year… but yeah keep telling me how smart they are 

Aaron Rodgers took the Packers to the playoffs 11 times. He missed the Super Bowl in 10 of the those 11 trips. 
 

Getting fed up on Beane because we haven’t won the Super Bowl with Josh yet is like getting pissed because you didn’t get laid 30 minutes after walking into the bar. 

[WyoAZBillfan]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

True but Lynch has built one team. Howie has built 3. His first team was a playoff team, his second team won a Superbowl and now he has built a 3rd team that made a Superbowl. 

So he’s the second coming of BB? I mean hard to dispute history, but what have you done lately. Marv was one of the greatest coaches in my mind, he still lost 4 straight, and I don’t mean that disrespectful. We know there’s always someone better right there waiting. 
I don’t know as much about him as you (admittedly), Bill Polian (sp?)built many great teams also. Shula always had great teams. 
picking cherries though I think, you’re probably correct in this day and age. 

[Governor]

10 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Philly D is gonna be just off the chain ridiculous.

Putting up the worst defense in SB history didn’t sit well with their coaching staff.

[Billznut]

I hope I don’t have to witness another NFL draft in Kansas City for at least 20+ more years. God that was four rough hours  

[Freddie's Dead]

Your mom threw away your best porno mag.....Busted.....

[GunnerBill]

Just now, WyoAZBillfan said:

So he’s the second coming of BB? I mean hard to dispute history, but what have you done lately. Marv was one of the greatest coaches in my mind, he still lost 4 straight, and I don’t mean that disrespectful. We know there’s always someone better right there waiting. 
I don’t know as much about him as you (admittedly), Bill Polian (sp?)built many great teams also. Shula always had great teams. 
picking cherries though I think, you’re probably correct in this day and age. 

 

I'm not saying he is the best GM ever. Just he is the best working in the league today. And one of the reasons he is the best is he rarely gets wooed by the flashy. His football teams win where it's dirty. In the trenches.

[Watkins90]

I forgot that the Dolphins lost their pick. 

[GunnerBill]

Right I'm off to bed. I'll be back with my roundup in the morning. 

[gonzo1105]

I’ll throw out a Round 2& 3 mock tomorrow at some point. Took a vacation day so I have some time tomorrow 

[WyoAZBillfan]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'm not saying he is the best GM ever. Just he is the best working in the league today. And one of the reasons he is the best is he rarely gets wooed by the flashy. His football teams win where it's dirty. In the trenches.

I get that, just took working through it in my old mind. As I said I was cherry picking and you didn’t say that, just how I read it initially.🤷🏼‍♂️😂 all good amigo

[78thealltimegreat]

Will Levis  is officially the new Brady Quinn 

[Einstein]

5 minutes ago, WickedGame said:

Aaron Rodgers took the Packers to the playoffs 11 times. He missed the Super Bowl in 10 of the those 11 trips. 

 

And the GM responsible for most of those seasons is gone.

[Richard Noggin]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

I wonder if the Chiefs would go Mayer here? Kelce can't go on forever, right?

 

I wanted the Bills to go Mayer at 27 if they had held firm...because he'd be such a perfect in-line option, allowing Knox to flex-out in dynamic 12-personnel alignments that Dorsey utilized in Carolina and the U of M...

 

Kincaid is like a more exciting and established TE prospect that maybe

challenges current alignment and offensive philosophical pathways...

[Freddie's Dead]

I taped the ESPN draft coverage and replaying it now.  Those ***** also cut to commercial when the Bills were on the clock.

[Ralonzo]

KC should have their next 1st rounder taken away for how stupid that whole pageant was for their pick.

[K-9]

4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Will Levis  is officially the new Brady Quinn 

NFL GMs don’t like flakes, especially at the QB position. 

[frostbitmic]

6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

I taped the ESPN draft coverage and replaying it now.  Those ***** also cut to commercial when the Bills were on the clock.

It has become a tradition.

[Nitro]

Kincaid will be a huge asset as a slot receiver.   The WR class at the top was not as talented as the TE class.  Great pick.

[RyanC883]

55 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

They wanted Kincaid.  They got the guy they wanted!

 

I understand that’s who they wanted, but Mayer is likely better, and did not require a trade up.  I hope I’m wrong and we got a stud, I just don’t know that Dorsey knows what to do with 1 TE, let alone 2. 

Just now, Nitro said:

Kincaid will be a huge asset as a slot receiver.   The WR class at the top was not as talented as the TE class.  Great pick.

 

if used as slot that’s a potential.  Beasley replacement?   

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Nolan Smith going 31st. The ESPN guys were thinking he could go to the Jets at 15.  Eagles front 7 will be dangerous.

[jkeerie]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

I understand that’s who they wanted, but Mayer is likely better, and did not require a trade up.  I hope I’m wrong and we got a stud, I just don’t know that Dorsey knows what to do with 1 TE, let alone 2. 

Mayer was more complete if you consider blocking...but Kincaid is the better receiver and route runner.  Plus he will be a matchup problem for defenses...much like Kelce is for the Chiefs.  I expect our offense to be more creative.  

[RyanC883]

Just now, jkeerie said:

Mayer was more complete if you consider blocking...but Kincaid is the better receiver and route runner.  Plus he will be a matchup problem for defenses...much like Kelce is for the Chiefs.  I expect our offense to be more creative.  

 

Thanks.  I hope your right about it being more creative this year. It was hard to watch the playcalling last year.  Perhaps due to personnel, but the lack of running at all and misuse of Knox concerns me.  

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Thanks.  I hope your right about it being more creative this year. It was hard to watch the playcalling last year.  Perhaps due to personnel, but the lack of running at all and misuse of Knox concerns me.  

I think last year showed how few real weapons the Bills had.  McKenzie was a liability most games.  Without an effective slot, Josh looked to go down field and behind that oline, it was problematic.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Billznut said:

Not unless we trade up. He won’t be there at 59

 

we shall see

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

13 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I think last year showed how few real weapons the Bills had.  McKenzie was a liability most games.  Without an effective slot, Josh looked to go down field and behind that oline, it was problematic.

There were guys open underneath all year and Josh refused to throw it to them. He has to get better at taking the short stuff. Hopefully having another big target underneath will help Josh.

[Billz4ever]

27 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I understand that’s who they wanted, but Mayer is likely better, and did not require a trade up.  I hope I’m wrong and we got a stud, I just don’t know that Dorsey knows what to do with 1 TE, let alone 2. 

 

if used as slot that’s a potential.  Beasley replacement?   

Listening to Beane, he's not really going to be used in a 12.

 

Beane described it more like an 11 1/2. 

 

I didn't get to see a ton of film on him but just got done watching more. This kid's hands are incredible and in the redzone, he's straight money.

[mykidsdad]

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

No- Kincaid will be better! 👍

To justify being a first rounder, he woukd need to be much much better, not just in ability but in PRODUCTION. This is not likely.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I understand that’s who they wanted, but Mayer is likely better, and did not require a trade up.  I hope I’m wrong and we got a stud, I just don’t know that Dorsey knows what to do with 1 TE, let alone 2. 

 

if used as slot that’s a potential.  Beasley replacement?   

I think what @Einstein was saying last page about 12 personnel vs nickel is a huge deal. Kincaid forces teams to play small vs that two TE set. I think Mayer is a good player but I don’t think he accomplishes what Beane was talking about there. Kincaid improves the passing game a ton but also improves the running game because of his presence forces the D’s hands. I love it. 

[UKBillFan]

4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

There were guys open underneath all year and Josh refused to throw it to them. He has to get better at taking the short stuff. Hopefully having another big target underneath will help Josh.

 

I don't think that's strictly true - he started the season doing so, then went away from it. I'm clinging on to the elbow injury being behind it, as I read somewhere that that type of injury has more impact on shorter than longer throws. The only problem is, when supposedly fully healed, he failed to get back into the mindset of taking what's given. Hopefully the break, time with Palmer etc. will help with this.

[Solomon Grundy]

5 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Nolan Smith going 31st. The ESPN guys were thinking he could go to the Jets at 15.  Eagles front 7 will be dangerous.

Philly won day 1, IMO

[Billsatlastin2018]

7 hours ago, Einstein said:

LOVE this pick.

 

Thank you for not taking some tiny WR.

100%! 👍

 

Buffalo does not, nor will it ever play the back half of the Season under climate control. So,when the wind, rain, sleet and snow are coming down, we DO NOT need a fleet of 5’9 SEC track stars that are difficult to see beside oversized Corners. We need big men, with a Kelce type profile, to move the ball.

 

The Bills got theirs! It is now up to the OC to design plays, lots of them, to take advantage of this advantage.

[WickedGame]

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

And the GM responsible for most of those seasons is gone.

Reality check: In a 15-year span, almost EVERYBODY moves on from their job. This fact literally means nothing. 

[Jerboski]

8 hours ago, WickedGame said:

Aaron Rodgers took the Packers to the playoffs 11 times. He missed the Super Bowl in 10 of the those 11 trips. 
 

Getting fed up on Beane because we haven’t won the Super Bowl with Josh yet is like getting pissed because you didn’t get laid 30 minutes after walking into the bar. 

I mean aren’t you pissed as well in the bar scenario 

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, WickedGame said:

Reality check: In a 15-year span, almost EVERYBODY moves on from their job. This fact literally means nothing. 

 

On the basis that I have followed this right and it is about the Packers.... Ted Thompson stood down for ill health. He only survived 4 years after doing so and was in a pretty bad way the final 2 years of his life. 

 

Trying to use that as any sort of indicment on Brandon Beane is out of order in any event.

9 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

And the GM responsible for most of those seasons is gone.

 

Yes. He is dead. He was terminally ill. Bad example.

[78thealltimegreat]

10 hours ago, K-9 said:

NFL GMs don’t like flakes, especially at the QB position. 

Yeh he’s a different guy