TheFunPolice Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 When McDermott called plays here and there the defense got more aggressive, at least from what I recall. IMO McDermott is a quality defensive mind, so I'm excited to see him take on the play calling and a more active role in the defense. If you're going to have a defensive coach let's play to his strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: I disagree with the HC. the first half of the year what we were doing is shorter passing. and it was working great... no one really stopped that style of play... I think the OC made mid-season adjustments that adversely affected this offense. McD is not going to throw him under the bus but I feel we all saw it. You mean because our QB injured his elbow and couldn't accurately make those throws any longer with additional strain on an injured elbow? What a coincidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 If you can't run'em up, the fill'em in! I wonder if this means McDermott's bringing in Jerrod Mayo? I think NE is running a 3-3-5 base defense, where one of the LBs is actually more a old school Strong Safety type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: When McDermott called plays here and there the defense got more aggressive, at least from what I recall. IMO McDermott is a quality defensive mind, so I'm excited to see him take on the play calling and a more active role in the defense. If you're going to have a defensive coach let's play to his strengths. Let's not kid ourselves. Andy calls all the plays on offense. McDermott needs to do the same on defense. Go back to your more aggressive style in Carolina. You gotta be willing to play man press more often to succeed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Let's not kid ourselves. Andy calls all the plays on offense. McDermott needs to do the same on defense. Go back to your more aggressive style in Carolina. You gotta be willing to play man press more often to succeed. Exactly. It's time to let the chef cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 So, it took 3 years to figure this out? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 11 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: I disagree with the HC. the first half of the year what we were doing is shorter passing. and it was working great... no one really stopped that style of play... I think the OC made mid-season adjustments that adversely affected this offense. I think you have the cause and effect exactly backwards. They didn't go away from something that was working. They've said repeatedly that defenses adjusted to what they were doing - they went away from the short game because it wasn't working. What they failed to do was adjust with other things that would work beyond the short game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Interesting interview. At least he was professional enough not to throw Leslie or other people under the bus in comparison to the Cowboys coach who blasted his former OC this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, boyst said: he's such a buffoon poser. his platitude bull#### catch phrases don't do ***** for the field. I bet you wouldn't say that to his face 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Good!!!!! Be fluid and copy the 49ers defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 This is one of the best things I've ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, PBF81 said: McD's the one that has kept Frasier on for his full 6 seasons here. It's taken him 6 seasons to figure out what he wants? On top of that he promoted Frasier to Asst. Head Coach halfway through as well. He's passing the buck to a now departed Frasier, deflecting any and all heat away from himself. It makes one wonder if he and Frasier didn't have a discussion to force Frasier to "step away from football for a year" in a completely unprecedented move, with the intent of trying to start deflecting to keep his own job, and apparently, with the decision seemingly being his (Frasier's) to return after the year is up at his pleasure. Just sayin' ... In what adult world has this ever existed? That whole scenario is crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, somnus00 said: Why not both. He's just specifically addressing defense because he was asked about it here. Yes I understand he was asked about that but it annoys me the way Beane anyway has neglected to make an elite o line. And he has whiffed on basham, and Rousseau and Oliver haven't set the world alight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, london_bills said: Yes I understand he was asked about that but it annoys me the way Beane anyway has neglected to make an elite o line. And he has whiffed on basham, and Rousseau and Oliver haven't set the world alight. I wasn't trying to be snarky. I understand your frustration. Hated the Basham pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 13 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Can't wait for McDermott's new mantra for 2023: "Bully-caliber" F**k you Calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 they don't blitz and go into turtle mode when you run into a QB with good WR's. Bend but don't break while they move down the field. If you want the first half of the two CINI games its like both teams did nothing to the game plan and just reused whatever plan they had for the first game. The Bills would have lost the first game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, CoudyBills said: In what adult world has this ever existed? That whole scenario is crazy. LOL, ... same adult world that consistently provides a never-ending string of pressers that never say much of anything or otherwise provide any definitive information, seemingly designed specifically so as to keep things as unclear, murky, and ill-defined as possible. Thanks for asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PBF81 said: LOL, ... same adult world that consistently provides a never-ending string of pressers that never say much of anything or otherwise provide any definitive information, seemingly designed specifically so as to keep things as unclear, murky, and ill-defined as possible. Thanks for asking. You're welcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I bet you wouldn't say that to his face Lol. You don't know me. I'd 100% say it to his face then kiss his cheek Plenty here have met me and will vouch me. 4 hours ago, AlfaBill said: F**k you Calibre. It needs to be "something to prove" This copycat bull#### doesn't work unless you're making girl scout cookies. It gets you some W's, that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Talk is cheap. Let's see when we take the field. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 11 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Yea. I think the choir boy/faith based players only stuff has to stop. Time to bring in some mean dudes… even if they do have a history. It’s a cult. They can’t stop. Terry will have to clean house next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Let's find out of any Bruce Smith descendants are in this draft.... Want that nasty edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 12 hours ago, HOUSE said: So, it took 3 years to figure this out? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Governor said: It’s a cult. They can’t stop. Terry will have to clean house next year. You keep posting the same ***** if you think that McDermott is going anywhere, you’re insane he’s not going to fire a winning coach This isn’t madden 14 hours ago, drummernut74 said: It's been his team and his Defense all along. Why is this some sort of revelation? His Defenses in Carolina were very nasty with a bully mentality, so why was this not the way of things from the get go?!?! The problem wasn't with Frazier, the problem rests with Sean. You have to look under the hood to "solve the problem in the engine" So I just wanna point out what you said just makes no sense You admit that McDermott has had defenses that had bully mentality yet you think that McDermitt is to blame that McDermott doesn’t have a defense that has a big bully mentality Which is it? 14 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: When McDermott called plays here and there the defense got more aggressive, at least from what I recall. IMO McDermott is a quality defensive mind, so I'm excited to see him take on the play calling and a more active role in the defense. If you're going to have a defensive coach let's play to his strengths. It’s what got him his job here in Buffalo. He was very good for the Panthers. Maybe him taking over the defense of playcalling is what we need I mean, I would get it why he would not want to do that being a head coach is about delegating authority. You’re the overseer of everything but you’ve got an offensive and defensive coordinator to manage their parts of the game and then you oversee them kind of like the dealer is overseen by the pit boss and the pit boss is over seed by the pit manager and the pit manager is over seed by then casino manager But We are in a situation where we have gotten very close for a few years now, but not been able to seal the deal. I am sure McDermott is feeling the heat a little bit of that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 What coach hasn't said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummernut74 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: You keep posting the same ***** if you think that McDermott is going anywhere, you’re insane he’s not going to fire a winning coach This isn’t madden So I just wanna point out what you said just makes no sense You admit that McDermott has had defenses that had bully mentality yet you think that McDermitt is to blame that McDermott doesn’t have a defense that has a big bully mentality Which is it? It’s what got him his job here in Buffalo. He was very good for the Panthers. Maybe him taking over the defense of playcalling is what we need I mean, I would get it why he would not want to do that being a head coach is about delegating authority. You’re the overseer of everything but you’ve got an offensive and defensive coordinator to manage their parts of the game and then you oversee them kind of like the dealer is overseen by the pit boss and the pit boss is over seed by the pit manager and the pit manager is over seed by then casino manager But We are in a situation where we have gotten very close for a few years now, but not been able to seal the deal. I am sure McDermott is feeling the heat a little bit of that. Yes ... the Coach sets the tone and structure for the whole operation. He is the "CEO" and everything is a reflection of his direction. That's why it's so maddening to me with him always saying ... we have to "trust the process" .. or "we have to learn" etc. It's why we're 6 years into his time and are spinning our wheels up to a certain point. When other teams such as Philly, with a 2nd year head coach, just build a team that goes and makes it to the Super Bowl ... or a team like the 49ers who would just kick the living crap out of us. They don't "learn" ... they just build teams that are nasty and go out and beat you in the face (with less talented QB's than we have). I think it was (either) Michael Robinson or Ladanien Tomlinson on NFL Network who said it best ... Buffalo isn't going to get there until they learn how to get out of their own way mentally. This is a reflection of McD and his brand of leadership 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: Yes ... the Coach sets the tone and structure for the whole operation. He is the "CEO" and everything is a reflection of his direction. That's why it's so maddening to me with him always saying ... we have to "trust the process" .. or "we have to learn" etc. It's why we're 6 years into his time and are spinning our wheels up to a certain point. When other teams such as Philly, with a 2nd year head coach, just build a team that goes and makes it to the Super Bowl ... or a team like the 49ers who would just kick the living crap out of us. They don't "learn" ... they just build teams that are nasty and go out and beat you in the face (with less talented QB's than we have). I think it was (either) Michael Robinson or Ladanien Tomlinson on NFL Network who said it best ... Buffalo isn't going to get there until they learn how to get out of their own way mentally. This is a reflection of McD and his brand of leadership You don’t have to trust the process. Hell you don’t even have to watch the games or come on here w these tabloid hot takes. Just take this regime off. You can come back when the team is 8-9 every year but w a solid coach with better one liners that get you pumped up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/2/2023 at 4:24 AM, Gregg said: Pitchforks and knives will be out in full force if the Bills draft any defensive player in the 1st round. Besides I am more interested in who Beane (the guy who has the final say with the draft per TP) is going to draft. I'm with you in prioritizing the offense - particularly the OL. But if they pick the Second Coming of Bruce Smith in the 1st round, I'm leaving my pitchfork in the closet. If Beane thinks he has a shot at a generational talent, he's gotta take his shot regardless of need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/2/2023 at 4:04 AM, JerseyBills said: I think it was the ucl injury. Our O will be fine , injuries aside. But I love this mentality from McD. He's evolving On 3/2/2023 at 5:37 AM, John from Riverside said: Hasn’t it been established that the UCL injury had something to do with this some thing about arm angles, and being able to short pass you guys say cause it was because of a USL that things changed. We do not know when just was good enough to throw those throws right? I mean he has a mean golf swing even though no probowl yes? Till a HC or the team DR confirms that Theory? and that is all it is, is a theory yes? nothing has been proven or confirmed yes? so yea... I want to hear from the HC, The DR or from JA himself before we come to a random dr's conclusions. On 3/2/2023 at 2:16 PM, Mark80 said: You mean because our QB injured his elbow and couldn't accurately make those throws any longer with additional strain on an injured elbow? What a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: you guys say cause it was because of a USL that things changed. We do not know when just was good enough to throw those throws right? I mean he has a mean golf swing even though no probowl yes? Till a HC or the team DR confirms that Theory? and that is all it is, is a theory yes? nothing has been proven or confirmed yes? so yea... I want to hear from the HC, The DR or from JA himself before we come to a random dr's conclusions. hind sight is 20/20 but maybe should have forced Josh to sit for 2-3 games. he will never take himself out and we lost 2 of the games with him in immediately after the injury anyways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I would love to see more disguised blitzes combined with fake blitzes and dropping extra players into coverage. Anything to break up the boring monotony that we’ve seen over the last 3-4 years. We have two great corners in TreDavious and Kaiir, we can afford to play man and to mix things up every here and there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, John from Riverside said: You keep posting the same ***** if you think that McDermott is going anywhere, you’re insane he’s not going to fire a winning coach This isn’t madden So I just wanna point out what you said just makes no sense You admit that McDermott has had defenses that had bully mentality yet you think that McDermitt is to blame that McDermott doesn’t have a defense that has a big bully mentality Which is it? It’s what got him his job here in Buffalo. He was very good for the Panthers. Maybe him taking over the defense of playcalling is what we need I mean, I would get it why he would not want to do that being a head coach is about delegating authority. You’re the overseer of everything but you’ve got an offensive and defensive coordinator to manage their parts of the game and then you oversee them kind of like the dealer is overseen by the pit boss and the pit boss is over seed by the pit manager and the pit manager is over seed by then casino manager But We are in a situation where we have gotten very close for a few years now, but not been able to seal the deal. I am sure McDermott is feeling the heat a little bit of that. Frazier was fired. That signals that we’re entering the last year for this regime. Edited March 3, 2023 by Governor 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 The defense always seemed to play much better the times McDermott took over playcalling. I would not be opposed to McDermott taking that on himself next season. He seems to understand the ebb and flow of the game better and knows when to call certain plays or when to bring pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: you guys say cause it was because of a USL that things changed. We do not know when just was good enough to throw those throws right? I mean he has a mean golf swing even though no probowl yes? Till a HC or the team DR confirms that Theory? and that is all it is, is a theory yes? nothing has been proven or confirmed yes? so yea... I want to hear from the HC, The DR or from JA himself before we come to a random dr's conclusions. I think they have too much pride to make that excuse. It's one helluva coincidence that we saw a dominant O devolve after the injury. It was night and day basically. We were still very good but prior we were the best. Diggs publicly said the o changed after week 9, the week it happened, that's probably the closest we'll come to a definitive answer. As well as Independent Dr's said that injury likely effected the short/intermediate pass game. Josh has only admitted he had to "slightly" change his throwing motion. When there's smoke there's fire. My guess is Drs told Buf that rest wouldn't heal it up for months so they just stuck with him. I believe that's why nothing was done on the offensive staff. I'm sure OBD believes we'll look closer to the 1st half on o than the second half Edited March 4, 2023 by JerseyBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, MJS said: The defense always seemed to play much better the times McDermott took over playcalling. I would not be opposed to McDermott taking that on himself next season. He seems to understand the ebb and flow of the game better and knows when to call certain plays or when to bring pressure. He’s took over playcalling once in 6 years once not saying McDermott won’t be better…. But it wasn’t a thing that happened every quarter of the season lol once in 6 years Edited March 4, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He’s took over playcalling once in 6 years once not saying McDermott won’t be better…. But it wasn’t a thing that happened every quarter of the season lol once in 6 years Yup. Everyone is always exaggerating on that. The defense wasn’t all that better either and reverted back to suck the following week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 12 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: I'm with you in prioritizing the offense - particularly the OL. But if they pick the Second Coming of Bruce Smith in the 1st round, I'm leaving my pitchfork in the closet. If Beane thinks he has a shot at a generational talent, he's gotta take his shot regardless of need. I agree....we desperately need OL then WR in that order. But knowing Seanie he'll pick Nolan (4.39) Smith and ask him to put on 40 lbs to turn him into Bruce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I agree....we desperately need OL then WR in that order. But knowing Seanie he'll pick Nolan (4.39) Smith and ask him to put on 40 lbs to turn him into Bruce. no need to disrespect the man just because he hasn't met expectations, yet. he deserves a lot of respect for bringing back a reason to watch on sunday. granted, so far, failed in the most crucial time, playoffs, but has turned the team around and made them competitive and fun to watch. who knows, may still get them over the hump? this season will be telling and although like you and most all bills fans, including myself, have lived through some disappointments but no need to disrespect his name. 17 years of basically a shitshow on sunday, to winning seasons, winning the division and playoffs. Sean McDermott is a big part of that. Edited March 4, 2023 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: He’s took over playcalling once in 6 years once not saying McDermott won’t be better…. But it wasn’t a thing that happened every quarter of the season lol once in 6 years Twice at least. And those were only the times we knew about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I want a nastier edge to our OL too. I remember Clowney roughing up Tyrod one time after the whist'e and Richie just threw him like a rag doll. I know he messed up, but I still miss that about him. You want that on both sides of the ball. Edited March 4, 2023 by GreggTX 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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