H2o Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis Quote Bills general manager Brandon Beane said he's "very confident" in Gabe Davis as the team's No. 2 receiver. Hopefully this is just GM speak and he has his eyes on other options. We actually still need at least 2 more WR's regardless of what he thinks of Davis. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I wouldn’t think he’d come out and say Davis stinks he’s not a #2 2 10 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Al Davis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, H2o said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis Hopefully this is just GM speak and he has his eyes on other options. We actually still need at least 2 more WR's regardless of what he thinks of Davis. I mean he is not going to publicly shame him...what else is he supposed to say? He has however talked a lot about getting more playmakers and guys who are great at YAC, something Davis has not been good at 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Rules committee bringing back Stickum? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, H2o said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis Hopefully this is just GM speak and he has his eyes on other options. We actually still need at least 2 more WR's regardless of what he thinks of Davis. I'll believe it when Davis contract comes up 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 What is it they say about never believing anything a GM says leading up to the draft? Beane is playing poker. He's not showing his cards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Davis is more than likely starting next year, not sure what else he can say. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Beane will draft a WR. None of us know WHEN that will happen. I know it's not the trend on this board, but I haven't given up on Gabe yet. He does need competition. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Were Gabe Davis to hit the open market this offseason, he’d be a much richer man soon. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Given Davis past production I'm willing to see how he works through this but this year will be the year to make a decision weather he will or won't be that guy . And there may be a chance that Beane gets another good WR in the draft which wouldn't hurt any way you look at it . I would think those here would be harder on Little Dirty than Davis he has gotten a extension because of the NE game they thought he could be that guy & has shown once again he's good for 1 good play a game but can't be consistently depended on like Beasley was to come up with the clutch catch when it was needed . If they would cut him that would save some money & bring in a younger guy with more upside because i think like in the Moss situation we've seen Mckenzies ceiling sure he's fast but that doesn't make him the guy . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Beane will draft a WR. None of us know WHEN that will happen. I know it's not the trend on this board, but I haven't given up on Gabe yet. He does need competition. Given up on him? No, I haven't given up on him per say. He still didn't take that step forward we were all hoping for after that big Playoff performance against KC. He still had an inexcusable number of drops in key situations. If we don't pick up any WR's in FA I would love to see us grab Zay Flowers, or Josh Downs, or Jalin Hyatt, or Jaxon Smith-Injigba in Rounds 1 or 2. Then, I would love to see us circle back and take Cedric Tillman or Xavier Hutchinson in Rounds 3 or 4. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, H2o said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis Hopefully this is just GM speak and he has his eyes on other options. We actually still need at least 2 more WR's regardless of what he thinks of Davis. It's GM speak to sell a player on a cash-strapped team with few avenues for improvement, i.e. Davis will remain WR2 because their limited resources need to be dedicated elsewhere. To your point, it's more realistic they add depth and competition in the slot than upgrade WR2. Edited February 28, 2023 by Airseven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: I wouldn’t think he’d come out and say Davis stinks he’s not a #2 "The only thing Gabe Davis and a #2 have on common is they both stink." (Actually, I think he's severely underrated on this board.) 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, H2o said: Given up on him? No, I haven't given up on him per say. He still didn't take that step forward we were all hoping for after that big Playoff performance against KC. He still had an inexcusable number of drops in key situations. If we don't pick up any WR's in FA I would love to see us grab Zay Flowers, or Josh Downs, or Jalin Hyatt, or Jaxon Smith-Injigba in Rounds 1 or 2. Then, I would love to see us circle back and take Cedric Tillman or Xavier Hutchinson in Rounds 3 or 4. There are a lot of WR4s in FA. Beane will get one there. Some guy will sign to try to rejuvenate his career. I just hope is it resembles what KC did with Juju. Then he picks one in the draft. That's how I see it going down. As for Gabe Davis, he knows exactly what he has to do to improve. We'll see if he can do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Al Davis? Mark. He's really liking his new hair cut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: There are a lot of WR4s in FA. Beane will get one there. Some guy will sign to try to rejuvenate his career. I just hope is it resembles what KC did with Juju. Then he picks one in the draft. That's how I see it going down. As for Gabe Davis, he knows exactly what he has to do to improve. We'll see if he can do it. Sound thinking get a low cost slot guy and then draft a kid in first 3 rounds to develop. As gives us long term/short term options to look at. Like Richie James, he had a career year with Giants and might be a good get or even a Olamide Zaccheaus from the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, H2o said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis Hopefully this is just GM speak and he has his eyes on other options. We actually still need at least 2 more WR's regardless of what he thinks of Davis. better be GM speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 He did double down but he also said they'd bring in competition. I am sure Davis will have to win the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 He’s not going to say, “Davis sucks, we made a mistake, he’s not the future, can’t wait to get rid of him” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I have a secret: I believe in Davis, too. There. It's out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 is that doubling down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I think he can be, and frankly, we need him to be this year. Money needs to go elsewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, H2o said: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis Hopefully this is just GM speak and he has his eyes on other options. We actually still need at least 2 more WR's regardless of what he thinks of Davis. Not sure what Beane sees? Davis has a limited skill set. He is stiff at the hips and not fluid. Thus, he is not able to create separation quickly. This limits the routes he can run. A number two WR has to have a better skill set and run more diverse effective routes. Lastly, he absolutely blows at contested catches. He was target 93 times and caught 48 balls. That's just plain terrible. The Bills need a big upgrade at the WR pistion. Edited March 1, 2023 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Obviously Beane has to say this or else the rest of the league is saying man you want a receiver in the draft better jump Buffalo. So I understand but man if he really does mean this Beane should probably get his resume’ ready 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Davis should learn how to catch a ball, not gator chomping anymore, I mean catching the right way should be taught at this level. Edited February 28, 2023 by Negan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, H2o said: Given up on him? No, I haven't given up on him per say. He still didn't take that step forward we were all hoping for after that big Playoff performance against KC. He still had an inexcusable number of drops in key situations. If we don't pick up any WR's in FA I would love to see us grab Zay Flowers, or Josh Downs, or Jalin Hyatt, or Jaxon Smith-Injigba in Rounds 1 or 2. Then, I would love to see us circle back and take Cedric Tillman or Xavier Hutchinson in Rounds 3 or 4. Davis showed us what he is last year. Frankly, he was disappointing and unreliable. His skill set is limited. He can still contribute as a number 3 or 4 WR. Imho, no way should he be the number 2 option for the Bills. 12 minutes ago, Success said: I have a secret: I believe in Davis, too. There. It's out. Hopefully not as the Bills number 2 WR. He was not good, reliable, or dependable. He has proven to be effective as a number 3 or 4 option. Hopefully, he falls back into that role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, GolfandBills said: I wouldn’t think he’d come out and say Davis stinks he’s not a #2 57 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean he is not going to publicly shame him...what else is he supposed to say? He has however talked a lot about getting more playmakers and guys who are great at YAC, something Davis has not been good at You can he has some work to do and its a competition. No handouts. Light a fire under the guy. 35 minutes ago, T master said: Given Davis past production I'm willing to see how he works through this but this year will be the year to make a decision weather he will or won't be that guy . And there may be a chance that Beane gets another good WR in the draft which wouldn't hurt any way you look at it . I would think those here would be harder on Little Dirty than Davis he has gotten a extension because of the NE game they thought he could be that guy & has shown once again he's good for 1 good play a game but can't be consistently depended on like Beasley was to come up with the clutch catch when it was needed . If they would cut him that would save some money & bring in a younger guy with more upside because i think like in the Moss situation we've seen Mckenzies ceiling sure he's fast but that doesn't make him the guy . I am hopeful about Davis still. But if you look at the facts - 47 games and only 3 100 yard games. Only 14 of them above even 50. Has 5 rec or more in only 5 games. We see the big games he has and people think he has done more than he actually has. 8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Davis showed us what he is last year. Frankly, he was disappointing and unreliable. His skill set is limited. He can still contribute as a number 3 or 4 WR. Imho, no way should he be the number 2 option for the Bills. Hopefully not as the Bills number 2 WR. He was not good, reliable, or dependable. He has proven to be effective as a number 3 or 4 option. Hopefully, he falls back into that role. He is more Tyler Boyd than Tee Higgins. We need our version of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 “Gabe Davis is our No. 2 WR; in fact it’s really a 1a and 1b situation, so we feel really good about that. That being said, if something were to (cough) happen to Gabe (cough), we would certainly be open to pursuing other options that would give us the explosive plays we need (cough).” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It wouldn't surprise me if the Bills look into a trade for Brandin Cooks. Beane mentioned a trade as an option at WR multiple times when fielding multiple questions around WR draft strategy. To be fair, he also mentioned free agency too. But I think someone like Cooks to put out there with Diggs and Davis is going to intrigue Beane, and the cost to facilitate that trade will be relatively cost friendly in terms of draft compensation. I mean look at what Cooper went for last year. They can make the numbers work as well on a deal like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I really like Gabe. But he doesn't have the fluidity or agility to run all routes. That's not something that can be coached. As such, he's a very limited #2, but a great 3/4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I'm all for drafting WR high in the draft. Someone who can take Gabe's place in year 2. But for next year Gabe's gotta be the guy. Barring a trade of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 58 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: It wouldn't surprise me if the Bills look into a trade for Brandin Cooks. Beane mentioned a trade as an option at WR multiple times when fielding multiple questions around WR draft strategy. To be fair, he also mentioned free agency too. But I think someone like Cooks to put out there with Diggs and Davis is going to intrigue Beane, and the cost to facilitate that trade will be relatively cost friendly in terms of draft compensation. I mean look at what Cooper went for last year. They can make the numbers work as well on a deal like this. I'm not a Cooks fan but the theme of your post is correct. Beane will almost certainly pick up a "value" free agent WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I wouldn't read too much into this. In the combine presser Beane also talks about the need for players who can get RAC, run after catch yards. And I wouldn't exactly call Davis a YAC guy. So expect some guys with wheels to be looked at in FA and/or the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I would say of the two McDermitt was more critical talking about how he got off to a slow start Look, Gabe Davis isn’t going anywhere. He’s a 900 yard pass catcher on a very, very cheap contract that this regime drafted. We don’t need to replace him we need to add to him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, somnus00 said: I really like Gabe. But he doesn't have the fluidity or agility to run all routes. That's not something that can be coached. As such, he's a very limited #2, but a great 3/4. Absolutely 100% correct. Not sure why others refuse to see or admit it. It's the primary reason why Gabe doesn't get separation. Not to mention he sucks at catching contested passes. The Bills coaching staff has to be able to recognize this. Edited March 1, 2023 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: It wouldn't surprise me if the Bills look into a trade for Brandin Cooks. Beane mentioned a trade as an option at WR multiple times when fielding multiple questions around WR draft strategy. To be fair, he also mentioned free agency too. But I think someone like Cooks to put out there with Diggs and Davis is going to intrigue Beane, and the cost to facilitate that trade will be relatively cost friendly in terms of draft compensation. I mean look at what Cooper went for last year. They can make the numbers work as well on a deal like this. Cooks was on my mind here lately. He probably wouldn’t cost a lot in draft compensation and is a productive player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 He's under contract for one more year so no need to slag him. But they'll absolutely look to draft his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: He's under contract for one more year so no need to slag him. But they'll absolutely look to draft his replacement. Some silly team will often him too much money next year. When is the time to trade him and get some picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 He should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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