BruceVilanch Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Is this thing on?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Run it back. We can be the regular season champions again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Success said: It's only for depth....it's only for depth....it's only for depth.... That's what they all say 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: omg what a waste why didn’t we sign Orlando Brown to 8 billion dollars!??! Beane asleep again There is no cap so this was totally possible and should have happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Logic said: I don't disagree that Brown had rough stretches last season. It's clear after listening to Beane's presser that he blames the back injury and the lost offseason for much of Brown's struggles, and also said he felt like Brown was playing better down the home stretch of the season. As much as some here may want it, I did not got the impression after listening to Beane that tackle is a spot where they're going to bring in a high round draft pick or premium free agent. Premium FA, No. I had hopes of a draft pick though. 2nd round maybe. The thing is, we heard exactly the same song from Beane about Cody Ford. He was playing hurt, he had surgery off-season and didn't get in a full season of conditioning, I think we'll see that he's one of our best 5, weren't those the lyrics? Same theme slightly different words with Brown. I would love to be wrong and to see Brown make a big improvement. In some of the Bills "fluff" pieces, Brown comes across as a guy who not only doesn't grind in the film room and meetings, but who mocks out others who do (Bates). That's not a guy who is going to make the steps the Bills need from him. Edited March 21, 2023 by Beck Water 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 If they bring back Saffold, then we're doomed 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 You could do worse for depth but I still would like to see more done on the online for depth esp a vet guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Roster is basically set minus Edmunds replacement and some DL depth. Veteran pass rusher will be the next signing. I fully believe they’ll sign Jordan Phillips after the draft. Maybe they also sign another vet DT. Then that leaves MLB for the draft. Edited March 21, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said: Guys - you can do a whole helluva lot worse at swing tackle than Q. Hell, he can handle 4 of the 5 OLine spots. Be thankful that he’s being brought to camp and, if someone outplays him, he’ll garner a draft pick. You’re wasting your time trying to talk sense to these guys.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I like it. Hopefully at a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: You could do worse for depth but I still would like to see more done on the online for depth esp a vet guard. I think they will sign a veteran OG also. Probably someone that was here last year. Van Roten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Premium FA, No. I had hopes of a draft pick though. 2nd round maybe. The thing is, we heard exactly the same song from Beane about Cody Ford. He was playing hurt, he had surgery off-season and didn't get in a full season of conditioning, I think we'll see that he's one of our best 5, weren't those the lyrics? Same theme slightly different words with Brown. I would love to be wrong and to see Brown make a big improvement. In some of the Bills "fluff" pieces, Brown comes across as a guy who not only doesn't grind in the film room and meetings, but who mocks out others who do (Bates). That's not a guy who is going to make the steps the Bills need from him. Fair. I'll say this: I don't have a ton of complaints about Brandon Beane, but of the few that I do have, a key one is that he can remain committed to players he drafted or "believes in" for too long, past the point at which all available evidence has suggested that he's wrong. He seems to fall prey to "sunk cost fallacy" and to remain too willing to stick it out with players that don't deserve it. I'm not saying Spencer Brown is one of those guys, for sure. I think it's too early to say. Ironically, the one time Beane DID give up pretty quickly and trade a drafted player away, said player immediately became an All-Pro elsewhere. Unfortunately, that incident only seems to have increased Beane's willingness to stick it out with other, lesser players. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, wppete said: I like it. Hopefully at a good price. Definitely won’t be much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 BUT THE 3RD ROUND COMP PICK FORMULA!!!!! don't even know if it impacts it but I'm sure something like that will be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 This is fine. He's not ideal, but he's still above Bobby Hart and that tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think they will sign a veteran OG also. Probably someone that was here last year. Van Roten. May as well get the whole band back together … Saffold on the cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Q was okay. Veteran depth that you need to have around. I’m sure they will contine to add depth. This will probably turn into a “why aren’t we replacing Brown” thread. Then inevitably Creed Humphrey will get involved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: Q was okay. Veteran depth that you need to have around. I’m sure they will contine to add depth. This will probably turn into a “why aren’t we replacing Brown” thread. Then inevitably Creed Humphrey will get involved. It’s actually turning into a “ just be happy we are running it back because the OL was so good last year” thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadlox Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Compete with Brown? Like Kyle is competing with Josh Haha, yes Brown is ahead of Quesenberry but if Brown struggles and Quesenberry is plan B that isn’t ideal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i hate this dudes game. he gritted it out on one leg that game, but hes not good enough to be seeing an nfl field. PSquad break in case of emerg type guy I mean... ideally he doesn't play at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 He's OK-ish as a backup. My only concern is that it is becoming increasingly apparent that the Bills' front office is gearing up to go heavy on defense in the draft yet again. Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Process said: I really hope this isn't a sign of faith in Brown as a starter. Ideally he would be the one to fill the role of primary back/swing tackle and we would find a starter that isn't a complete turnstile. But if Q comes cheap then it wouldn't be bad to have both him and Brown as backups and this would be a nice signing/depth. Hopefully they still bring in someone that can at least compete and push for the starting job. Beane has shot-straight with Spencer Brown. He's their RT. This is on-brand for the Bills. Signing lower-end offensive players. I don't know that it rules out any more offensive lineman in the draft, especially OG and OT, but again at WR this off-season has been like the 2019 and 2021 and 2022 offseasons. Diggs was 2020. So it's not necessarily bad, just more of the how the Bills normally operate. To me, it does increasingly feel like the Bills are going defense in Round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Defense in round 1 so mcclappy can pretend he is good at something sounds about right to meeee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just as good a backup as any other backup lineman. Hopefully he never has to see the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I recall he had some strong play earlier in the season, but wasn't able to sustain it later on. Oh well, as a second-stringer, he's better than a lot of the bums they've fielded on the OL in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The guy definitely has heart at least Alot of heart while Josh is getting his right arm torn off. Not thrilled with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: May as well get the whole band back together … Saffold on the cheap? Maybe but my guess is Van Rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Dumpster diving for backups is one thing…but they aren’t fixing the OL that way…as evidenced by the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Just as good a backup as any other backup lineman. Hopefully he never has to see the field. I love it....nobody wants him near the field but he's a good backup? Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Alot of heart while Josh is getting his right arm torn off. Not thrilled with this. It’s tough because this is your typical swing OT. They have warts. I was hoping to draft a rookie high and have rookie and Brown be starting OT/Swing but this probably only happens now if a top OT falls to them at 27 and he’s too good to pass up. Edited March 21, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Alot of heart while Josh is getting his right arm torn off. Not thrilled with this. If that happens again following another defense-heavy draft, then there need to be some major changes in the front office during the next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Apparently finding really big guys who can block is a whole lot harder than anyone would’ve ever imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Spencer Brown's job is safe and the Bills are likely high on Doyle as well. This means the Bills will be drafting a Guard. I really hope Brown's injury was worse than what was let on, because he was really bad last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I love it....nobody wants him near the field but he's a good backup? Which is it? it’s pretty much all backup linemen aren’t that good. It’s tough enough getting good starters. It probably looks like other backup linemen are good because our D can’t get pressure on even backups despite all the resources spent on our d line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Buffalo is clueless when it comes to evaluating offensive line Talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 But how does this impact our chances of drafting Bijon Robinson? At 4 pages I thought this would already have been discussed! But really, I think Q and Doyle figure to be just fine OT depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, HaldimandBills said: Spencer Brown's job is safe and the Bills are likely high on Doyle as well. This means the Bills will be drafting a Guard. I really hope Brown's injury was worse than what was let on, because he was really bad last year. They like Ike also. They probably spend picks in the 5th-7th on OL now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) I'm skipping right to the end of the thread because I assume the previous 4 pages is everyone being super happy about this re-signing, knowing we have the final piece added to the OL... edit: LOL, like clockwork, the next post.... VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Edited March 21, 2023 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Just as good a backup as any other backup lineman. Hopefully he never has to see the field. Have you watched other teams? We played teams down multiple starting OL that did not miss a beat. Whenever we were down a gut the line crumbled. Is it a crime to want to try some new blood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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