gjv Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I think Douglas would like to sign Carr or Mayfield because they are much better QBs than Wilson, and he would not have to give up any players or draft capital. On the other hand, I think Johnson thinks Arron Rogers is the Jets missing link to go deep into the playoffs next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, GolfandBills said: So wait are we scared of Derek Carr now? Just asking so I know if I should panic or not Don't panic. The Jets are going to upgrade their QB situation. That will make them a better team and more difficult for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Carr to Jets would not be ideal. Major upgrade at QB without having to pay $50M to Rodgers and give up 2 first round picks. Carr I think helps them as a team a lot more than Rodgers does when you look at it past one year. Carr is going to be a bargain for someone being no draft picks are going to be surrendered to get him and his price tag will be palatable. And the last place I want to see him is on a team with a lock down defense and a lot of young talented offensive weapons. Carr will not have to be great for that team to be very dangerous. If he can just be solid, then Jets are going to be a real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 The Jets finished six games behind Buffalo last season. Derek Carr playing in a Nate Hackett offense isn't closing that gap. 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Carr to Jets would not be ideal. Major upgrade at QB without having to pay $50M to Rodgers and give up 2 first round picks. Carr I think helps them as a team a lot more than Rodgers does when you look at it past one year. Carr is going to be a bargain for someone being no draft picks are going to be surrendered to get him and his price tag will be palatable. And the last place I want to see him is on a team with a lock down defense and a lot of young talented offensive weapons. Carr will not have to be great for that team to be very dangerous. If he can just be solid, then Jets are going to be a real problem. Jets with Rodgers have a small Super Bowl window.. but it’s there. Jets with Derek Carr and all their picks, playoff team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: The Jets are built and ready for a quarterback. They are going to land someone. Carr to me seems like one of the better case scenarios for us Bills fans. I’m more worried about Lamar Jackson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Beat us with Zach Wilson last year. I think the Bills get a real reality check this year to what poor drafting and fa signings lead to. In my opinion, Josh Allen would beat Carr, no matter the other aspects of the teams, 90+% of the time. Josh is a leader of men, with a great arm, accuracy, and the ability to win no matter the obstacles. Carr has none of those qualities. Bring him on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: He holds almost every Raider passing record. But, he was only 63-79 as the team’s starter. It’ll be interesting to see what the Jets do. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35681056/sources-ex-raiders-qb-derek-carr-visit-jets QB records. Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Carr played on a dysfunctional Raiders team. Put him on the jets with all that talent and it makes them a playoff team. Stop with the disrespect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: Better than Wilson or Mike White Wilson yes, Im not too sure about Mike White. But if White can’t stay healthy, then the best ability is availabilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I’m rooting for him to go there Car is a coach killer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I remember when they said Russell Wilson to Broncos, should give KC a run for their money, also Chargers stacked, Oakland stacked, how did that all work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Jets with Rodgers have a small Super Bowl window.. but it’s there. Jets with Derek Carr and all their picks, playoff team. A lot worse QBs have won SBs with talented defenses and an array of weapons on offense. Jets are a legit SB contender with anyone as good as Carr or better. Obviously Rodgers gives them even better chance, by Carr would give them a longer term solution Edited February 18, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 If Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Jeff Hostetler can win SB's, then Carr could as well in the right situation. The Jets have a really good team, they're just missing solid QB play. The defense is nasty (like the Ravens and the Bucs were) and the offense is not short on weapons. Add Carr, fix the OL, and when Breece Hall gets back they make some noise in the AFC. I don't know if I would call them SB contenders, but get in the Playoffs and anything can happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 It seems like some Bills fans are getting nostalgic for the bad old days of football purgatory when every off season was a gold mine of speculation on how a "talented" Bills roster was just a QB away from the playoffs! Yea those were the days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: I remember when they said Russell Wilson to Broncos, should give KC a run for their money, also Chargers stacked, Oakland stacked, how did that all work out? I think a strong AFCE would help the Bills. It may be more challenging to win the division, but if they did then they would certainly be ready for tough playoff games. KC is a good example. Edited February 18, 2023 by vincec 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, vincec said: I think a strong AFCE would help the Bills. It may be more challenging to win the division, but if they did then they would certainly be ready for tough playoff games. KC is a good example. I am pretty sure the bills will have plenty of challenges with one of the hardest schedules in the NFL this coming year. Adding a solid quarterback to an already stacked New York team is certainly not anything we need to add to their troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Mister Defense said: In my opinion, Josh Allen would beat Carr, no matter the other aspects of the teams, 90+% of the time. Josh is a leader of men, with a great arm, accuracy, and the ability to win no matter the obstacles. Carr has none of those qualities. Bring him on. Football is a team sport. The Bills with Josh were 1-1 (50%) against the replacement level QB led Jets last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 16 hours ago, gjv said: I think Douglas would like to sign Carr or Mayfield because they are much better QBs than Wilson, and he would not have to give up any players or draft capital. On the other hand, I think Johnson thinks Arron Rogers is the Jets missing link to go deep into the playoffs next season. Woody Johnson is a Ralph Wilson type in that he meddles into things way too much. Let the football guys do football stuff and just pay them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 19 hours ago, GolfandBills said: So wait are we scared of Derek Carr now? Just asking so I know if I should panic or not Yes…because he was so good on the Raiders that they got rid of him … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 A still capable vet like Carr is perfect for the Jets. They’d be a really fun (dangerous) team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) With a capable vet like Carr they are an immediate contender AFCE “oh wait, there’s nate” Edited February 18, 2023 by Since1981 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Not worried about this at all. Bring him on. Let the Jets jam up their cap and lose all the young talent they accumulated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Airseven said: A still capable vet like Carr is perfect for the Jets. They’d be a really fun (dangerous) team. If Carr is a capable vet, the Raiders wouldn't have cut ties with him. He had Adams and Jacobs last season along with a coach who won Super Bowls as an OC and missed the playoffs. He's not doing better with Nate Hackett as his OC. Nate Hackett who bombed with Russell Wilson (a way better QB than Carr) as his QB. The Jets did nothing with the 3rd overall pick as their QB. They did nothing with the 2nd overall pick as their QB. And they're not going to fix their ineptitude with Nate Hackett and a journeyman QB. At best, Hackett/Carr is a rehash of Gase/Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 19 hours ago, Perry Turtle said: The Jets finished six games behind Buffalo last season. Derek Carr playing in a Nate Hackett offense isn't closing that gap. Some people are scared of their own shadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 NFL on ESPN on Twitter: "Derek Carr's visit with the Jets on Monday went 'really well' 👀🗽 "[The Jets] made it super personal too, they said 'We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first ballot Hall of Famer.'" — @diannaESPN https://t.co/eyBpLR8HRB" / Twitter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gregg said: NFL on ESPN on Twitter: "Derek Carr's visit with the Jets on Monday went 'really well' 👀🗽 "[The Jets] made it super personal too, they said 'We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first ballot Hall of Famer.'" — @diannaESPN https://t.co/eyBpLR8HRB" / Twitter If Carr believes that he deserves to die in New Jersey like most recent QBs have. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gregg said: NFL on ESPN on Twitter: "Derek Carr's visit with the Jets on Monday went 'really well' 👀🗽 "[The Jets] made it super personal too, they said 'We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first ballot Hall of Famer.'" — @diannaESPN https://t.co/eyBpLR8HRB" / Twitter Derek Carr in that meeting 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gregg said: NFL on ESPN on Twitter: "Derek Carr's visit with the Jets on Monday went 'really well' 👀🗽 "[The Jets] made it super personal too, they said 'We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first ballot Hall of Famer.'" — @diannaESPN https://t.co/eyBpLR8HRB" / Twitter Lolololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) "Super personal"? Who wrote that, a 12 year old? Edited February 22, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Gregg said: NFL on ESPN on Twitter: "Derek Carr's visit with the Jets on Monday went 'really well' 👀🗽 "[The Jets] made it super personal too, they said 'We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first ballot Hall of Famer.'" — @diannaESPN https://t.co/eyBpLR8HRB" / Twitter They could have kept a smidge of realism in there too though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: "Super personal"? Who wrote that, a 12 year old? Seems to be quoting the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 11:40 AM, Perry Turtle said: If Carr is a capable vet, the Raiders wouldn't have cut ties with him. He had Adams and Jacobs last season along with a coach who won Super Bowls as an OC and missed the playoffs. He's not doing better with Nate Hackett as his OC. Nate Hackett who bombed with Russell Wilson (a way better QB than Carr) as his QB. The Jets did nothing with the 3rd overall pick as their QB. They did nothing with the 2nd overall pick as their QB. And they're not going to fix their ineptitude with Nate Hackett and a journeyman QB. At best, Hackett/Carr is a rehash of Gase/Flacco. I don’t think non-Jets fans realize how awful their QB play has been. The progress from awful to mediocre is probably even greater than that from mediocre to elite. Think Bills 1997 (Todd Collins/Alex Van Pelt) to 1998 (Flutie/Rob Johnson). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Yeah but I hear Jets players like Mike White and they appreciate him and respect him. As a player and as a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Gregg said: NFL on ESPN on Twitter: "Derek Carr's visit with the Jets on Monday went 'really well' 👀🗽 "[The Jets] made it super personal too, they said 'We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first ballot Hall of Famer.'" — @diannaESPN https://t.co/eyBpLR8HRB" / Twitter Most of the rest of the thinking world was incredulous at that statement: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Carr is a choker. Sort of a high priced Fitz. Not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 No way I'd go there with Nathaniel Hackett as OC. Carr saw firsthand how bad Hackett was in Denver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Paul Andrew Esden Jr on Twitter: ".@diannaESPN spilled some tea on @GetUpESPN: - Kind of contract Derek Carr is looking for is "35M+ per year" - "Doesn't need to be the first QB to sign" a deal this offseason - "He does like New York" but will depend on how things shake out "over the next few weeks" #Jets https://t.co/XweXmElnP4" / Twitter Dov Kleiman on Twitter: "The market for free-agent QB Derek Carr is heating up. Sources say that 3 other teams recently "called and connected" with Carr in addition to the #Jets and #Saints, according to @JFowlerESPN https://t.co/2cLitEIS9X https://t.co/kLKH7DOdgY" / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gregg said: Paul Andrew Esden Jr on Twitter: ".@diannaESPN spilled some tea on @GetUpESPN: - Kind of contract Derek Carr is looking for is "35M+ per year" - "Doesn't need to be the first QB to sign" a deal this offseason - "He does like New York" but will depend on how things shake out "over the next few weeks" #Jets https://t.co/XweXmElnP4" / Twitter Dov Kleiman on Twitter: "The market for free-agent QB Derek Carr is heating up. Sources say that 3 other teams recently "called and connected" with Carr in addition to the #Jets and #Saints, according to @JFowlerESPN https://t.co/2cLitEIS9X https://t.co/kLKH7DOdgY" / Twitter Who are the other teams? Jets Saints Panthers? Houston? Rams? Bucs? Titans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 9:26 PM, uticaclub said: Carr sucks, I hope he does. Agree, the raiders were loaded on the offensive side of the ball and they still sucked. I pray Carr goes to the Jests for $35M per 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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