Aaron Rodgers talking with the Jets

[C.Biscuit97]

23 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

The blame will 100% go to Woody Johnson if this blows up in their faces. It was reported in the NYC media that JD and Saleh wanted Carr but Johnson was all in for Rodgers.

I mean Carr might get you to the playoffs but not much else. I would rather go all out for a d bag like Rodgers than settle for meh. 

19 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Rodgers won 2 MVP's with Hackett as his OC.

You aren’t really giving Hackett credit for that? It’s like Barry Switzer winning SBs with the Cowboys. 

[Don Otreply]

Is it soup yet? 
 

 

 

 

 

😂

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 4/10/2023 at 6:15 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

Commish Stern vetoed trades like that - don’t like the precedent a Rodgers to the Jets for a 3rd RD pick would set.   

 

Step in Roger!!

I remember when he did the same thing when Mike Vick was on track to signing w/ the Bills 

[SCBills]

19 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I mean Carr might get you to the playoffs but not much else. I would rather go all out for a d bag like Rodgers than settle for meh. 

You aren’t really giving Hackett credit for that? It’s like Barry Switzer winning SBs with the Cowboys. 

 

I don't really like any of the options out there for the Jets tbh..

 

If they were in the NFC, Carr on that team makes them one of the top contenders.. maybe THE top contender.   In the AFC, he would simply make them a year in/year out playoff contender.

 

Rodgers could certainly give them a year or two of legitimate contention, but they are selling out to do it.  We talk about the dangers of kicking the can down the road.. the Jets are hoping for two years of Rodgers before they have to deal with multiple years of 20M+ void year dead cap hits.  

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

I don't really like any of the options out there for the Jets tbh..

 

If they were in the NFC, Carr on that team makes them one of the top contenders.. maybe THE top contender.   In the AFC, he would simply make them a year in/year out playoff contender.

 

Rodgers could certainly give them a year or two of legitimate contention, but they are selling out to do it.  We talk about the dangers of kicking the can down the road.. the Jets are hoping for two years of Rodgers before they have to deal with multiple years of 20M+ void year dead cap hits.  

For the Jests, they have just been so irrelevant and may have had the worse qb play in the league last year. So anything is an upgrade. They have a really good roster. But the longer this drags on, the better for us.

[Gregg]

The latest, per Schefter via NBC Sports Edge:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it doesn't sound like" Aaron Rodgers will be traded to the Jets before the NFL Draft.
"Green Bay seems quite content to wait until after the draft to make a trade," he said. "Both sides seem to be dug in." Jets general manager Joe Douglas said last week that Rodgers is "going to be here" amid rumors that the team will wait until the second day of the NFL Draft to make the move for Rodgers, 39. Rodgers' massive contract has proved difficult to move, and differences in compensation have come to the forefront in recent weeks. Still, the Packers are likely to deal Rodgers to New York sometime before the heat death of the universe.
 

[Gregg]

Trouble with the Giants as well.

 

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

The latest, per Schefter via NBC Sports Edge:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it doesn't sound like" Aaron Rodgers will be traded to the Jets before the NFL Draft.
"Green Bay seems quite content to wait until after the draft to make a trade," he said. "Both sides seem to be dug in." Jets general manager Joe Douglas said last week that Rodgers is "going to be here" amid rumors that the team will wait until the second day of the NFL Draft to make the move for Rodgers, 39. Rodgers' massive contract has proved difficult to move, and differences in compensation have come to the forefront in recent weeks. Still, the Packers are likely to deal Rodgers to New York sometime before the heat death of the universe.
 

That would be dumb on the Packers side though, no?  Wouldn’t they want to land draft picks from the Jets in this year’s draft?  Predicting Schefter is wrong on this one.

[Big Blitz]

18 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

That would be dumb on the Packers side though, no?  Wouldn’t they want to land draft picks from the Jets in this year’s draft?  Predicting Schefter is wrong on this one.

 

Yea they want their first round pick and the Jets seem determined to not trade it.  They’ll trade next year’s first anticipating it being a late first round pick.  
 

The Packers should absolutely tell the Jets and Rodgers to pound sand.  Call the 49ers.  

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

the 49ers dont have a 1st either. or a 2nd. So how is that gonna work lol

 

They need more leverage - the Jets don’t think they could trade him anywhere else.  
 

I’m not saying they shouldn’t trade him to the Jets but they absolutely need to get that first from them.  
 

[DCofNC]

It seems like the Packers are backed into a corner here.  Not much of a market for a 40 yr old QB that debate’s retirement every season, w a 50M contract no less.   They want him gone and want a big return from the ONLY buyer.  They would be better off seeing if they can’t squeeze a second out of the Jets this year.

[Virgil]

How are the Packers okay with getting no picks this year for Rodgers?  I don't really care what picks they get, but nothing until next year seems dumb

[Warcodered]

 

[NoSaint]

10 hours ago, Gregg said:

The latest, per Schefter via NBC Sports Edge:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it doesn't sound like" Aaron Rodgers will be traded to the Jets before the NFL Draft.
"Green Bay seems quite content to wait until after the draft to make a trade," he said. "Both sides seem to be dug in." Jets general manager Joe Douglas said last week that Rodgers is "going to be here" amid rumors that the team will wait until the second day of the NFL Draft to make the move for Rodgers, 39. Rodgers' massive contract has proved difficult to move, and differences in compensation have come to the forefront in recent weeks. Still, the Packers are likely to deal Rodgers to New York sometime before the heat death of the universe.
 

at what point can the packers claim tampering with the jets publicly declaring he will be there?

 

I know this has been a non traditional situation but at some point a rival GM can’t declare a guy under contract elsewhere will be there

38 minutes ago, Virgil said:

How are the Packers okay with getting no picks this year for Rodgers?  I don't really care what picks they get, but nothing until next year seems dumb

If they aren’t pushing chips in this year, why race to burn a year of someone’s rookie deal 

[Doc]

8 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

the 49ers dont have a 1st either. or a 2nd. So how is that gonna work lol

 

They have a 1st next year, right?

[mrags]

[nosejob]

8 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

That would be dumb on the Packers side though, no?  Wouldn’t they want to land draft picks from the Jets in this year’s draft?  Predicting Schefter is wrong on this one.

The thing is they own A  Aron. They don't have to accept anything they don't want to. They can let him sit on the couch (or dark place) and think about the 33 mil. he ain't getting.  The Jets can hold out a while longer until the draft date possibly gets the Packers to accept maybe not as much as they want.

 

By that time, other teams  will be saying ...Hey, why not us?  If the Commanders situation changes soon and they can swing it, what better way to bring that team to relevance?  He'll probably end up a 49er. How cool would that be?

 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

How are the Packers okay with getting no picks this year for Rodgers?  I don't really care what picks they get, but nothing until next year seems dumb

 

Agree.  Especially when that pick is likely to be worse than this years.  Makes no sense.

[strive_for_five_guy]

27 minutes ago, nosejob said:

The thing is they own A  Aron. They don't have to accept anything they don't want to. They can let him sit on the couch (or dark place) and think about the 33 mil. he ain't getting.  The Jets can hold out a while longer until the draft date possibly gets the Packers to accept maybe not as much as they want.

 

By that time, other teams  will be saying ...Hey, why not us?  If the Commanders situation changes soon and they can swing it, what better way to bring that team to relevance?  He'll probably end up a 49er. How cool would that be?

 

Agreed.  My point is whether it’s the Jets or someone else, if Rodgers will not play for GB in 2023, GB is better off trading him for the best offer of draft picks in the 2023 NFL draft, as opposed to the 2024 NFL draft.  I’d be shocked if any deal to trade Rodgers happens after the upcoming draft.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 4/11/2023 at 3:06 PM, Don Otreply said:

Is it soup yet? 
 

 

 

 

 

😂

20 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

For the Jests, they have just been so irrelevant and may have had the worse qb play in the league last year. So anything is an upgrade. They have a really good roster. But the longer this drags on, the better for us.

You are not taking extra curricular activities into account. 🤔

[TheFunPolice]

IMO something weird is going on with Rodgers and the trade. Maybe he is still "undecided" behind the scenes, OR the Jets have asked for a 2 year commitment and he is still pondering that, which is holding things up. 

 

At this point it shouldn't be that hard. If the trade happens AFTER the 2023 draft then one would imagine the Jets picks would be lower in each round. 

 

Best thing for both sides is a straight up trade: picks for player. Cash and carry. Done. 

 

None of this convoluted, conditional stuff that could be all over the board. 

Edited April 13, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

IMO something weird is going on with Rodgers and the trade. Maybe he is still "undecided" behind the scenes, OR the Jets have asked for a 2 year commitment and he is still pondering that, which is holding things up. 

 

At this point it shouldn't be that hard. If the trade happens AFTER the 2023 draft then one would imagine the Jets picks would be lower in each round. 

 

Best thing for both sides is a straight up trade: picks for player. Cash and carry. Done. 

 

None of this convoluted, conditional stuff that could be all over the board. 

 

The current rumors say that they had a deal, but Rodgers 90% retired comment spooked the Jets so they wanted the 2024 1st to be conditional.

[Gregg]

 

[Warcodered]

if anyone can ***** this up it's the Jets.

[Captain Hindsight]

14 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I mean, as a practical matter, not needs to happen before the draft. It will happen when the Jets are on the clock in the 2nd round 

[Gregg]

15 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I mean, as a practical matter, not needs to happen before the draft. It will happen when the Jets are on the clock in the 2nd round 

 

Draft starts two weeks from today at least the 1st Rd is two weeks from today. I would guess it gets resolved that weekend one way or another.

[Beck Water]

44 minutes ago, Malazan said:

The current rumors say that they had a deal, but Rodgers 90% retired comment spooked the Jets so they wanted the 2024 1st to be conditional.

 

I am so behind the fair on this.

On 4/12/2023 at 10:30 AM, Gregg said:

Trouble with the Giants as well.

 

 

 

Ya Hate to See It  😇

[TheFunPolice]

5 hours ago, Warcodered said:

if anyone can ***** this up it's the Jets.

 

and the Packers...

 

2 teams with slightly different issues. Jets are at least just incompetent. Packers purposely do it to themselves because there is no owner to step in and squash the nonsense. 

[aristocrat]

 

[SirAndrew]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

and the Packers...

 

2 teams with slightly different issues. Jets are at least just incompetent. Packers purposely do it to themselves because there is no owner to step in and squash the nonsense. 

That’s true, but I completely understand the Packers stance. Rodgers won’t play another down for the Packers. He isn’t part of their future under any circumstance. Why not try to get everything you want from the Jets? The Jets and Rodgers have told the entire planet that Aaron Rodgers will be a Jet long before a deal was done. Those are the two parties who look foolish if nothing happens. The Packers should hold out as long as possible. 

[Malazan]

1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

That’s true, but I completely understand the Packers stance. Rodgers won’t play another down for the Packers. He isn’t part of their future under any circumstance. Why not try to get everything you want from the Jets? The Jets and Rodgers have told the entire planet that Aaron Rodgers will be a Jet long before a deal was done. Those are the two parties who look foolish if nothing happens. The Packers should hold out as long as possible. 

 

Also, the GM and HC for the Jets *must* make the playoffs or there is a strong chance their gone ESPECIALLY if they don't land Rodgers after all of this. 

 

The Green Bay front office / HC is probably safe regardless. 

[stuvian]

The longer this goes on, the more the chance the Jets will screw it up

[Beck Water]

 

Seems appropriate

[Gregg]

I really hope this blows up in the Jets faces and MILF man is the starting QB week 1.

 

 

Wendell Ferreira on Twitter: "According to @CharlesRobinson, the #Packers asking price is a 2023 2nd and a 2024 guaranteed 1st. And they are willing to give something back in 2025 if Rodgers retires after one season. And the #Jets don't want it. (Around 36 minutes). https://t.co/aPlPv2Pxjq" / Twitter

[TheFunPolice]

IF you could get assurances from Rodgers that he would play at least 2 seasons, a 2023 2nd and a 2024 1st isn't a bad deal.

 

As quirky as he is, Rodgers is a top 3-5 QB in the NFL still, especially when he has actual WR to throw to. On that Jets team he would be dangerous. 

 

You figure the 2024 1st would be in the high 20's, low 30's if you're the Jets. That's less of a big deal, and not that far away from their 2023 2nd rounder. 

 

If healthy, Rodgers gets you deep into the playoffs for 2 years and makes the Jets a marquee attraction. One high 2nd and a low future first is not a huge price tag for that. 

Edited April 14, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Scott7975]

12 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

IF you could get assurances from Rodgers that he would play at least 2 seasons, a 2023 2nd and a 2024 1st isn't a bad deal.

 

As quirky as he is, Rodgers is a top 3-5 QB in the NFL still, especially when he has actual WR to throw to. On that Jets team he would be dangerous. 

 

You figure the 2024 1st would be in the high 20's, low 30's if you're the Jets. That's less of a big deal, and not that far away from their 2023 2nd rounder. 

 

If healthy, Rodgers gets you deep into the playoffs for 2 years and makes the Jets a marquee attraction. One high 2nd and a low future first is not a huge price tag for that. 

 

I would say if it got them to the superbowl it would have been worth it.  If all they are is a playoff team that doesnt get there then no.  Obviously you can't know this ahead of time but not winning it all with that kind of move just sets the team back even longer.  I would rather set my team back continually trying in the draft to get the guy.  At least if you get that guy you have them for a long time to keep making that attempt.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Scott7975

[Dr.Sack]

Rodgers age 40 season for a 1st will totally setup for the Packers for an another 20 years. I’d hold out for 2 1sts if I’m the Pack. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

On 4/13/2023 at 3:52 PM, Malazan said:

 

Also, the GM and HC for the Jets *must* make the playoffs or there is a strong chance their gone ESPECIALLY if they don't land Rodgers after all of this. 

 

The Green Bay front office / HC is probably safe regardless. 

 

I think the Joe Douglas deserves another year regardless of what happens. Feel he has done a solid job outside of the miss at QB but the good thing is, they are not hitching themselves to Wilson like the Patriots are doing with Mac. They've built a nice roster. He handled the Jamal Adams situation well and got great value in return. 

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I think the Joe Douglas deserves another year regardless of what happens. Feel he has done a solid job outside of the miss at QB but the good thing is, they are not hitching themselves to Wilson like the Patriots are doing with Mac. They've built a nice roster. He handled the Jamal Adams situation well and got great value in return. 

 

Mac is a fringe starter. Mac and Wilson aren't in the same stratosphere. 

 

Not making the playoffs for five years in a row isn't a stunning testament as to why a GM should keep his job. 

[purple haze]

On 4/13/2023 at 3:49 PM, SirAndrew said:

That’s true, but I completely understand the Packers stance. Rodgers won’t play another down for the Packers. He isn’t part of their future under any circumstance. Why not try to get everything you want from the Jets? The Jets and Rodgers have told the entire planet that Aaron Rodgers will be a Jet long before a deal was done. Those are the two parties who look foolish if nothing happens. The Packers should hold out as long as possible. 

The Jets need Rodgers more than the Packers need to get rid of him.   If the Jets keep bulldiddin’ when draft day rolls around some team might decide Rodgers for a year or two is worth a trade.   Then the Jets will be back in that Zach Wilson business and that business in bankrupt.