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Would you trade the #1 pick (27 overall) for Jerry Jeudy?  

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  1. 1. If Denver would trade Jerry Jeudy for a #1 overall, but no other compansation, would you do it?

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    • #1 pick only (pick #27) - Jeudy is a better WR than can be found at #27
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    • I would trade for him, but a #2 and other considerations at most
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    • Nope, not interested in Jerry Jeudy
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2 cheeseburgers next Tuesday !

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If i’m going to give up 27 for Jeudy I’d like to get a mid round pick in return.   but if we pulled the trigger on 27 for jeudy straight up, I’d be happy about it.  

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I think the asking price from them as a first round pick   I would do that there’s no wide receiver in this draft it’s as good as JJ

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

We’d like your $5M underperforming, yet talented WR please.  
 

We’ll give you our $10M underperforming, yet talented DT. 
 

Hello? …?  I think they hung up. 

This is the point exactly

 

Jeudy failed in Denver

Oliver failed in Buffalo

 

Can Buffalo with Allen raise Juedy?

Can Denver raise Oliver?

 

How much does 5m this year cost???

 

Is Jeudy a failure because of QB?

Is Oliver a failure because of 'the rotaion'?

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The move would have to be Ed Oliver + a pick no lower than Round 2 and probably us taking on the difference of Ed Oliver's contract v. Jerry Jeudy's so that both teams cap situation stays the exact same.

 

BUT

 

I know fans are all ready to move on from Ed Oliver. But if you listened to Beane's presser yesterday, he specifically mentioned Ed and Gabe as guys he would like to keep for years to come beyond their Rookie contracts. So I don't know that he's on the same page.

 

Plus, we'd have to find a replacement for Ed on the Defensive Line. Can't go into the year with Daquan Jones and Tim Settle as our starters and nothing behind them.

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47 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

both guys are in their rookie contract.

 

Both guys have produced, but not to their draft status.

 

Both guys have a 5 year controllable contract

 

 

 

 

 

Neither have 5 years in their contacts.  

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1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The move would have to be Ed Oliver + a pick no lower than Round 2 and probably us taking on the difference of Ed Oliver's contract v. Jerry Jeudy's so that both teams cap situation stays the exact same.

 

BUT

 

I know fans are all ready to move on from Ed Oliver. But if you listened to Beane's presser yesterday, he specifically mentioned Ed and Gabe as guys he would like to keep for years to come beyond their Rookie contracts. So I don't know that he's on the same page.

 

Plus, we'd have to find a replacement for Ed on the Defensive Line. Can't go into the year with Daquan Jones and Tim Settle as our starters and nothing behind them.

Yea unfortunately. Ed has more value to the bills this year , by playing 

 

they have no freaking players on the DL. Unbelievable 

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1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said:

What do you say TBD?

I would do it in a NY Minute

 

I believe you.

 

But somehow I think Denver wouldn't.

20 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Not whipping boy, just a guy who is using up more cap space than his production so far has warranted.  

 

Just wait, the season hasn't started yet.

36 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

It's nice that Ed Oliver took the baton from Edmunds of TBD whipping boy.

 

On defense, certainly.  But who will step up on the offensive side?

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

We’d like your $5M underperforming, yet talented WR please.  
 

We’ll give you our $10M underperforming, yet talented DT. 
 

Hello? …?  I think they hung up. 

Spot on !! I think for the $5m they will want some comp. They will ask for our 2- we give them our 3? Frees up $5 m that can be used for FA LB or OT. 

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3 hours ago, Chaos said:

The goal of a number 1 draft pick is to get a five year starter playing under a rookie deal.  Not to get a player for two years who will command full market value of a FA after that.  

AND that is exactly why the Bills won’t make this trade. As they surely shouldn’t. Not for a #1. For our #2, sure. 

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2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

he is a rookie on a $10m contract this year as a rookie.

None of his salary is guaranteed.

 

Trade him or resign him for how much???

WTF? Oliver’s $10.75M 5th year option became fully guaranteed the instant the Bills picked it up. 

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5 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Both were first round picks and have 5th year options so, yes, both were controllable for 5 seasons. Oliver is on his 5th year option now. Jeudy has his next season. 

 

They were controllable for 5 years when they were drafted,  yes,  but not at this point. 

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3 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

They were controllable for 5 years when they were drafted,  yes,  but not at this point. 

Isn't that the point of the quote you are responding to? The relative lack of control in both cases is part of the equation when speculating trade value.

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I'm not too interested in Juedy. The WR I want is Dhop. The guy is elite and is a difference maker. 

 

Twitter people are saying Ariz wants a 2nd round pick and something else of value. Not sure what that means.

 

I am really hoping the Bills can pull the trigger and get Dhop. What does everyone else think? 

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As a long time member of a Broncos board.  I ASSURE you, NO ONE over there would think this was a good deal.  I GUARANTEE you guys, Ed Oliver isn't even on the radar in Denver as someone they'd even consider trading anything for let alone Jerry Juedy.  

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2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Isn't that the point of the quote you are responding to? The relative lack of control in both cases is part of the equation when speculating trade value.

 

The original post I responded to said that they were both controllable for 5 years.  And they're not.  Not anymore, and Oliver is only 1 year. So his value isn't much.  At least Jeudy is 2 years. 

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21 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

The original post I responded to said that they were both controllable for 5 years.  And they're not.  Not anymore, and Oliver is only 1 year. So his value isn't much.  At least Jeudy is 2 years. 

Well, the pull quote was from Barley which states "Both were first round picks and have 5th year options so, yes, both were controllable for 5 seasons. Oliver is on his 5th year option now. Jeudy has his next season." That flat out states that Oliver is in his last year of the five, Jeudy in his fourth. If you were referencing an earlier statement, naturally, there may be confusion on the issue, but not in the direct quote that I saw you interacting with.

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35 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

As a long time member of a Broncos board.  I ASSURE you, NO ONE over there would think this was a good deal.  I GUARANTEE you guys, Ed Oliver isn't even on the radar in Denver as someone they'd even consider trading anything for let alone Jerry Juedy.  

Exactly. Oliver is so mediocre. This premise is so dumb. End thread 

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3 minutes ago, DJB said:

Like I’ve been saying for 3 years. Oliver sucks 

Ditto. Like a record. 
 

he has one good game a year. Where he’s disruptive the whole game. 
 

chris jones is like that EVERY game! 
 

what a bust at #9 overall 

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19 minutes ago, balln said:

Exactly. Oliver is so mediocre. This premise is so dumb. End thread 

 

 

Oh, nonsense.

 

He's not mediocre. He's good. Not as good as his draft pick would have you hoping he would be, but good. He's probably one of the five or six best guys on the team. 

 

He's not consistent. That's very true, and I'd certainly like to see that change. We'd all like him to be better. But he's disruptive. A lot.

 

Replacing Ed at DT wouldn't be nearly as easy as people think. DT salaries are going up, and fast.

 

We're entering an era where DLs, including DTs, are going to start making serious money. Look at the contract Dre'Mont Jones just got.

 

If we could replace him easily, I wouldn't mind trading him now, as it's the best time economically. But he wouldn't be nearly as easy to replace as many here think. We'd be creating yet another hole in a year when we couldn't replace him. Doesn't make sense.

 

And that's on top of the fact that I don't really trust Jeudy all that much. I expect them to just draft a WR instead.

 

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I want to clarify.....when I say the Denver folks woulnd't be interested.....it's not because any of them have some strong opinion about Oliver....he's on the last year of a contract, which dimineshes trade value...and alot (but not all) think Juedy has been hindered by QB play and organizational disfunction....and he has a couple controllable years left.  

 

Oliver isn't a valuable asset to the Broncos (and their fans) considering all this.  I am sure there are a number of ALL teams fans that would be interested in Ed Oliver as a free agent at X dollars on a new contract.....but Oliver as part of a Juedy trade doesn't move the needle.  Denver would want draft picks....not an expiring contract.

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13 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Oh, nonsense.

 

He's not mediocre. He's good. Not as good as his draft pick would have you hoping he would be, but good. He's probably one of the five or six best guys on the team. 

 

 

I wonder, (1) Allen (2) Diggs (3) Morse (4) Milano (5) Poyer (6) Miller (7) Jones (8) Knox (9) Dawkins (10) Rosseau (11) Hyde (12) Bass and this is excluding Tremaine and Martin; whom demonstrably had better years than Oliver.

 

All this to say, while Oliver may not be as bad as some of us believe, he is just as equally overrated for some here. Oliver is a JAG. He is not even top 10 on the team.

 

Oliver is easily replaceable. He simply needs too many things to be perfect to perform.  $10m per year is way too much for him, no question.

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